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4 Key Pieces of Evidence Undermining Arguments For Impeachment

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posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 09:16 PM
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Holy cow Batman.. is the msm still talking about impeachment.. now tv hearings lol.

Guys and gals we may want to check worldwide current events to try and figure out what they don’t want us to pay attention to. A couple things come to mind. A spiraling out of control federal deficit, a higher concentration of ufo sightings, the China trade war, definitely Hong Kong continuous riots in the streets in IRAQ. The list goes on and on, but ya impeachment hearings.....

Nah no blind sides coming our way.

Bread and entertainment given by the government, this sounds very Roman...




posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 09:18 PM
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a reply to: Grambler




You know hinted all of their deaths when Obama never sent them weapons


More whataboutism.

I can see it now. In the Senate, Trump's defense lawyers arguing BUT OBAMA! BUT HUNTER BIDEN! WHAT ABOUT HER EMAILS!

Yep, that should be the ticket to beat this impeachment! LOL



So super secret obstruction we can’t see yet


Like Trump's obstruction hasn't been in plain sight of everyone.



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Not whataboutism

It’s proving you are not really concerned about the deaths of Ukrainians

You are using them as political pawns, because you didn’t care that Obama threatened to withhold aid and never sent them weapons



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 09:25 PM
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Multiple witnesses with expertise in foreign policy and national security have reported that Trump's henchman Guilani had made it clear to Ukrainian officials that the only way they could buy a trip to Washington for the new President who desperately needs recognition was to investigate the Bidens.

This is shown in testimony after testimony with corroborating evidence. There is just no doubting these facts.



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 09:27 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: carewemust
Democrats say forget about Quid-Quo-Pro. They will now "get Trump" for Bribery and Extortion.

Maybe they're going to try and project Biden's crimes to Trump?


I think some of the Democrat BS so far has been attempts to shift guilt away from Biden 😁



All they're doing is setting the stage for when proof arrives that Obama/Biden REALLY DID DO what they are now accusing Trump of doing. What will be their defense when that evidence/proof is made public by the DOJ?



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 09:28 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Grambler




What obstruction?


The obstruction that the House leaders have promised to include in its articles of impeachment.

The Republicans know it's coming, yet they offer no defense.


Because it's a stupid charge being leveled by stupid people. If this is your idea of "justice", then you should move to some Communist sh!thole like Cuba or Venezuela.



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 09:29 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Then link them

And how do you explain people like volker andMorrison , both experts, testified to the contrary?

And Zelenskiy said this wasn’t the case


edit on 12-11-2019 by Grambler because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 09:29 PM
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One has to wonder though, just how incompetent the Barr DOJ is if they can't investigate on their own to discover these multiple crimes that the Bidens have apparently committed?



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 09:29 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
Multiple witnesses with expertise in foreign policy and national security have reported that Trump's henchman Guilani had made it clear to Ukrainian officials that the only way they could buy a trip to Washington for the new President who desperately needs recognition was to investigate the Bidens.

This is shown in testimony after testimony with corroborating evidence. There is just no doubting these facts.

LOL! Multiple witnesses who, by their own admission, know nothing other than a rumor they heard from someone else.



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 09:30 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Lets get statements from those Ukraine officials. Would Democrats believe them if they say there was no Giuliani quid-quo-pro?



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 09:39 PM
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🤦‍♂️ Rumors and feelings are all this investigation is going off of, and translations coming from opinions/feelings. From what I am going to guess, the democrats are going to try to persuade the tv cameras with the witnesses going off of hearsay and feelings and opinions. Again, what concerns me is what are BOTH the democrats and republicans trying to distract us from and or continue to divide the population thru politics. Something is up, usually when governments distract and divide there population something bad is happening. The AP and all major American news outlets have saturated the news cycle with this story, eclipsing any other important WORLD current events. I think it has to do with the treasury and or the Economy.

I have learned the first thing that comes to mind in politics usually is not the truth for the actions.



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 09:40 PM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan




Because it's a stupid charge being leveled by stupid people.


And the 4 talking points in the OP address charges that aren't leveled by stupid people?



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 09:48 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Trump didn't secure aid for Ukraine. Congress did.

White House counsel deemed Trump's move to withhold that aid illegal, and the State Department released about 25% of the aid before Trump even knew they did.
talkingpointsmemo.com...



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 09:51 PM
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Obama threatened to withhold aid while a hot war was going on

He never even sent weapons, nor pushed for congress to do so

You didn’t care at all about Ukrainians dying then

Pretty low to use soldiers deaths to make a political point like this



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 09:52 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

When do Republicans get to call their witnesses? Congress is only in session for 15 days between now, and Jan 2020!

The "Do Nothing's" Calendar: www.rollcall.com...



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 09:53 PM
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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Multiple witnesses with expertise in foreign policy and national security have reported that Trump's henchman Guilani had made it clear to Ukrainian officials that the only way they could buy a trip to Washington for the new President who desperately needs recognition was to investigate the Bidens.

This is shown in testimony after testimony with corroborating evidence. There is just no doubting these facts.

LOL! Multiple witnesses who, by their own admission, know nothing other than a rumor they heard from someone else.


A bit like your post then?

Multiple witnesses have direct knowledge of these facts.



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 09:54 PM
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Who? Fiona hill? Vindman?

I read their testimony and didn’t seem any proof of direct claims of trump making a quid pro quo

Perhaps you will post it



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 09:55 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Gryphon66

Lets get statements from those Ukraine officials. Would Democrats believe them if they say there was no Giuliani quid-quo-pro?


Apparently, the Ukrainians will do and say anything for the highest bidder. Currently that seems to be the Trump administration, but hey, everything’s a negotiation right?

Maybe the Dems will smarten up for once and just buy Zelensky’s loyalty like Trump did.



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 10:01 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: xuenchen

When do Republicans get to call their witnesses? Congress is only in session for 15 days between now, and Jan 2020!

The "Do Nothing's" Calendar: www.rollcall.com...


Schiff will block all Republican witnesses 👁️‍🗨️ 👁️ 👁️‍🗨️



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