Televised Impeachment Inquiry Nov. 13th. I invite ATS members to utilize this thread

a reply to: Ahabstar

By the way Ahabstar i read and found an interesting vox article from last year and yes i know its a vox article but i what found interesting about this article is that in it almost seems like they "Liberals" were predicating a civil war, when at the bottom of the artlice they used the words very carefully like.

"Either America becomes a land of immigration or it becomes a land of blood and soil"

This is sort of things that you would normally not find on a article when they are discussing about immigration issues. I will share it later on today.

a reply to: Pyle
Still; Obama still told Russia that they now had more strategic flexibility against Ukraine which resulted in the invasion of Crimea with many innocent lives lost, there was no reason for Obama to give Russia that information so they could more easily plan the timeline of their invasion.

Looks bad for Obama, on the surface (i know the problem is deeper than this) it looks like Obama supported the invasion by giving Russia that big of a strategic advantage

a reply to: Sookiechacha

This whole Ukrainian anti-corruption actually means not allowing any Pro Russian potical parties into the country. That is what it means.

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: Sookiechacha

Biden was very clear that he said you have six hours, if you dont agree to fire shokin, you get no money.

Thats "do this or esle"

So you admit he committed extortion.

It was the public position of the US, many European countries, and the IMF, The IMF being where the money was going to come from.

So extortion is ok if the IMF says it is?

originally posted by: olaru12
ATS trump supporters don't seem to be worried, but guess who is?

www.rawstory.com...

Those are just tests to see if FB takes anything down 😎

Damn! Chris Stewart just said that if Corruption is an issue it is the law that aid should be with held. lol

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: Sookiechacha

Biden was very clear that he said you have six hours, if you dont agree to fire shokin, you get no money.

Thats "do this or esle"

So you admit he committed extortion.

It was the public position of the US, many European countries, and the IMF, The IMF being where the money was going to come from.

So extortion is ok if the IMF says it is?

Its the IMF's money they can put any conditions they want on their money.

originally posted by: olaru12
ATS trump supporters don't seem to be worried, but guess who is?

www.rawstory.com...

Yeah, that site reaaaaally look to be the one to read for unbiased Trump news, come on

a reply to: JesperA

flexibility against Ukraine which resulted in the invasion of Crimea with many innocent lives lost, there was no reason for Obama to give Russia that information so they could more easily plan the timeline of their invasion.

Much of Eastern Ukraine and Crimea is around 90 Eastern Slavic/Slavs who are born in Ukraine historical align themselves with Russian historical root.

There was not much that the west could do about Crimea. If the people in Crimea wanted to be closer with Russia why cant the west just accpet the results of their referendum?

It seems the ATS narrative is trying to spin it to Biden and Obama. Perhaps they should indite Hillary first like they promised then go after the rest.

originally posted by: olaru12
It seems the ATS narrative is trying to spin it to Biden and Obama. Perhaps they should indite Hillary first like the promised then go after the rest.

nope
lack of actual evidence and a lot of hearsay

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: Sookiechacha

Biden was very clear that he said you have six hours, if you dont agree to fire shokin, you get no money.

Thats "do this or esle"

So you admit he committed extortion.

It was the public position of the US, many European countries, and the IMF, The IMF being where the money was going to come from.

So extortion is ok if the IMF says it is?

But it wasn't the IMF threatening to withhold aid, it was Biden . Who also stated that Obama backed him up.

So, did Biden have control over what the IMF did?

originally posted by: Wayfarer
a reply to: Grambler

Nobody has correlated any information intimating Biden acted in a manner unbecoming of a State official.


The same cannot be said for Trump and co.

Yes there are people intimating that; havent you watched this testimony? The republicans are

How do we know what Bidens motivations were? Kent and Taylor just admitted out of hundreds of corrupt government officials in countries we give aid, a president or vice president has never before conditioned aid based on firing a prosecutor.

The one time it has ever happened, it happened to be Biden forcing the fire of a prosecutor who was leading an investigation into his sons company.

that warrants an investigation.

a reply to: ChefFox

There was not much that the west could do about Crimea. If the people in Crimea wanted to be closer with Russia why cant the west just accpet the results of their referendum?

Yep, Russia as long been known as beacon of free and independent elections!

LOL

originally posted by: highvein
Damn! Chris Stewart just said that if Corruption is an issue it is the law that aid should be with held. lol

Good point Chris Stewart!

a reply to: ChefFox
Sure, but then they should try to enforce the referendum by diplomacy first & invasion at the very last resort (if at all), now it was reversed, invasion first, diplomacy after the invasion

originally posted by: olaru12
It seems the ATS narrative is trying to spin it to Biden and Obama. Perhaps they should indite Hillary first like the promised then go after the rest.

Maybe that is because there is actual evidence that supports the allegations that Biden/Obama committed extortion by threatening to withhold foreign aid to Ukraine unless they fire the prosecutor who was investigating Burisma (gas company that had Biden's son on the board).

Thanks to you and Sookie for further clarifying all of this!

what is QPQ

the dems are cheering for hearsay

wow


some evidence


what a pile of hot garbage

go get your shineboxes dems

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Yep, Russia as long been known as beacon of free and independent elections!

Yes and i am sure America has being known beacon of free and independent elections and countries being independent right?


"Libya, Iraq,Balkans"
Come to mind.

Americans always love to use regime changes in other countries while screaming democracy and freedom.