Supreme Court sides with Trump on taxes...more winning

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Scepticaldem

You have no idea what I do, I don't "mow lawns" and you thinking that shows just how clueless toy are. Those houses you see being built in your town? How do you think their yards get set up? By magic? 🤣

You are having a problem using proper words.

No, I know it isnt magic.

As I plan the electrical design for those houses you speak of, I work with the general contractor to make sure the other trades can get their work done too.

As far as landscaping is concerned, it is the last thing we think of. And as I mentioned earlier, we talk to the owner of landscaping company. not the guy installing sod....

Lolz🤪

a reply to: Scepticaldem

And what does the owner do? Sign some paperwork and do estimates. Woo! Such hard labor moving that pen around! But that's America for you, the guys who do the least amount of actual work get the lion's share while those holding them up get the scraps.

You don't know anything about hard work obviously, seeing as you are downplaying an obviously physically and mentally demanding job as "mowing grass" and "laying sod". I don't just "lay sod", there's much more to it than that, but I wouldn't expect you to- know that. You're just showing your ignorance more and more with every reply.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Yeah, "pick yourself up by the bootstraps" right? I do work hard, you sitting here assuming you know what me or my friends do is ignorant at best and stupid at worst.

I work in landscaping, have you ever done that before? It's hard work and takes a toll on your body. What do you do? Sit at a desk?

You appear to have plenty of time to sit on a forum and post. Like I said....do something different. Hard work doesn't necessarily equate to higher pay.

And no landscaping but I start a home renovation company doing all my own demo and work. I still do it on the side for fun because it makes me feel good. My main business requires a lot more thinking and getting to know people.

Don't blame anyone but yourself for the position you are in....

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Scepticaldem

And what does the owner do? Sign some paperwork and do estimates. Woo! Such hard labor moving that pen around! But that's America for you, the guys who do the least amount of actual work get the lion's share while those holding them up get the scraps.

You don't know anything about hard work obviously, seeing as you are downplaying an obviously physically and mentally demanding job as "mowing grass" and "laying sod". I don't just "lay sod", there's much more to it than that, but I wouldn't expect you to- know that. You're just showing your ignorance more and more with every reply.

Maybe, just maybe you could start your OWN landscaping company. Then you could be the big man.

Your anger at the system is nothing more than the reflection of your choices. Starting a company is very simple to do. It's how you run it that counts. So you, as the worker, may not have the smarts to run the company, but without the one that runs it, you would not be employed.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

I'm doing fine financially, I have no issue paying my bills. I'm happy with the position I'm in, not sure why you assume I'm unhappy. All I said is that I'm not doing much better financially than I was 5 years ago. That doesn't mean I'm miserable or struggling.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Vasa Croe

I'm doing fine financially, I have no issue paying my bills. I'm happy with the position I'm in, not sure why you assume I'm unhappy. All I said is that I'm not doing much better financially than I was 5 years ago. That doesn't mean I'm miserable or struggling.

So you're arguing for all those small folks that don't have a voice?

a reply to: Vasa Croe

I plan on it, still saving up to account for the overhead.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Scepticaldem

And what does the owner do?

Holds 100% of the risk. If the company goes heels to Jesus you walk away and find another job, possibly doing the same work, possibly for a slightly higher pay. The owner, meanwhile, watches his business assets liquidated to pay the various bills accrued through necessary business and equipment costs and will almost certainly see his personal assets raided by the bankruptcy courts as well.

This is simple microeconomics, not rocket science.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Vasa Croe

I'm doing fine financially, I have no issue paying my bills. I'm happy with the position I'm in, not sure why you assume I'm unhappy. All I said is that I'm not doing much better financially than I was 5 years ago. That doesn't mean I'm miserable or struggling.

Your entire argument was that you are not doing fine and neither are your sod laying friends.

Isnt that why you are here arguing about Trumps policies?

So we told you to "pull yourself up by your bootstraps " and now we got through to you!!!!!!!

Lolz🤪

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Scepticaldem

And what does the owner do?

