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Trump Colluded, Obstructed, Bribed, Extorted, Intimidated AND NOW He's Rigging 2020 Election

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posted on Nov, 18 2019 @ 08:58 AM
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The fact is, it has been shown that they talked about impeachment, even before Trump stepped into The White House, with one talking about it back in January, in a very contemptuous manner.


With no real evidence against Trump, and Pelosi running her mouth.

RESIGNATION is their goal. They know they don't have the goods on Trump.

We do have the goods on Never Trump hiring a Foreign spy to dig up dirt on a presidential challenger paid for by both the DNC and Trumps challenger.

They WILL say and do EVERYTHING to make him resign before the next election cycle.

edit on 18-11-2019 by neo96 because: (no reason given)




posted on Nov, 18 2019 @ 09:15 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: shawmanfromny

The problem with the Trump Ukraine bribery story is the story has legs!

No, it has crutches that are rotting away as they try to keep it propped up.

Enjoy your TDS level 5 while you can, level 6 is on the way, once the impeachment fails (possibly in the House, definitely in the Senate if it gets that far).

Then, after Trump wins re-election in a landslide popular vote win too... well, the fireworks will be like nothing we've ever seen before.



posted on Nov, 18 2019 @ 10:20 AM
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All these counterarguments belie the fact that for Trump to be the greatest president and supreme 4D chessmaster it stands to reason the only way he is impeached is if thats what he wants.....


So really Trump supporters should be asking himself whats Trump's long-game on this strategy of his own device?
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posted on Nov, 18 2019 @ 10:33 AM
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a reply to: Wayfarer

If that is indeed his strategy, it seems pretty obvious it would be to legally present evidence in a Senate trial.
Not to mention the damage an impeachment in the house will likely have on the democrat party in 2020.
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posted on Nov, 18 2019 @ 10:54 AM
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originally posted by: elDooberino
a reply to: Wayfarer

If that is indeed his strategy, it seems pretty obvious it would be to legally present evidence in a Senate trial.
Not to mention the damage an impeachment in the house will likely have on the democrat party in 2020.


I'm glad you've given this some thought, however, its probably prudent to discern the adequate explanation if/when your position above doesn't come to fruition.....

Assuming no evidence is presented by Trump, and the house Democrats retain control, I'm still certain its exactly what Trump would want, I just need some help with the explanation...



posted on Nov, 18 2019 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: Wayfarer

If no evidence is presented at trial and Dems retain control of the house, how could that still benefit Trump?

I guess he would still have a foil. Every "hero" needs a "villain". Not sure how important that would be in a second term, though. It might be valuable leading up to 2022 but I don't feel it would be that necessary.

At the end of the day, I think it will hurt Democrats in 2020.
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posted on Nov, 18 2019 @ 11:38 AM
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a reply to: elDooberino

I'd probably go with, "Trump allowed the Democrats to retain control and also not present evidence at the impeachment hearing precisely because he's got his eyes set on 2024 and he's realized before anyone else that now is the time to de-couple from the impeachment stuff and who cares if Dem's keep the house as long as Republicans control the presidency and senate."

The 'Foil' doesn't really change (its whoever is running against him). Key point here is its important/critical to cover our bases on how Trump is mentally just that much further along than just about anyone alive today, and that requires explanations for all likely scenarios. Just like we've discussed, whatever happens it pretty much was part of Trump's master plan and its important for people to feel safe/secure in that knowledge and also understand that Trump's so far ahead of his enemies that he's got this in the bag.



posted on Nov, 18 2019 @ 10:19 PM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

Chuck Todd is a liar, as is all Liberal media and can be proven easily via a YouTube or Internet search and you will find it anywhere...except in Liberal media. Trump is doing no such thing. Liberal media just makes up stories to fit their narratives. Those stories are limp attempts to dissuade the public from voting for Trump. Didn't work before, won't work now.



posted on Nov, 18 2019 @ 10:31 PM
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originally posted by: Ahabstar

What’s more is that investigators dug deeper and found other political families operating with Ukraine. You won’t hear that one as much. Because like exorcism of the demonically possessed, the screams would be deafening as the legion leaves the host.


I mean come on, the VP's son makes 5 million over years for just breathing from a company in Ukraine that has direct ties to the Kremlin and organized crime, and this is not news worthy.

Nothing to see here folks, but hey if the president asks for an investigation it is impeachable offense.



posted on Nov, 18 2019 @ 10:34 PM
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originally posted by: elDooberino


If no evidence is presented at trial and Dems retain control of the house, how could that still benefit Trump?



