Us supporting coup in bolivia

a reply to: myselfaswell

Well put ILLEGAL THEFT OF RESOURCES FROM AN INDEPENDENT SOVEREIGN STATE BY ONE OF THE GRUBBIEST COUNTRIES ON THE PLANET.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: pexx421

Bolivia isnt really a socialist state.

They are a mix like Scandinavian nations. But there is more opportunity for private enterprise there. So yea, its a little too socialists for US standards. A wave of conservatism is sweeping south America, this was in the books.

He nationalized almost all the commodities they export, and the power companies. Since that demand has waned, and the infrastructure is still crap, you see the result.

Couple that with whats going on in Venezuela, and Natural gas isn't getting shipped like it used to. Chile has been hostile for a while, and Argentina has been unstable.

Not to mention his need to control the business of natural resource extraction so he can fund those social programs has also made things worse. He's had offers from China, Japan, and S.Korea for Lithium mining investing, and he's rejected it. So that influx of money now goes towards Chile and Peru.

So we see Tropico 6 playing out before our eyes, again.

a reply to: Wardaddy454

It's like outside influences have been putting pressure on them.

I think you should look at a tiny little nation called Trinidad and see what happened to them. How they made it 'work'. Hint: oil.

Furthermore, south america is one of the last frontiers of exploitation, and the US has been trying to get it's grubby hands all over it since forever.

A united South America would be an absolute powerhouse in economics. Just think about that.

Some interesting things after occurring on Twitter. Search for "Friends from everywhere, in Bolivia there was NO COUP" on Twitter and see how many identical posts are being made by new users.

Meanwhile the hashtag #NoHayGolpeBolivia is trending in Virginia for some reason. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that the CIA is headquartered in Langley, VA.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Wardaddy454

It's like outside influences have been putting pressure on them.

I think you should look at a tiny little nation called Trinidad and see what happened to them. How they made it 'work'. Hint: oil.

Furthermore, south america is one of the last frontiers of exploitation, and the US has been trying to get it's grubby hands all over it since forever.

A united South America would be an absolute powerhouse in economics. Just think about that.

Or, back when Bolivia's economy was doing good, China hadn't already bought all the mines and wells they could. Now that China has done so, they don't need Bolivia. And with such a one dimensional economy, nationalized for the sake of hegemony, without a thought to diversification, they collapse.

But no. Its far easier to blame the bogeyman, instead of admitting that Morales made a booboo.

a reply to: Wardaddy454

I'm interested.

When has China been heavily involved in Bolivia?

We support coups and fight for democracy for one reason and one reason alone: our corporations' demand access to a countries "natural resources" and they refuse to give it to us.

Just found this:

coup comes less than a week after pulling out of lithium deal

Things are heating up down there.

a reply to: underwerks

The CIA has its own agendas, it is really not obedient to Congress, it does as it damn well pleases ever since the beginning.

So the point is that to them, it matters not whether democrats or republicans.

a reply to: myselfaswell

By what I heard, the now ousted pres was gonna make it that the lithium couldn't be sold outside of the country, only products containing lithium components could be exported. Which meant jobs for the people!@

a reply to: dawnstar

What I read was that he would not sign the contracts with the transnational corporations, he wanted to change the numbers, as people do when entering into contracts.

Morales wanted a bigger cut of the profits, as it were. About a week after he refused to sign came the coup and his resignation.

a reply to: 0zzymand0s

Yep. So use military and murder to get your resources. The Merican way!

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Wardaddy454

I'm interested.

When has China been heavily involved in Bolivia?

www.smh.com.au...

thekootneeti.in...

en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: underwerks

Maybe one day people will wise up to the fact that any corporate controlled media isn’t “Liberal”.

Please don't hold your breath.

And the saddest thing is they probably know exactly what they are doing. They know the best ways to divide us and have been following a playbook for a while now.

Will we wake up in time?

a reply to: ClovenSky

I think that waking up is not a simple going from unawareness to awareness. It is more a process of paying attention to a greater context than we have in the past. In this we, as a species may be gaining in awareness while at the same time we as individuals are gaining in awareness as well. Here though, as individuals, we do not start from the same place nor as that is the case, become more aware of the same things as others around us. I wake up to this and you wake up to that while others wake up to any number of things that are out of my realm and likely yours. I guess.

As a species though you ask a good question. Will enough of us who are ''waking'' up as individuals manage to coalesce in agreement on which of the many possibilities that present themselves to us . At times I doubt it though part of my own individual wakening is the wakening to hope, that without that hope my own life is meaningless.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

But if we are waking up in stages and there won't be a critical mass necessary, it will just be piecemeal bit by bit, how the hell are they so organized?

I mean if you really traveled down the path of conspiracy theory, their chess moves have been brilliant so far. They are slowly boiling us alive with none of us the wiser. We sit here and bicker over stupid stuff day in and day out while they divide us further. They pretend to be separate entities but I am even starting to doubt there are ANY independent countries across this globe.

I am just struggling at the moment. I see all of the petty bickering back and forth on Ds & Rs. It is like everyone wants their nice easy dose of entertainment without actually losing any comfort. Is it wrong to contemplate the path of not even caring anymore? Maybe even deranged to the point of cheering on the oligarchs as they enslave us. There has to be some point where the realization comes that maybe we don't deserve freedom. We deserve exactly what history has always given us...a ruler that will tell us how it is going to be.

Do we even deserve freedom? If we were given freedom, how long would it take to piss it down our legs? A single generation? Maybe 2 at the most?

originally posted by: lakenheath24
Ya know...things like this make it difficult for me to poo poo Russia over the alleged election interference.

Do you have any idea how many elections the US had meddled in, in how many countries? Easily hundreds of elections in dozens of countries.

We are the absolute last nation on Earth who has any right to get pissy about some other nation trying to influence things.

Not supposed. It went down.

Democratize your resources or try to develop said resources into a final product that your country can sell on the international market. I'm not calling our mans' a choir boy, but he made a fatal mistake. Coup time.

Got our man hidin out in Mexico....

Got some ol' bullsnip "Senator" to "conviently(sp)" step in and say she's now the president. And that she will gladly sell the souls of her countrymen for a large sum of money to keep that lithium resources following.

And, *drum roll* our new puppet is backed by the military.

Terrible and this is how it's always been done.

a reply to: ClovenSky

Hopefully without sounding trite, I gettit.

Independent countries I think to be a thing of the past, yet the notion of independent nations serve a purpose. The real ''they'' being the global rulers. To me those rulers are the international corporations. And while they may still to some degree seem independent entities, they are all playing by the same economic rules. Rule one.... Hide behind the notion of independent countries...Nuber two.... Hide behind the notion that there are still national corporations such as American industry or German industry etc. Ferk. They are all playing in the international market place while we squabble over individual patriotism and just which party is more patriotic than the other. Bollox.

a reply to: pexx421

Ironic that nowhere in that link do they give the so called "recordings"... The only thing they show is the Cuban dictatorship claiming that the helicopter of Morales was sabotaged...Again, without ANY EVIDENCE...

Go ahead and believe the lies from communists all you want. As it is, why don't you just move there to Bolivia, or Venezuela?...