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Anyone else tired of people claiming “the American people” voted for trump”?

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posted on Nov, 14 2019 @ 08:41 PM

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: vonclod
What does it matter, he won in the system provided.


Just like what will it matter if Trump is impeached and removed via the system provided.....

Heads will explode!!

Not in any way a Trump fan, but all this is becoming mind numbing.

posted on Nov, 14 2019 @ 09:06 PM
a reply to: StevenCrowley06

The population of the US is 327 million. 62.9 mil voted for Trump and 65.8 mil voted for Clinton out of about 157 mil registered voters. That leaves about 27 mil votes not made. If most of those 27 mil people were like me and didn’t vote because they felt like “lesser of the two evils” was not an acceptable presidential candidate offer, then I don’t think Clinton’s measly 3 mil would make a legit population representative difference. Because if forced to choose, I would still go with Trump because he may be a douche but Clinton is flat out evil. So if you want to start counting beans, you may want to let Clinton keep her pittance of an extra 3 mil because if you were to hold out for every voter to cast their lot, I can assure you Trump would most likely have still won the popular vote by a landslide. Especially if every hillbilly in the nation were registered, which they are not. I’m a hillbilly, so I would know. A registered hillbilly fwiw.

posted on Nov, 14 2019 @ 11:58 PM
i say this every single time a trump supporter says "the will of the people".

the will of the people was hillary.

the will of the electoral college was trump.

btw, the electoral college was a compromise for slavery in the south. it had nothing to do will fairness.

posted on Nov, 15 2019 @ 12:02 AM

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: StevenCrowley06

You mean the 10+ million illegals and dead people who voted for Hillary in California?



your vote fraud angle is old and boring. not to mention wrong.

"The now-disbanded voting integrity commission launched by the Trump administration uncovered no evidence to support claims of widespread voter fraud, according to an analysis of administration documents released Friday."
edit on 15-11-2019 by stormson because: (no reason given)

posted on Nov, 15 2019 @ 06:34 AM
Look, you barked at me the other day too. And I’m far from a trumpeter. I’m as left as they come. Though I’ve supported republicans, like Ron Paul, and select others. And I’ve watched the wrong guy get elected every 4 years. So maybe I’m just used to the system. But let’s be clear, sanders was the majorities choice. He had and has the most donors by far. But our system is not set up that way. His win was stolen by the dnc shenanigans because the electoral process is only democratic until it goes against the establishment wishes. And yes, I agree the electoral college is a farce. It’s allowed republicans to maintain parity in a country where they are always the minority party, along with gerrymandering and citizens united. But hey, that’s the system we have, and to attack it by impeachment is the wrong way to go. Read the crowd, it’s just likely to push more people to support trump, and has more chance to hurt the possibility of getting a good candidate next time rather than help it.

That aside, let’s be clear. For whatever reasons the last election came down to the 2 most unpopular candidates in history. Both inspired disgust among the majority. And in that landscape, trump was definitely the better candidate. Clinton was and is probably the most corrupt and soulless person to stand on Election Day, and would likely have had us even closer to catastrophic war with Russia or China than trump does. Both are horrible for the economy and for the world, but trump was the better choice, and won in the system we have. Against the establishment wishes.

posted on Nov, 15 2019 @ 06:37 AM
And to add. Why would you want him impeached now?? There could be no greater rebuttal of all he stands for than if he’s still in power when the economy collapses in 6-8 months. Impeachment will just let him dodge his part in that.

posted on Nov, 15 2019 @ 07:16 AM
a reply to: pexx421

How naive... you actually think Trump and his supporters would EVER accept any responsibility for anything negative? When the economy collapses they'll blame:
--- the Democrats
--- 'Never Trumpers'
--- illegals
--- the deep state
--- the media
--- Obama
--- the Man in the Moon

Trump is perfect in every way. He's incapable of mistakes and is only 'trolling' his doubters when he does dumb-ass stuff.

posted on Nov, 15 2019 @ 07:54 AM
a reply to: jtma508

I’m sure that’s largely true. But you won’t get any points slinging ad hominem my way. However, the greater likelihood is that by pushing this impeachment stuff they may well be handing him another election. It’s important also to remember that last election was an anti establishment showing on both sides. Because everyone is sick of the establishment. There’s no “lessor evil” when the primary candidates of both parties represent the same wealthy elite, and are specifically placed to wage class war on their behalf. And this includes bush, Clinton, Reagan, Obama, Clinton, trump etc.

posted on Nov, 15 2019 @ 08:06 AM

originally posted by: PastyGansta
No. I had this all cleared up in High School Civics.

Best. Reply. Ever.

posted on Nov, 15 2019 @ 08:15 AM

originally posted by: stormson
i say this every single time a trump supporter says "the will of the people".

the will of the people was hillary.

Hillary got much less than 50% of the voting population and less than 50% of the actual votes on the night.

