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originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician
I have seen posts from people saying if Trump is impeached they would take up arms.
originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician
originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician
I'm not trying to ditch this conversation, but I have to go to work. Later I might try and find the examples.
I said that I do agree, some of the left have taken it too far..I just think at this point, if the tables were turned, it would be the same.
That's fair. Regardless of your beliefs...I respect your right to your opinion and your right to say what you want, whether I agree with it or not.
originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck
originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician
I have seen posts from people saying if Trump is impeached they would take up arms.
If Trump is impeached in the house, the Senate will shut it down. So this is a mute point. Now the question what will the left do when they loose the house and Trump is reelected?
originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician
I have seen posts from people saying if Trump is impeached they would take up arms.
originally posted by: BarcsI generally agree, but you are ASSUMING fabrication. If the investigation finishes and they find nothing and it turns out the whistle blower lied and the dems made it all up, then I'll agree with you, but Pelosi put off the impeachment inquiry for a long time despite being pressured to do it much sooner, because she wanted to be sure there was something that could stick and specifically did not want to risk looking bad and getting Trump re-elected. I highly doubt they have nothing.
What laws did the last administration break, and why were they not held accountable? If Obama broke the law, I'd be arguing to investigate him as well. Also don't forget Trump hasn't actually been impeached yet, they are doing their preliminary investigation. It could come up empty and they might not have anything to impeach him on, but I'm at least going to wait until the investigation is done before judging. When Nixon was forced to resign they called it a witch hunt and everything else, but the Dems were right.
Yeah, both sides do it, not just Dems, not just Repubs. Partisanship is one of the biggest problems we currently face as a nation. Both parties are super polarizing. The last 2 presidents were attacked nonstop by the opposing parties. Don't forget Trump was one of the biggest advocates of that whole nonsensical birth certificate witch hunt, so maybe karma is coming back around.
A large amount of democrats are basically moderate Republicans now. Even Obama & Bill Clinton leaned a little right fiscally based on their policies. Bush / Trump were both very far right and very authoritarian. If you look them up on the political compass, you'll see that they are barely left and how the spectrum has been shifting to the authoritarian right since Reagan. The actual people who are on the left are Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Jill Stein etc. Repubs aren't pandering to moderates they are sticking with their base, while Dems have failed to do that. When they ignored the will of the people and made Clinton the nominee last election instead of Bernie, it bit them in the ass and got Trump elected because they didn't vote in protest. I just hope they don't make the same mistake this year, although it seems like they fixed that problem with super delegates, but I'll believe it when I see it.
I couldn't agree more with this. Both parties need to move past championing all the divisive polarizing issues and work together for a better tomorrow. This is why I hate the 2 party system, they are extreme opposites and as a result barely accomplish anything. IMO they should have 4 parties instead of 2 mega parties that are mostly corporate funded. I'm tired of voting lesser of 2 evils every election.
originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck
originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician
I have seen posts from people saying if Trump is impeached they would take up arms.
If Trump is impeached in the house, the Senate will shut it down. So this is a mute point. Now the question what will the left do when they loose the house and Trump is reelected?
originally posted by: Barcs
originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck
originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician
I have seen posts from people saying if Trump is impeached they would take up arms.
If Trump is impeached in the house, the Senate will shut it down. So this is a mute point. Now the question what will the left do when they loose the house and Trump is reelected?
If the republican controlled senate refuses to impeach IF evidence shows he's guilty, they will look very bad and you can guarantee the republicans lose both the house, the senate and the presidency, because the American people might be dumb but not that dumb, where they will look past criminal actions by our president.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Barcs
originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck
originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician
I have seen posts from people saying if Trump is impeached they would take up arms.
If Trump is impeached in the house, the Senate will shut it down. So this is a mute point. Now the question what will the left do when they loose the house and Trump is reelected?
If the republican controlled senate refuses to impeach IF evidence shows he's guilty, they will look very bad and you can guarantee the republicans lose both the house, the senate and the presidency, because the American people might be dumb but not that dumb, where they will look past criminal actions by our president.
So you think the left is holding on to some aces and hasn't released the real reason for impeachment yet? Because if that isn't the case, then how people feel about third hand information, might not be the silver bullet you seem to think it is.
originally posted by: Barcs
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Barcs
originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck
originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician
I have seen posts from people saying if Trump is impeached they would take up arms.
If Trump is impeached in the house, the Senate will shut it down. So this is a mute point. Now the question what will the left do when they loose the house and Trump is reelected?
If the republican controlled senate refuses to impeach IF evidence shows he's guilty, they will look very bad and you can guarantee the republicans lose both the house, the senate and the presidency, because the American people might be dumb but not that dumb, where they will look past criminal actions by our president.
So you think the left is holding on to some aces and hasn't released the real reason for impeachment yet? Because if that isn't the case, then how people feel about third hand information, might not be the silver bullet you seem to think it is.
I'm not claiming that. I'm saying that IF it is legit and senate ignores it over party lines, then it will be a very bad optic for them. You are the one assuming it's got no substance while the investigation is still going. You can't imagine your godlike savior of Trump being wrong about something or doing an illegal action. It's just unthinkable to you because you are so deceived.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Barcs
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Barcs
originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck
originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician
I have seen posts from people saying if Trump is impeached they would take up arms.
If Trump is impeached in the house, the Senate will shut it down. So this is a mute point. Now the question what will the left do when they loose the house and Trump is reelected?
If the republican controlled senate refuses to impeach IF evidence shows he's guilty, they will look very bad and you can guarantee the republicans lose both the house, the senate and the presidency, because the American people might be dumb but not that dumb, where they will look past criminal actions by our president.
So you think the left is holding on to some aces and hasn't released the real reason for impeachment yet? Because if that isn't the case, then how people feel about third hand information, might not be the silver bullet you seem to think it is.
I'm not claiming that. I'm saying that IF it is legit and senate ignores it over party lines, then it will be a very bad optic for them. You are the one assuming it's got no substance while the investigation is still going. You can't imagine your godlike savior of Trump being wrong about something or doing an illegal action. It's just unthinkable to you because you are so deceived.
Please tell me what else I think. Damn, you must be super at mind reading and all that.
Is there a class you leftovers take to learn how to be this dense, or is it natural?
originally posted by: incoserv
The United States is clearly in the midst of a massive constitutional crises and an ongoing coup d'état. If we the people let it happen and do not resist, we deserve whatever we get.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Deplorable
Oh. A meme.
How cute.