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San Frans New DA Panders To Homeless Won't Prosecute Public Urination And Camping

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posted on Nov, 16 2019 @ 06:38 AM
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As most of us already know, San Francisco's homelessness problem is out of control. People are camping in the parks, as well as on public sidewalks, and the problem is getting worse.

Homeless Population Surges Across Bay Area:

The homeless are already defecating in front of stores and businesses downtown, as well as shooting up drugs and leaving spent needles everywhere. In San Fran, they even have a "poop patrol."

Now, San Francisco's newly elected DA is going to turn a blind eye to all of this. DA Chesa Boudin wants to "decriminalize poverty and homelessness," which will only exacerbate the problem. This guy also had an interesting childhood, being raised by two Weather Underground terrorists, which is discussed in this thread.

Boudin was raised in Chicago by Weather Underground leaders – and Barack Obama buddies – Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. He worked as a translator for the Venezuelan socialist dictator Hugo Chavez. And now, San Francisco is lucky enough to have a man with his outlook heading the city’s criminal prosecution system.

Boudin wrote that he was not interested in prosecuting “quality-of-life” crimes — or the crimes most Americans take for granted will not be acceptable in their communities.

“We will not prosecute cases involving quality-of-life crimes,” he wrote. “Crimes such as public camping, offering or soliciting sex, public urination, blocking a sidewalk, etc., should not and will not be prosecuted. Many of these crimes are still being prosecuted; we have a long way to go to decriminalize poverty and homelessness.”



Is it time for a "Pee Party" in San Francisco? Why Not?

FOX New commentator Jesse Watters suggested people should start peeing in front of the new district attorney's office: "Do you remember the Tea Party?" Watters asked on Tuesday. "San Francisco needs to start the 'Pee Party.' OK. And this is what they need to do every day when the D.A. walks into his office there needs to be a bunch of patriots just peeing on the sidewalk in front of him until he's forced to arrest them."
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posted on Nov, 16 2019 @ 06:59 AM
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All I can say is, this is what happens when Democrats are in total control of the government.

They make/pass laws based on emotion that have unintended consequences.

They have made California a literal cesspool. I have family in LA who said in their very nice upscale neighborhood, there are homeless camping in people's back yards. God help you if you try and get them out of your yard. They had a homeless camp down the hill in their back yard, They were not allowed to try and move them. They were grateful when it flooded and the homeless had to move out of their back yard.

I have family in Seattle, where Democrats run everything. Just a few months ago I was there and it looks like a third world country with garbage everywhere - even IN the airport. Graffiti on highway signs is so bad you can barely read them. Under the bridges look like an open garbage landfill.

This is what happens when laws are based on emotions.

This is what will happen to the entire country if God help us, Democrats are in control of all the branches of government.

Hard working people will get arrested for eating a sandwich on the subway, while people who poop on the streets are patted on the back and told, poor dear, you have no where to poop, we are so mean.






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posted on Nov, 16 2019 @ 07:14 AM
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DA Chesa Boudin wants to "decriminalize poverty and homelessness...


Back up a second there mate!

Are you seriously trying to claim its currently illegal to be poor and homeless in San Francisco? Because that would be some other world counterproductive law.

Anyway, never personally been to the states, let alone San Francisco. But considering that's where Silicon valley is, then logic would dictate there are a lot of incredibly wealthy people living there as well.

So maybe, that's the cause of this whole poverty and homelessness hysteria I keep hearing about San Francisco... maybe it's not that actual poverty is so much worse in San Francisco, than most other major cities. But rather that they just stand out so much more, when compared to the large ridiculously wealthy population, who also reside in San Francisco.


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posted on Nov, 16 2019 @ 07:19 AM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: shawmanfromny




DA Chesa Boudin wants to "decriminalize poverty and homelessness...


Back up a second there mate!

Are you seriously trying to claim its currently illegal to be poor and homeless in San Francisco? Because that would be some other world counterproductive law.

Anyway, never personally been to the states, let alone San Francisco. But considering that's where Silicon valley is, then logic would dictate there are a lot of incredibly wealthy people living there as well.

So maybe, that's the cause of this whole poverty and homelessness hysteria I keep hearing about San Francisco... maybe it's not that actual poverty is so much worse in San Francisco, than most other major cities. But rather that they just stand out so much more, when compared to the large ridiculously wealthy population, who also reside in San Francisco.



Nope..You are wrong.
Spend 1 hour in San Fran and you can experience the homelessness first hand.

IMO Homelessness it and itself is not illegal or immoral or anything negative..It's often a sad reality of life for some folks.
On the other hand using public areas for your bathroom, shooting up drugs, being a drunk, camping on someones property..Yah those things should be and are illegal for anyone.



posted on Nov, 16 2019 @ 07:27 AM
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a reply to: Subaeruginosa

The problem is that California has declined to enforce any laws regarding homeless camps or defecating on the streets or urinating on the streets.