The US is a union of states and each states' people have independent voices

Hillary got over 50% in just 14 of 50 states in the USA:

District of Columbia
New York
New Jersey
Rhode Island

Trump got more than 50% in 23 of the 50 states

West Virginia
North Dakota
South Dakota
South Carolina

Explain how that represents the will of the people being Hillary?
edit on 15/11/2019 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)

posted on Nov, 15 2019 @ 08:32 AM

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: Wayfarer

Yep, and you completely missed the point.

I don't believe so. My witty retort was shining a light on how any conclusion can be leveraged with selective examples.

posted on Nov, 15 2019 @ 11:18 AM
It’s remarkable that people still hold onto such a deluded view. Every other president won under the EC rules since its introduction. Personally, not being American, I have been astounded by how good Donald Trump has been. He is now a historic figure and by the far the best president (for Americans) is the past 100 years and arguably ever. I get to analyse world events in many spheres and what Trump has done for the US since coming to office is amazing and indeed rights many wrongs (from an American point of view) all the way back to the now forgotten but critical for Europe Marshall plan.

However, the biggest revelation to come out of Trumps presidency, is the vile and rotten level of corruption running through Washington and the Democrat status quo. The collusion with the establishment controlled media is simply breathtaking. The establishment murders that have taken place right out in the open and the blind eye cast by a rotten media, confirms how JFK etc was easily wiped out. Trump would have been assassinated by now if we were back in 60/70/80’s. In today’s world, technology makes it far too risky to follow the smoking gun.

I’ve looked closely at what Trump has done and not just the monumental stuff with China/Kim etc, but with regulation security and inheritance rights, energy and much more. Meanwhile, the establishment waste time trying to remove a president who is not one of them and not part of the rotten political cabal that keeps the ample gravy train running at the expense of the ordinary hard working American.

There is no doubt that the dogmatic church of the Dems and it’s ultra PC indoctrination has for decades infected many Americans, especially on the east and west coasts. Ironically, it was the deplorables in the middle who first woke up and saw what was going on. Every second of every day the leaders in Washington throw the baby out with the bath water in order to keep their cushy vile and corrupt lives intact whilst Americans suffer in silence.

Well Trump has broken the silence. It’s got nothing to do with whether or not you like Trump personally or his morals, no more than you would care about those of the cancer specialist who’s operating on your cancer. You want a good job done. Well Trump is removing the cancer for all Americans. He’s going to have to dig deep but he’s personal physical and mental strength is amazing for a man of his age.

Yes, he is a blunt instrument, but an armoured piercing missile when it comes to the sick status quo.

I’m looking forward to what comes down the line from Barr. Despite the historic precedent for law enforcement to protect their own, it will be fascinating to see what happens to Clapper, Comey and Brennan and indeed many more.

Many from outside the US are and have been watching events very closely and some of us are even getting an education. Trump is the most astonishing change agent any of us have seen in our lifetimes.

posted on Nov, 15 2019 @ 11:20 AM
a reply to: StevenCrowley06

Obviously you've never seen any of his rallies.

Sour Grapes any there dude.

posted on Nov, 15 2019 @ 11:30 AM
a reply to: StevenCrowley06
We’ll, weren’t you one of the shortest lived memories in ATS history. Would love to know your username count to date, LOL.

posted on Nov, 15 2019 @ 11:59 AM
a reply to: StevenCrowley06

The American people did vote for Trump. Millions of illegal aliens voted for hillary. Oh, and dead people. We can't forget them...

posted on Nov, 15 2019 @ 12:10 PM
a reply to: StevenCrowley06

ple wanted are even remotely accurate.. trump supporters do not get to pretend the average American wanted him or supports him,

You mean all 63 million of us? How about the #walkaway movement and black conservatives? Just wait till we have a mass exodus of Democrats walking away because of the circus show impeachment proceedings, you know in which Adam Schiff is trying to control who gets to question ambassadors and such ?(this morning in fact only half an hour or so ago )

posted on Nov, 15 2019 @ 12:27 PM
Apathetic non-voter here, I have never voted for a president since becoming eligible. I do vote in local elections as they generally mean more to me than the presidential ones. However, next year I will cast my first vote for president, and it will be one for Trump. If the way the media and social media circuses have galvanized myself into voting for president, I'm sure it's done the same for other apathetic non-voters.

posted on Nov, 15 2019 @ 05:16 PM

originally posted by: StevenCrowley06

Anyone else tired of people pretending “the American people elected trump”, completely ignoring the fact the majority did not want him...and the majority by 3 million votes..

No one can take the win away from him, but you trumpettes so none of those statements that pretend the American people wanted are even remotely accurate.. trump supporters do not get to pretend the average American wanted him or supports him, because the average American hates his guts, and his supporters are not the average Americans..

Trump supporters are the minority... and the minority by a fair amount..

Right, antifa, BLM, LGBTQ, hollyweird, muslims, illegal aliens sure do make up a good portion of the country now.

You guys are all buddies

posted on Nov, 15 2019 @ 07:14 PM

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: StevenCrowley06

You mean the 10+ million illegals and dead people who voted for Hillary in California?

Good one I like it

posted on Nov, 15 2019 @ 07:16 PM
Is there not a catchy Disney song about Let it Go

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