There was evidence, just 4 degrees of Kevin Bacon of a person who over heard one sided conversation and that went 4 degrees deep to be the home run hit for the Dems.



posted on Nov, 19 2019 @ 02:07 AM
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originally posted by: Night Star
a reply to: shawmanfromny


After watching, I asked myself, how many narratives and smears will the Dems use against President Trump, in order to see what sticks?


They have been relentless from the very beginning and will stop at nothing to take down Trump. In the meantime, they lie, collude, muzzle the Republicans in court hearings, waste time and money and aggravate people. It is divisive, a sham and it's about time Barr and Durham come forth with all they have discovered.


It's nothing new though...that's what people on the left need to see. The left is the REASON minorities struggle in poverty and violence but are told it's the secret all is white people Re in on and are out to sabotage their chances, they have always been sore losers I mean...I think it is around 70 or75 years. Democrats have impeached every last Republican president for 75 or so years. People need to see the mess for what it is if they wanna half wake up or if they truly want change they need to abolish Congress a d rewrite the rules since we have been so swindled raped and robbed as a country and it usually if not always starts with a few hundred people on a certain hill who all take a five or six figure job for four years but leave with a net worth in the seven eight or nine figures.



posted on Nov, 19 2019 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: AlexandrosTheGreat

I honestly don’t recall any impeachment of Reagan or Bush Sr... they wanted to send Bush JR to The Hague for war crimes even though Democrats voted for the wars and the first Patriot Act. Bush jr and Sr 2nd and 3rd gen Bonesman so I don’t think they were really serious about it just to keep up the illusion of being on opposing sides, but this Trump hatred is very real and palpable. Why? Because he’s not on the side of TPTB.



posted on Nov, 19 2019 @ 03:30 PM
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Live on Fantasy Island all you want. Making up fake stories is not proof. Hearsay isnt proof. Democrats are delusional make up stuff because we lost clowns. We will win again 2020. Your side sucks.



posted on Nov, 19 2019 @ 08:11 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: ManFromEurope

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
Like he needs to ‘rig’ the election

He’s greatly supported by the VAST majority of Americans and he has the 2020 election in the bag. No competition, hands down, biggest election victory in United States history.
Even California is likely going to turn red.

It must SUCK being a dEm supporter in this era. Totally let down, fooled and manipulated. So sad.


Thats totally great!
So, do you still plan on going to the election? I mean, the VAST majority is pro Trump and all, so your vote is simply not needed, righto?

Wait, Donald couldn't rig his people to go voting in Lousiana. Maybe they trusted his candidate to win too much?

Go vote!
Just compare Trumps rallies to Bidens ... theres your answer. Warren gets a fairly good number but I doubt she would beat Trump, because while many Democrats still are t aware of the socialist takeover, your average Trump supporter is.


I also think WWF sells out most of the time and has tens of millions of viewers. So what, if a whole crapload of people are attracted to fake entertainment?



posted on Nov, 20 2019 @ 12:59 AM
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Why try to get elected on your own skills, policies and personality? That # takes work, much easier to just say mean things about your opponent.

Don't get by on your own merits, get by on destroying your opponent! (Being really really rich helps, intelligence level is not important)

Modern 2 party oligarchies.... I mean democracies right there people!

Don't forget your vote supposedly matters.

2020 is just gonna be a repeat of the 2016 election. It's just going to be all the same crap followed by the all same impotent online complaining from the people electing these morons and little else.

Remember how countries like America, Australia and more were founded on internet bitching and complaining and biased TV news?

Yeah me neither. Maybe you yanks could start using those amendments, constitution and freedoms you're always going on about for once to fix the problem, instead of just talking about them when it suits and never using them ever.
(Then again maybe the 2nd Amendment was created just so people could wave guns at each other over road rage and to shoot up schools.... who knows what them forefathers of your were thinking amiright? I doubt they wanted you people using them to overthrow corrupt politicians and such....)

lol Seriously, modern politics, especially U.S politics is just a merry-go-round. Same ride every time.
Only thing I can see changing in 2020 is even more bull# political posts saying the same crap over and over every day by the same S&F whores on ATS.

