New San Francisco DA...we wont charge for soliciting sex...

a reply to: roadgravel

Anything that clean has no soul. What I found amusing in that video was around the halfway point you see a janitor walk around the cop with a dustpan and broom. Where is all the trash coming from or is that guy just sweeping up
Embers from the endless fire that is California.

All of this is too much control. Let people be. I was just last week in Mexico City and the historic downtown area was amazingly clean. It was clean because they seem to have created jobs to constantly clean these areas. Instead of restricting our rights why don’t we find a way to employ more people to labor as gateway jobs.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Solicitation of sex shouldn't be illegal in the first place. Why is it the government's business what two consenting adults do? Plus, by legalizing and regulating the industry you'll get rid of the seedier elements and provide a safer environment for the workers.

I would agree. Like the whole question of herb legalization. Better to regulate and tax it than have it underground.

Reminds me of when I worked in Fresno. When the "Promise Keepers" convention was in town the spike in prostitution related arrests would skyrocket. No group, left, right, alien seems immune for to love by the hour so why fight it?

a reply to: Mach2

It's not just that.

How many of us have any clue just how dangerous the life of a street walker is?? The vast majority aren't doing it for the LOL's of it.

They are ready made victims, all but gift wrapped and waiting for the next psycho to drive or walk up, and that's leaving the likelihood that their pimp is not exactly a saint either.

Look up the Green River Killer, many, if not all, his victims were prostitutes. At least the ones we know of...odds are there are many, many others he murdered.

A prostitute removed from the street, however temporarily, is a girl that may live to get out of that life.

Morality is only part of it. Maybe not even the largest.

a reply to: grey580

When you regulate and mandate medical screenings for STD's then the STD rate goes down. This has happened in the past and it's been documented that STD rates do go down.

in some instants regulations do work to a point. but when government regulates it's guaranteeing that it get it portion of the cash cow. they don't do it for their constituents.

a reply to: TheAlleghenyGentleman

Yeah, government to clean up after people instead of people doing right by not littering.

That's today's world.

Seems littering is now acceptable.

Thing is that in all this discussion, no one is addressing the point. They aren't talking about cleaning the trade up. As someone mentioned, Nevada has standards. What this DA is talking about is simply not charging people engaged in what they're doing now. So nothing will fundamentally change except for a criminal stat -- it'll look like someone reduced prostitution.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Solicitation of sex shouldn't be illegal in the first place. Why is it the government's business what two consenting adults do? Plus, by legalizing and regulating the industry you'll get rid of the seedier elements and provide a safer environment for the workers.

is that what going on here? By turning a blind eye to prostitution you think that will clean up the industry? LOL, you are a special one.

Population control. STD's, then plague. Well played San Fran. Do your part to bring down those numbers.

"We will not prosecute cases involving quality-of-life crimes," he said. "Crimes such as public camping, offering or soliciting sex, public urination, blocking a sidewalk, etc., should not and will not be prosecuted. Many of these crimes are still being prosecuted; we have a long way to go to decriminalize poverty and homelessness.”

www.foxnews.com...

I agree that arresting or fining a homeless person doesn't solve the problem.

The laws are still on the books, so there are measures that can be taken short of prosecution in the courts.

Prostitution should be legal, taxed, and regulated.

Ages ago - - but, today is better than never.

a reply to: network dude

By turning a blind eye to prostitution you think that will clean up the industry?

You don't need to turn a blind eye to it if it's legal. They should just make it legal already

'sides network, prostitution is just Quid Pro Quo with a pro

I thought there was nothing wrong with that?

These are confusing times

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

As usual it depends on the situation.

But you're right that they will get a few bucks out of it in licensing fees.

a reply to: Spiramirabilis

If that's what you want, go to Nevada. It's technically still illegal in Cali and so your "pro" will still be the same drug-addled, disease ridden underage trafficked person she always was who's being exploited by her pimp.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

.....but when government regulates it's guaranteeing that it get it portion of the cash cow.....

What exactly is wrong with that?

Most street prostitutes pay no tax and will probably receive some sort of benefit.
Legalising it will take them out of the benefit system and they will become tax paying citizens just like the vast majority of folk.

Just one of the numerous benefits of legalisation.

So again, where's the problem?

a reply to: Freeborn

Exactly. Right now we are paying alot to criminalize sex work:

1) Policing. Cost tax payer money to round up, enforce etc etc. Not to mention the cost of incarceration and the court costs etc.

2) Medical: Both for the the sex workers and their patrons. Most will at some point get sick and who pays for those without healthcare? yep us.

3) Post Sex work: May end up on social services which again yep paid for by taxpayers.

4) Sex trafficking: again $$$$ to police it

We are already paying a ton. Its really a win win: Safer environment for the workers, legitimate income, pays taxes, safer medical situation vis a vie STD's and the like.

Time to legalize

a reply to: ketsuko

Not to mention the danger posed by some of the "johns".

Green River. Red Jack a/k/a Jack the Ripper. Etc... God alone knows how many serial killers preyed on prostitutes over the millennia, or got their start with them.

So now you can solicit sex and piss in public with no worries in beautiful San Francisco. Just be careful not to step on the turds and syringes. The city by the bay!

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Like most things if you don’t want to pay for sex or be paid for it ... don’t.

Somebody always pays. It's just a matter of when and how.

But San Francisco probably just doesn't have the manpower to deal with these minor offenses. They have people out there eating sandwiches in public! It's an epidemic I tell ya!

a reply to: ketsuko

If that's what you want, go to Nevada. It's technically still illegal in Cali and so your "pro" will still be the same drug-addled, disease ridden underage trafficked person she always was who's being exploited by her pimp.

Seems a little judge-y

It's the oldest profession ketsuko - you can outlaw it, but that won't make it go away

Might as well make it legal. It's easier to protect people. Unless you're somehow against regulations?

Now that you mention it - what did regulations ever do for us? Besides give us a cleaner, safer environment

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Solicitation of sex shouldn't be illegal in the first place. Why is it the government's business what two consenting adults do? Plus, by legalizing and regulating the industry you'll get rid of the seedier elements and provide a safer environment for the workers.

Wouldn't legalizing and regulating that still put the government in people's "bedrooms"?

Since regulation means oversight..

San FranFeces

originally posted by: SKEPTEK
San FranFeces

Ban Francisco.