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They made a fool of themselves
originally posted by: proximo
originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: proximo
You people? I guess it's you against all the rest of us huh? Persecution complex it seems. "You people". Humph.
No, it's about half the country, and more people are wising up all the time.
originally posted by: Willtell
They made a fool of themselves
Its only natural since they are fools defending a bigger fool!
Basically, can Republicans keep their constituents and lawmakers from turning against Trump based on emotions and false beliefs? I'm betting so.
nothing ive seen even remotely implicates pence (or even trump really) but hey its the only chance the dems have for 2020 as the dem 2020 crew keep getting hammered by various groups and people
At the end of last week, Pence’s name surfaced in the impeachment inquiry, and he was not being cooperative with documents requested by House Democrats. What did Pence know and when? And what did he do? If the Democrats in the House can find an impeachable error by Pence and figure out a way to take out both Trump and Pence, Nancy Pelosi, as speaker, is third in line to the presidency. If Pence were impeached and removed with no one in the vice president’s position, the speaker of the House moves up. President Nancy Pelosi! How many Republicans want to see that happen? None. So the Republicans will try and keep a damaged Trump or Pence in place at almost any cost, including control of the Senate. Adding Pence to the impeachment process weakens the Trump-Pence ticket now, and Pence in the future. You will hear more linkage of the two names. There will be all kinds of new chess moves before we get to the 2020 election, so prepare for a bumpy ride.
so with in a week a 10% change by independents against supporting impeachment
"Voter opposition to the impeachment inquiry is at its highest point since Morning Consult and POLITICO began tracking the issue," said Tyler Sinclair, Morning Consult's vice president. "A key driver for this shift appears to be independents. Today, 47 percent of independents oppose the impeachment inquiry, compared to 37 percent who said the same one week ago."
so seems the independents that lean trump will stay that way and kind of goes to support the "silent majority" narritave where not all trump supporters are open about it and vote with out being "outward supporters of him" and that is what dems should fear in 2020 as it could very well be a repeat of 2016
But the truth is independents are not nearly as "neutral" as we think. In our research, we found that roughly two-thirds of self-declared independents are partisan. To put it simply, they have strong political leanings that they don't immediately reveal to pollsters. And they are therefore less likely to close political divides than we might otherwise assume. Once this reality is factored into the analysis of the electorate, the picture changes dramatically. According to the ANES, of the 38% of voters who initially said they were independent in 2016, just over one-third (34%) leaned Democratic and 38% leaned Republican. Democratic-leaning independents voted overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton (92%), while Republican-leaning independents voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump (91%). As is often the case in voting, only about a third of independents are truly independent.
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask
I see you've officially been absorbed into the ATS hivemind. Congrats. 😂
originally posted by: Stormdancer777
want to repeat that OP?