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Supreme Court lets Sandy Hook shooting lawsuit go forward

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posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 01:05 PM
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Associated Press

This is a really big deal. News of the month really, even with all the circus going on in D.C. If you are a constitutionalist, and I know there are a handful left here on ATS, then this is one big case to keep an eye on from this point on.


The Supreme Court said Tuesday that a survivor and relatives of victims of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting can pursue their lawsuit against the maker of the rifle used to kill 26 people.

The justices rejected an appeal from Remington Arms, which argued it should be shielded by a 2005 federal law preventing most lawsuits against firearms manufacturers when their products are used in crimes.

The lawsuit says the Madison, North Carolina-based company should never have sold a weapon as dangerous as the Bushmaster AR-15-style rifle to the general public. It also alleges Remington targeted younger, at-risk males in marketing and product placement in violent video games.


The Supreme Court did not put a stop to this as I expected them to. This lawsuit is now ongoing and is going to set precedents.


The case is being watched by gun control advocates, gun rights supporters and gun manufacturers across the country because it has the potential to provide a roadmap for victims of other mass shootings to circumvent the federal law and sue the makers of firearms.


Department of Homeland Security rounding up weapons, Supreme Court going against gun manufacturers... something definitely changed with this current administration. The push-back on guns is in overdrive at the highest level.


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posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 01:08 PM
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This is what happens when your marketing campaign sucks.

Maybe ads should be properly edited and reviewed before putting them out there.

Such as their ad slogan of "Forces of opposition, bow down".

This isn't necessarily an assault on gun right or the 2nd, this is an issue caused by bad marketing which paved the way to this lawsuit.
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posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 01:08 PM
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I still fail to see how the gun manufacturers can be held in anyway complicit.

The Supreme's are way off the mark here.



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 01:16 PM
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There are more per year people killed with hammers than ARs.

When can we start suing Estwing and Stanley?



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 01:18 PM
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Ah, the ever elusive precedent. I postulate that all gun control laws currently on the books actually interferes with the ability of Congress to grant Letters of Marquis and Reprisals. That this was started and perpetuated by one particular political party and must therefore be under financial obligation to duly compensate my loss of security from their deliberate malfeasance.



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 01:21 PM
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First of all what is that holding up the gun ?

Secondly this is a ridiculous case of guns kill people not people kill people .

I hope the lower court rulings we’re just trying to save the plaintiffs humiliation .



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 01:22 PM
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a reply to: DAVID64

Or Ford, and Chevrolet? Pontiac? Maybe Kia and Toyota?



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 01:22 PM
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a reply to: Oraculi




This is a really big deal. News of the month really, even with all the circus going on in D.C. If you are a constitutionalist, and I know there are a handful left here on ATS, then this is one big case to keep an eye on from this point on.

why?
the 2nd says nothing about private companies
or have I read it wrong?

also
will the auto makers be held accountable for damages from their products?
knife makers?
rope manufacturers?



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 01:22 PM
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originally posted by: Oraculi

Associated Press

This is a really big deal. News of the month really, even with all the circus going on in D.C. If you are a constitutionalist, and I know there are a handful left here on ATS, then this is one big case to keep an eye on from this point on.


The Supreme Court said Tuesday that a survivor and relatives of victims of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting can pursue their lawsuit against the maker of the rifle used to kill 26 people.

The justices rejected an appeal from Remington Arms, which argued it should be shielded by a 2005 federal law preventing most lawsuits against firearms manufacturers when their products are used in crimes.

The lawsuit says the Madison, North Carolina-based company should never have sold a weapon as dangerous as the Bushmaster AR-15-style rifle to the general public. It also alleges Remington targeted younger, at-risk males in marketing and product placement in violent video games.


The Supreme Court did not put a stop to this as I expected them to. This lawsuit is now ongoing and is going to set precedents.


The case is being watched by gun control advocates, gun rights supporters and gun manufacturers across the country because it has the potential to provide a roadmap for victims of other mass shootings to circumvent the federal law and sue the makers of firearms.


