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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Grambler
The only way to resolve these things is to have it adjudicated by a court where the rules of evidence are in place, and arguments must be fact based.
Defamation is fraud, and fraud is one of the few matters I think validly should be taken to court.
originally posted by: neo96
The only way news organizations are going to be held accountable for their false stories if someone has the ability to sue their pants off for falsehood/lies, IMO.
Regulate them like they do firearms.
Licensing,background checks,mandatory waiting periods,certfication classes.
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Gryphon66
don't worry, it's not just you, it's all the leftovers who rail on and on about how above everyone else they are, because they aren't part of the left vs right thing, but spend all their time defending the left, and railing against the right. it's a hobby to pick out irony and be damn sure the poster knows he said something kind of dumb.
It's a smug thing. I'm certain you understand.
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
I don't see how Nunes has a case. The story was based on what Parnas said. Nunes was given opportunities to rebut those claims but he preferred to act like a child. So in the end CNN had to run the article without comments from Nunes.
Secondly, if cnn actually had this told to them, why should they be sued. Now if they were shown its false and continued to push it (like the sandman case) that seems to be different
I guess id need to see more deatils of exactly is happeneing before i make a judgement on this case; but even as spomeone who thinks nn is nothing more than a propaganda outlet, I hesitate to cheer for them being sued without all the acts.
Remember if this works for cnn, next it will be any small conservatove outlets getting sued for wrong stories
(CNN) A lawyer for an indicted associate of Rudy Giuliani tells CNN that his client is willing to tell Congress about meetings the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee had in Vienna last year with a former Ukrainian prosecutor to discuss digging up dirt on Joe Biden.
The attorney, Joseph A. Bondy, represents Lev Parnas, the recently indicted Soviet-born American who worked with Giuliani to push claims of Democratic corruption in Ukraine. Bondy said that Parnas was told directly by the former Ukrainian official that he met last year in Vienna with Rep. Devin Nunes.
"Mr. Parnas learned from former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin that Nunes had met with Shokin in Vienna last December," said Bondy
In the Capitol on Nov. 14, as CNN began to ask a question about the trip to Vienna, Nunes interjected and said, "I don't talk to you in this lifetime or the next lifetime." "At any time," Nunes added. "On any question." Asked again on Thursday about his travel to Vienna and his interactions with Shokin and Parnas, Nunes gave a similar response. "To be perfectly clear, I don't acknowledge any questions from you in this lifetime or the next lifetime," Nunes said while leaving the impeachment hearing. "I don't acknowledge any question from you ever." CNN was unable to reach Shokin for comment.
originally posted by: Gothmog
originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: 727Sky
Shame no one can level the playing field and file against the fake news that comes from the White House and the tweeter in chief , I guess different standards apply between free press "fake news" and officially sanctioned "fake news".
Don't you concern yourself one little bit on that.
Trump is not your President.
Do you follow Don on Twitter ?
If so , why ?
If not , how do you draw those conclusions ?
Now that is out of the way , and back on topic , how do you feel about Nunes going after CNN ?
originally posted by: GrandSchemeOfThings
The big thing that the right wing conspiracy nut jobs miss is that the "Ukraine Meddling Theory" came directly from Putin himself. Every time Trump repeats it he is helping Putins agenda. Every time Nunes says it, same thing. The only question is are they furthering that agenda knowingly or just cause that's their only "defense."
Don't you realize that just the story itself destroys lives and declaring one's innocence simply drives the fake story further into the news cycle, further destroying the life of the person who was lied about. But destroying conservatives is what the liberal agenda loves to do and thinks is helping the cause of liberalism and gets votes for the Democratic Party.