Holds 100% of the risk. If the company goes heels to Jesus you walk away and find another job, possibly doing the same work, possibly for a slightly higher pay. The owner, meanwhile, watches his business assets liquidated to pay the various bills accrued through necessary business and equipment costs and will almost certainly see his personal assets raided by the bankruptcy courts as well.

This is simple microeconomics, not rocket science.

I think this point is lost on so many people that think the way he does. The easiest way for them to see is to start a company and the rather quick understanding of how much easier it is to just work for someone becomes very obvious.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

There's risk in anything anyone does. I take the risk of being out of work for weeks or months if the boss screws up, I'm not guaranteed a job if my current one shuts down so I'm not sure why you're acting like I can just easily get another job on the spot.

My boss went from the IT field to landscaping, he knows jack # about it and relies on me and other supervisors to handle the specifics of the actual work, he literally just signs the paperwork and does estimates then takes a vacation once every few months. He's got it easy compared to me and my coworkers.

We're talking about working hard not riding the backs of others. I'm a hard worker whereas my boss is not, yet he owns a million dollar home on the lake and is in the process of a million dollar renovation to his million dollar home, yet I barely see him other than him stopping by the job site every now and then and saying "looking good". But that's the American dream for you.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

You think Trump is causing division? He reached his hand out and the snakes bit it.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

If it is so easy then start your own and live the high life.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Let me build up my money and maybe I will, but I'll be there with my employees working with them unlike many bosses these days.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: burdman30ott6

There's risk in anything anyone does. I take the risk of being out of work for weeks or months if the boss screws up, I'm not guaranteed a job if my current one shuts down so I'm not sure why you're acting like I can just easily get another job on the spot.

My boss went from the IT field to landscaping, he knows jack # about it and relies on me and other supervisors to handle the specifics of the actual work, he literally just signs the paperwork and does estimates then takes a vacation once every few months. He's got it easy compared to me and my coworkers.

We're talking about working hard not riding the backs of others, even if that is what the American dream has turned into. I'm a hard worker whereas my boss is not, yet he owns a million dollar home in the lake and is in the process of a million dollar renovation to his million dollar home.

So you want what he has without earning it?

That is socialism brah!

Vote for Bernie!

Lolz🤪

a reply to: Scepticaldem

Your strawman-fu is strong. Nowhere in that post did you see me say anything even close to what you claim I said. But when you have no argument just put words in people's mouths, right?

That's a pretty pathetic and transparent strategy you've got going there bud. 👎

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

So your boss sounds like a smart, successful man. I can see why you work for him rather than the reverse.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Let me build up my money and maybe I will, but I'll be there with my employees working with them unlike many bosses these days.

Sure...if you keep the company very small you can be right there with them, but if you have more than 2 or 3 crews then you'll find yourself at a desk more often than not. I have a couple of friends that own very successful landscaping companies. They mostly are stuck with doing the planning and drawings now....and paperwork and contracts and whatever else.

Now if you just want to stick with a single crew doing residential stuff then you can likely work with them all the time you want.

Back on kinda topic though....your taxes and getting them the paperwork for theirs is going to be MUCH more painful than just doing your own. That is as long as it is a legit business with legit employees and you are taking taxes out.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Yes, riding the backs of others is a commendable profession in today's world. The American dream baby, just live off the hard work of others! Screw working hard yourself.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Scepticaldem

You don't know anything about hard work obviously, seeing as you are downplaying an obviously physically and mentally demanding job as "mowing grass" and "laying sod". I don't just "lay sod", there's much more to it than that, but I wouldn't expect you to- know that. You're just showing your ignorance more and more with every reply.

I've done landscaping in the past, and plain and simple you are either the guy designing the landscape, or you are the grunt doing the menial physical labor that anyone with 2 hands and 20 minutes of training could do. It literally takes more time to train someone for fast food than landscape.

So please don't try to fantasize that landscaping is skilled labor. You simply put things where your boss tells you to.

THAT is landscaping...sorry brah, maybe you should re-think your career if it's not working out so well.