Good news on the trade war...

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
I guess you could say the US citizens are paying more for goods from China, but I’m gonna need to see proof because I haven’t noticed a difference at all since the trade war got started.

You could say? It 100% increases the cost of goods sold here.

I've seen milk go from $2.00 a gallon to under a dollar.

So, somethings working lol

originally posted by: mikell
Not everyone shops at Walmart. Buy local buy American.

I've been in a Walmart once and it wasn't to shop. Regardless, a good deal of products are tariffed whether you shop at Walmart or not and the cost of that is borne by the end user.

a reply to: Wardaddy454

Milk is not something that's imported from China so would not be impacted by tariffs one way or another.

originally posted by: JAY1980
It's a refund more than anything.

It's a subsidy, you're taking money from one group of Americans to give to other Americans.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Kind of like how socialism works....who'd a thunk.



Peace

a reply to: operation mindcrime

Yup. It's funny how government handouts are suddenly acceptable when it's for your side.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Do you have a real world example of an item that is more expensive as a direct result of the trade war going on now? I personally have seen zero change on any product or service that I have, now I'm just one person and can't experience everything.

a reply to: Hypntick

Sure, LED luminaires, they've gone up 40-50%. I worked for the largest manufacturer in the world for about 4 years until I recently changed jobs. Our products went up due to the tariffs and that cost was passed on to end users.

Here's an example of someone we made product for, Acuity. They raised their prices four times, including once after this article was written earlier this year.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Interesting, I haven't seen that yet, but expect I will soon-ish as I am building a house. Is that more for commercial application vs standard consumer? If consumer, it will have a direct impact for me, so knowing when to time buying my lighting would be nice.

a reply to: Hypntick

Kind of a skewed perspective for consumers but remember that graphics card you bought two years ago? Now it only costs a fraction of what it cost back then..

Prices for consumer electronics drop at a steady pace but that kind of stopped dropping so you won't see stuff getting more expensive...it just isn't getting cheaper..

Hope I got that right...

Peace

a reply to: Hypntick

It's for everyone on all fixtures coming in from China, the price of the lighting you are purchasing is going to be 30-50% higher than it was two years ago.

Trump's Tariffs don't even cover the tax breaks.

The deficit this year jumped up 26%. The country can't take much more of this type of "winning."

a reply to: ScepticScot


That has not translated into higher prices for consumer goods. As the yuan continues to lose value we will not see those price increases. We haven't, and thats what "American tax payers" ever pay for tariffs.

Tariffs increase import costs. As an importer you can charge that cost to the Chinese. Importers often do and the Chinese can't afford not to.

China is very much paying for these tariffs.

We always talk about American farmers, but do you know what other massive, not really talked about group?

Chinese manufacturers.

They are currently experiencing slow down in their manufacturing sectors as well as a number of other areas, while the chinese tout excuses as global economic growth slowdowns and my personal favorite, "relatively greater external uncertainties”. Translation: Trade War.

All year long, weak data and continueing downward trends in their economic data, so indeed, GOOD NEWS ON THAT TRADE WAR.

Is chinas woes the result of the Trade War? No, but it highly exacerbates it and kills investment optimism.

Whatever your views, America is a Developed nation and an Advanced economy. We have the means for change and the will for reform ourselves, in fact, the Trade War really gives us a personal reflection upon ourselves and perhaps it is time to advance and evolve our economic infrastructure even further beyond....

a reply to: projectvxn

I just gave a real world verifiable case where it does.

a reply to: Grimpachi

What are we supposed to do, capitulate to the commies while they steal from us and sell us dangerous products? Let them continue to spy on us?

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Grimpachi

What are we supposed to do, capitulate to the commies while they steal from us and sell us dangerous products? Let them continue to spy on us?

I literally get that same exact reaction myself, they scream, derp derp, but don't present solutions and never really think about it beyond it other than wah Trump Trade War China Hmpf.

However, I will say this,

*** We have trade issues with China and they need to be dealt with, here and NOW.

***We are in this Trade War, no point in abandoning it, stick to our guns and see it through.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: projectvxn

I just gave a real world verifiable case where it does.

Buy your LEDs from Taiwan.

When I build LED lighting fixtures I use mainly American products or products from anti communist sources. I use American produced tantalum capacitors, Taiwanese resistors, photodiodes, and LEDs. I buy American transistors and Korean PCBs. Metals are manufactured in the US and plastic moldings and diffusers are Korean.

China isn't the beginning or end of the market.

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Grimpachi

What are we supposed to do, capitulate to the commies while they steal from us and sell us dangerous products? Let them continue to spy on us?

Hard to say...



This though doesn't seem to be working...

Peace

originally posted by: operation mindcrime

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Grimpachi

What are we supposed to do, capitulate to the commies while they steal from us and sell us dangerous products? Let them continue to spy on us?

Hard to say...

This though doesn't seem to be working...

Peace

Most likely it is.

The point is to bring parties to the table.

China has negative economic data all year long and the decline is a trend, not to mention recent outbreaks that affect their supply from non American resources, such as Pork haven't made things easier.

The only thing keeping china from pursuing is pride, they lost and they need help, so save face, admit defeat, agree to the US issues and get trade back up.