It has become a Mecca for the homeless: great climate, not too many day's get freezing cold
You won't be forced to move your tent if you park it in the yard of someones 3 bedroom house in a middle class neighborhood
You won't be prosecuted if you poop or pee on the streets
You won't be hassled for shooting up or doing drugs or being passed out high on the streets
If you are an illegal alien, you get free healthcare

The homeless may be homeless but they aren't stupid. They want to be where they can get the best deal, just like everyone else.

The beautiful state where everyone wanted to be is now a huge garbage dump (I'm not talking people, but literal garbage)

Only the very rich can afford homes, or those who bought them and hung onto them (like my family) before it became too expensive for the gardeners/maids/mechanics/fast food workers who actually keep things running can't afford housing and now live on the streets near their jobs. The average price for a home in SF and LA is around $1,000,000 (one million!), for a 3 bedroom regular middle class type house. What people who wait on the rich can pay those prices? They can't.

Children are allowed to live with their parents and are not taken to homes where they won't have to sleep on the ground or won't freeze when it does get cold. A perfect place for a homeless family, all they have to do is get there, and they do go there, in droves now.



The old glamorous and very nice state of California is like an endangered species, it is nearly dead, and progressive/liberal policies are the pesticide that has killed the state.

The problem is NOT just in San Francisco, LA has the same problem, so does progressive/liberal run Seattle.



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posted on Nov, 16 2019 @ 07:41 AM
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What needs to happen is the homeless should be taken to internment camps or detention centres where they are made to work in exchange for a bed and food. This should be followed with the poor and any undesirables and people who don’t think the right way such as democrats and libertarians. Anyone who disagrees or disobeys should be rounded up and shot as an example to others.



posted on Nov, 16 2019 @ 07:55 AM
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originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: The2Billies

What needs to happen is the homeless should be taken to internment camps or detention centres where they are made to work in exchange for a bed and food. This should be followed with the poor and any undesirables and people who don’t think the right way such as democrats and libertarians. Anyone who disagrees or disobeys should be rounded up and shot as an example to others.


You sarcasm tells me that you approve of allowing children to live on the streets and sleep on the ground out of compassion.

In my conservative, very conservative middle size city we don't have this problem and we don't have concentration camps. We do have a homeless shelter for families, I know, I volunteer there. It is a converted nursing home where we keep families together and off the streets. Parents are helped to find jobs, which are there, and taught economic principles to keep them out of trouble. Our state hasn't driven home prices up so high that an average person can't afford an apartment.

We also just doubled the size of our homeless shelter. We now have one very large shelter for men and one for women/children. There they are helped to find jobs, and taught economic principles to get them on their feet.

What is so startling is that these shelters are run by a consortium of all the churches/synagogues in the city. Yes, we actually allow the religious to help the homeless which is forbidden in some progressive/liberal states, because they don't meet health and safety stringent rules for commercial kitchens, just use home kitchens. (Better they sleep in filthy tents and eat salvaged garbage in the eyes of progressive/liberals - than to take anything from the conservative religious)

We also allow the churches/synagogues to feed the homeless who choose to live in camps, yes some choose it. My husband goes once a week with our church to feed them. The very conservative city government makes them move monthly so they can clean up the cesspool left behind. Then they put port a potties where they will allow the "new" camp.

We have state funded jobs programs and assistance programs, as well as some run by religious organizations.

We have a huge program to help the recently released from prison to stay off the streets with halfway houses and job support and training. Run by the churches/synagogues.

But I'm sure you find all this repulsive and would rather be compassionate and not "force" them into these programs and give them a place to live and food to eat. Because it comes from the nasty conservative religious types who don't force them into "conversion", or to go to "religious services", who just quietly go about actually improving the lives of the homeless, getting children off the street, and feeding them food that doesn't come from a garbage bin.

We nasty conservatives just quietly go about actually doing something for the homeless.

The progressive/liberals just look at them and say: poor poor person, we'll let you freeze to death if that's what you choose; we'll forbid the religious from feeding you or helping you so they don't bother you; we'll let you lie on the street nearly dead from drugs/alcohol and not take the needle out of your arm; we'll let you steep in garbage because you can't afford a trash collector and get nasty diseases from the garbage if that is what you choose; after all we are the compassionate caring ones. Who don't want to get our hands dirty.

If you are so compassionate, what are YOU doing to help the homeless?
You are obviously very compassionate and liberal, what are you doing?
What is your government doing since progressive/liberals loathe any conservative religious assistance for the homeless.
Or is your compassion to look at them, walk by, and say compassion is to allow human beings and children to live like rats?





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posted on Nov, 16 2019 @ 08:02 AM
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The problem with laws based on feelings is they have to be applied equally. If they aren't going to prosecute public defacation/urination for homeless people, they just as well can't do it on the drunk obnoxious guy who just left a bachelor party and decides to stand in the street to do his business. Methinks they are only looking at this with the eye for the homeless though.