Department of Homeland Security rounding up weapons, Supreme Court going against gun manufacturers... something definitely changed with this current administration. The push-back on guns is in overdrive at the highest level.



It looks like they will be targeting gaming next

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posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: seagull
I still fail to see how the gun manufacturers can be held in anyway complicit.

The Supreme's are way off the mark here.


They got the money and the wealth needs spread....

I guess the OxyContin lawsuit paved the way?

I don’t necessarily agree with the below article, but example of the mindset


The thousands of lawsuits against opioid companies, explained
The lawsuits could force drug manufacturers and distributors to pay for a crisis they helped cause
www.vox.com...

Last month, Purdue Pharma, the maker of OxyContin, tentatively agreed to pay as much as $12 billion to settle lawsuits it faces for its role in the opioid crisis. It would be the largest settlement related to the epidemic, which has contributed to the more than 700,000 drug overdose deaths in the US since 1999.



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 01:25 PM
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a reply to: Robbo2006

If this is a valid case, then they certainly should, should they not?? [/sarc]



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 01:26 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Oraculi




This is a really big deal. News of the month really, even with all the circus going on in D.C. If you are a constitutionalist, and I know there are a handful left here on ATS, then this is one big case to keep an eye on from this point on.

why?
the 2nd says nothing about private companies
or have I read it wrong?

also
will the auto makers be held accountable for damages from their products?
knife makers?
rope manufacturers?






posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 01:27 PM
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So this is the case among THOUSANDS of 2A cases they decided to hear, FINALLY, and they come up with this BS!??!!

I guess whatever it takes to distract the citizens from the economic implosion on the horizon...🤷‍♂️

I would hold on to your personal protection tightly in the months ahead.



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 01:29 PM
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Funny how the country is ran by lawyers, and policy is pushed that brings more lawsuits that lawyers profit from.



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 01:30 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: seagull
I still fail to see how the gun manufacturers can be held in anyway complicit.

The Supreme's are way off the mark here.


They got the money and the wealth needs spread....

I guess the OxyContin lawsuit paved the way?

I don’t necessarily agree with the below article, but example of the mindset


The thousands of lawsuits against opioid companies, explained
The lawsuits could force drug manufacturers and distributors to pay for a crisis they helped cause
www.vox.com...

Last month, Purdue Pharma, the maker of OxyContin, tentatively agreed to pay as much as $12 billion to settle lawsuits it faces for its role in the opioid crisis. It would be the largest settlement related to the epidemic, which has contributed to the more than 700,000 drug overdose deaths in the US since 1999.

that seems a fair comparison
tho the pill makers do not have the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, yet.......

the first judge allowed the manufacturer the immunity, it was turned upon appeal..... we will see how it ends



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 01:30 PM
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originally posted by: Robbo2006



It also alleges Remington targeted younger, at-risk males in marketing and product placement in violent video games.



I know from experience, that even mentioning video games in the same breath as mass shootings is a recipe for a pile on. But if this gets traction, kids might have to go back to pong.



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 01:31 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

While I'm board with the overuse and over subscription to all manner of drugs, opioids included, this holding companies accountable for mismanaged use, or abuse, that is outside their control is lunacy. Period.



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 01:33 PM
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a reply to: network dude

I loved Pong....

all these cases do is try to mitigate the mistakes, if not outright stupidity, of others by blaming someone, anyone, else.



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 01:35 PM
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What's going on with the Supreme Court. This lawsuit should of been thrown out. Bushmaster AR-15 (semi-auto rifle) is no more dangerous, than other semi-auto rifles. I haven't seen any advertisement for AR-15 semi-auto rifles. I don't know of any gun mfg that pays to have it's weapons placed in video games. If these idiots win this lawsuit, it will open the floodgates for people suing other mfg.

Let's sue cutlery mfg for selling sharp dangerous cutlery to the general public. Let's sue vehicle mfg for making it too easy for drunk drivers to drive drunk.



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 01:35 PM
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I wonder if the rifle had been a Colt or Bushmaster, how that would have flew, being the largest suppliers for the Police. Would the gov have allowed it's own weapons factory basically to be sued?
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