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Former CIA whistleblower blasts media, dismisses unnamed official who flagged Trump-Ukraine call

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posted on Nov, 18 2019 @ 08:50 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

They must be saying FOX is making the quotes up. It's the only logical answer. Pretty much all news is opinion. At least this is the opinion of someone involved rather than the opinion of the editor or writer. News is so slanted today that the actual story, the fact piece, accounts for very little. It's all unnamed sources and written to make you believe what the writer wants you to believe rather than the truth.


I've been basically saying the same thing for years. The death of the news happened when it was decided that the TV newsroom had to pay for itself instead of being broadcast as a public service. When the TV news was subsidized by the station or network that was broadcasting, real news could be reported regardless of anyone's desires or opinions. The Who, What, Where, When and How was important instead of how the editors "felt" about the story. Opinions were clearly stated as such during the editorial segment of the program.

In today's "news" opinions are reported as facts. Opinions matter more than the truth of the story. We are being told HOW to FEEL about a story instead of making up our own minds. "If you don't feel about this story the way we tell you to, there must be something wrong with you." seems to be the popular attitude regarding current events. It really is a shame.

Many "journalists" are no longer actual journalists, but propagandizers for their chosen "side".




posted on Nov, 18 2019 @ 07:37 PM
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originally posted by: smurfy
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

As for the whistleblower, it's natural for any opposing political party to go after them when accusations are directed toward those parties or their leaders, in a situation.


Never mind that the aforementioned whistleblower came out against a Republican led military. Surely he's attacking the Trump whistleblower because of his leftist politics ūüôĄ.



posted on Nov, 19 2019 @ 12:17 AM
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AND ANOTHER BOMBSHELL RELEASED TONIGHT.

From DAVID HALE, the #3 Guy at the U.S. State Department:

David Hale, the State Department’s No. 3 official, testified in a Nov. 6 closed-door deposition that no one in the Trump administration or any "government channel" ever mentioned former Vice President Joe Biden or his son Hunter as a reason for withholding aid from Ukraine, according to a transcript of his remarks released late Monday by House Democrats in their impeachment inquiry.

Democrats have argued that the White House improperly pressured Ukraine to look into the Bidens and Burisma Holdings, the natural gas company where Hunter Biden held a lucrative role despite limited expertise while his father oversaw Ukraine policy as vice president.

George Kent, a State Department official who has also testified in the impeachment investigation, said he flagged Hunter Biden's apparent conflict of interest to the Obama administration at the time.
www.foxnews.com...



posted on Nov, 19 2019 @ 07:22 AM
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a reply to: smurfy

The logic is credible enough, u can't whistle-blow when you have no first hand knowledge. If that was the case I can say you need to be investigated because I heard you did a quid pro quo.



posted on Nov, 19 2019 @ 09:28 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: RickinVa
a reply to: smurfy

"Fox News is not a credible source."

That's funny.....I would estimate that they were 95% accurate on everything they reported about Cankles and her server.

I bet you think CNN is a credible source.


How do you not have a credible source for opinion?

I mean, opinion is just opinion. It doesn't have sources.



They must be saying FOX is making the quotes up. It's the only logical answer. Pretty much all news is opinion. At least this is the opinion of someone involved rather than the opinion of the editor or writer. News is so slanted today that the actual story, the fact piece, accounts for very little. It's all unnamed sources and written to make you believe what the writer wants you to believe rather than the truth.


I won't concede that opinion piece, after opinion piece, constitutes 'news'.

Firstly they get a single commentator, who doesn't necessarily stick to only the factual data, but presents emotion charged spin, vaguely connected to the topic they purport to present.

Then they get a panel of people who all agree with the same premise, to argue about what they understood about the topic and comment on random irrelevancies like clothing or hairstyle.

Then subsequent presenters refer to the previous commentators as 'sources' upon which to embellish their opinion.

Rinse and repeat.



posted on Nov, 20 2019 @ 03:45 AM
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originally posted by: smurfy

As for the whistleblower, it's natural for any opposing political party to go after them when accusations are directed toward those parties or their leaders, in a situation.



It's actually very unlikely anyone will attack the whistleblower. What point would there be?

But without knowing anything about him/her, how do you evaluate the truth of his/her claim? (If the whistleblower even has anything to say that isn't already in the public record.)

How do you evaluate their motivations?

They might have "blown the whistle" for the same reason as why Taylor came forward: because he was worried that if Zelensky did what Trump asked, the democrats in congress would stop voting to send aid to Ukraine. Not because he believed Trump had acted at all outside his authority, but because he didn't like Trump's decision.

A motivation like that would discredit the whole proceeding. But absolutely no way whatsoever would it endanger the whistleblower's life or welfare.




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