It's kind of like wanting open borders so long as you are brown. Can't let a bunch of French people in without following the rules though. THEY need to follow the process.
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posted on Nov, 16 2019 @ 08:18 AM
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You sarcasm tells me that you approve of allowing children to live on the streets and sleep on the ground out of compassion


Actually I despise the system that lets this happen. You asked what am I doing about it? I’m fighting that system tooth and nail.

The cheating corrupt banks aren’t the ones that are to big to fail. People are to important to fail. If the government could get its priorities right it could end poverty just like that. Instead we live in a system designed to keep an increasing majority in perpetual debt.



posted on Nov, 16 2019 @ 08:24 AM
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originally posted by: shawmanfromny
As most of us already know, San Francisco's homelessness problem is out of control. People are camping in the parks, as well as on public sidewalks, and the problem is getting worse.


I have to ask.

What is your solution to the homeless situation?

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posted on Nov, 16 2019 @ 08:26 AM
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a reply to: Halfswede

Speaking of public defacation why is nobody pointing at “big brother” or the “cabal”who has taken one massive dump on us all?



posted on Nov, 16 2019 @ 08:28 AM
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originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: Halfswede

Speaking of public defacation why is nobody pointing at “big brother” or the “cabal”who has taken one massive dump on us all?


What does that have to do with the topic of this thread though?



posted on Nov, 16 2019 @ 08:32 AM
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Here in Las Vegas, a law was recently passed making sleeping in the streets illegal (with certain condition, of course)

www.theguardian.com...



posted on Nov, 16 2019 @ 08:36 AM
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originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: The2Billies




You sarcasm tells me that you approve of allowing children to live on the streets and sleep on the ground out of compassion


Actually I despise the system that lets this happen. You asked what am I doing about it? I’m fighting that system tooth and nail.

The cheating corrupt banks aren’t the ones that are to big to fail. People are to important to fail. If the government could get its priorities right it could end poverty just like that. Instead we live in a system designed to keep an increasing majority in perpetual debt.


Fighting the system, letting the government take care of it?

That is what liberals do, let the government handle it so they don't have to get their hands dirty. Well, the all Democratic Party run government is doing a bang up job in SF, LA and Seattle.



posted on Nov, 16 2019 @ 08:44 AM
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a reply to: The2Billies

What city is this?



posted on Nov, 16 2019 @ 08:48 AM
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originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: The2Billies




You sarcasm tells me that you approve of allowing children to live on the streets and sleep on the ground out of compassion


Actually I despise the system that lets this happen. You asked what am I doing about it? I’m fighting that system tooth and nail.

The cheating corrupt banks aren’t the ones that are to big to fail. People are to important to fail. If the government could get its priorities right it could end poverty just like that. Instead we live in a system designed to keep an increasing majority in perpetual debt.


If you think debt is the problem, wait until the tax rate hits European levels that they have found they must impose on the middle/lower middle class to have free healthcare and free college, etc. They quickly tapped their rich as dry as possible. Their total tax burden income/sales tax/federal property tax/$3 a gallon gas tax/ etc has given the middle class Europeans an average of 60-70% taxes going to the very system you say you are fighting. What will happen once the US has that kind of tax burden to the debt of the average person? Homelessness will explode. Probably why Democrats want to legalize it and allow people to live like rats on the street.

Let them die on the streets, after all it will decrease the surplus population, which is one goal of the Democratic Party right now, decreasing the population. So the Democrats made it an nonpunishable offense to keep children sleeping on park benches in the freezing cold, and forbade religious groups from feeding or helping them so they eat from contaminated garbage. Those nasty conservatives, always quietly thinking they are better than everyone else, by trying to give people a place to live or food to eat they cooked in a home style kitchen, we know their tricks to force religion on people, really!



posted on Nov, 16 2019 @ 08:49 AM
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This fits 3 cities

San Francisco

Los Angeles

Seattle

One photo is from SF and the other San Diego


Unless you are asking where I live. Sorry, won't let that out. Suffice it to say our state and city government are all conservative Republicans.



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posted on Nov, 16 2019 @ 08:49 AM
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a reply to: The2Billies

No, what city is the one that implemented the things you claimed in your post?


In my conservative, very conservative middle size city we don't have this problem...





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posted on Nov, 16 2019 @ 09:07 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: The2Billies

No, what city is the one that implemented the things you claimed in your post?


In my conservative, very conservative middle size city we don't have this problem...






The one I live in.

That information I won't give out. Sorry. Not in a public forum.

Suffice it to say, it is REAL. I volunteer at the homeless shelter for families with 2 parents or a father with children. My husband feeds the homeless.

I will tell you that our city has more PhD's per capita than any other midsize/small city. I will also tell you that it is a state that is reviled and made fun of regularly as backward and backwater, and one the liberals openly despise. It is a well kept secret, we don't want to be overrun by liberals fleeing the cesspools they made for themselves.



posted on Nov, 16 2019 @ 09:08 AM
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a reply to: The2Billies

Without fact checking I don't believe you.




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