Tax payers these days are their own worst enemies. But yeah sure, keep this game going until Superman comes to save you all, because quite clearly none of you have any intention of saving yourselves.
edit on 20-11-2019 by AtomicKangaroo because: typo or two probably more in there, their, they're.



posted on Nov, 20 2019 @ 01:47 AM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: AlexandrosTheGreat

I honestly don’t recall any impeachment of Reagan or Bush Sr... they wanted to send Bush JR to The Hague for war crimes even though Democrats voted for the wars and the first Patriot Act. Bush jr and Sr 2nd and 3rd gen Bonesman so I don’t think they were really serious about it just to keep up the illusion of being on opposing sides, but this Trump hatred is very real and palpable. Why? Because he’s not on the side of TPTB.


Sorry I misspoke. George H. W. Bush and Reagan both indeed had articles of impeachment filed against them by representatives of the Democratic party, though I don't think either ended up getting the party's official backing as a whole. But I guess it's every Republican president has had articles of impdachment filed against them except for Ford. That's the fact in my, more or less, regurgitated information I have heard used as a talking point several times.

But no, I hear you loud and clear. If anyone were to tell me just a few years ago that I would no longer declare myself a liberal,oudly and proudly, if anyone told me I would feel bad for a republican president facing opposition, and especially if anyone told me in just a few years I would feel that the Republican president, who just so happened to be Donald Trump too, was being wrongfully attacked from all directions and because of it, a would-have-been fruitful and prosperous time for our country and slam-dunk of an administration would end up handicapped to the point it found it difficult to achieve all it had the potential to if not bombarded with nonsense every day of another kind, I would have had to distract you with pleasantries and talk about the weather while a gang of policemen and psychiatrists approached you from behind to slip a jacket on you since it would mean you were so incredibly insane that you likely posed a threat to yourself and those around you.

Good thing that your developing clairvoyance and my crossing paths with you to create such a scenario never happened or in the present, I would be in the same position with you that the opposition to Trump finds itself in....forced to double down then triple down and digging deeper and deeper into a pit of ridicule, pitifulness, humiliation, ignorance, incompetence, and misdirected malevolence or else having to admit to the world that I had made a huge mistake and that you were actually right and in today's world where almost every other person and nearly ALL millennials would fall somewhere in the spectrum of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, that would prove mighty difficult so I too would maybe seek out any persons media outlet, group or accusation which shared my opposition to you and let anything I heard in that safe space be factual, no matter the source, anything brought up as a possible bad move be one so unacceptable and unethical it required immediate impeachment and removal for the sake of the very future survival of democracy even if in reality the act was a simple hiccough, I would allow my mind to stretch in ways I never thought possible to show why something done by all previous presidents IS something truly wicked and conspiratorial when done by this administration even if it took days, weeks, months even to come up with a reason why THIS timd, it's different, it's serious. And lastly, I would refuse to allow the celebration of any victory, big or small, or stand for anyone around me making a public statement of approval of anything he does since it is such a slippery slope for someone giving a one time approval to fall into the nasty habit of being reasonable or honest in judging someone that they stop actively pushing against a person who is doing a fine job and whose performance, in the end, would make a paranoid fool and jackass out of me and make my behavior for the last few years look just about as hate fueled, petty, pathetic and childish as a person can get

Yes, were definitely on the same page there and I NEVER in a million years would have thought it possible for me to be here. And though I actually no longer believe in the whole bicameral, bipartisan, elected, republic form of government at all, for what it is worth I'll still say God bless President Trump and his family simply because SOMEHOW it seems as if he truly ISNT just another one of "them," and the desperation from everywhere you turn to make him the most hated and opposed individual on the planet should be the BIGGEST clueto anyone with any sense that that's where your support should go if it's a choice of this or that if you aren't ready to accept that it's all a bunch of malarkey and government as a whole needs to be wiped out and reestablished in a totally new way of life.
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posted on Nov, 20 2019 @ 03:27 AM
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Schiff asked if what he has isn't enough to impeach, what would be? (As though that were some kind of rhetorical question.)

I think he wants the constitutional clause that gives Congress the right to impeach to be rewritten for him.

He wants Congress to simply have the right to remove any president it doesn't like.



posted on Nov, 20 2019 @ 09:31 PM
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Lock his ass up!!!



posted on Nov, 21 2019 @ 09:31 PM
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Lock this Trumpturd up!!



posted on Nov, 21 2019 @ 09:37 PM
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originally posted by: jimrat201
Lock his ass up!!!



Does it hurt that bad that after a 5 year break you had to come back to let out your tds primal reeeeeeeeeeee?



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