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The Hopey Changey President versus the Drain the Swamp President

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posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 02:48 AM
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Maybe the problems of our country are NOT the people on the bottom. Maybe the problem is the people at the top rigging the system in their favor. You know the billionaires giving money to lobbyists. Then the lobbyists force the politicians to pass legislation creating cartels and monopolies, gutting consumer protections laws, and passing tax cuts for the top 1% all in exchange for campaign financing.

I agree with you all we have too much socialism in this country. I agree with you all we have too much communism in this country. I agree with you all government is the problem. I agree with you all we have a Soviet style single party government. The thing is what we have is not the kind of communism that helps the worker making the median wage. What we have is the kind of communism that only helps the CEO, billionaires, and corporations. What we have is CORPORATE COMMUNISM.

What I disagree with all you right wingers about is how we solve the corporate communism problem we have in this country. Smaller government only strengthens the corporate communists and their single party system. The way I see it, based on what FDR did after the Great Depression, the answer to fighting the corporate communists is MORE government not less. Government is the ONLY ANSWER. The words of FDR ring more true today than ever:

"An old English judge once said: 'Necessitous men are not free men.' Liberty requires opportunity to make a living - a living decent according to the standard of the time, a living which gives man not only enough to live by, but something to live for.

For too many of us the political equality we once had won was meaningless in the face of economic inequality. A small group had concentrated into their own hands an almost complete control over other people's property, other people's money, other people's labor - other people's lives. For too many of us life was no longer free; liberty no longer real; men could no longer follow the pursuit of happiness.

Against economic tyranny such as this, the American citizen could appeal only to the organized power of government."

I remember a lot of you had very harsh criticisms of Obama and the Obama administration. People would say, "How's that hopey changey thing coming along?" Well, the same is true with Trump. Just as I predicted in 2016 after Trump got elected I said NOTHING WILL CHANGE. So how is the, "Drain the swamp" project coming along? Just as I suspected, NOTHING HAS CHANGED!

I knew Obama would fail. I knew Trump would fail. This is because I'm not a moron. I believe in the words of George Carlin who said, "There's a reason". George Carlin is a genius who saw right through the veils of shameless propaganda:



NOTHING WILL CHANGE because the real owners of this country will not allow it. It doesn't matter if Trump gets impeached. It doesn't matter if Trump get's elected again in 2020. I will continue to predict at the end of 2024 the same as before NOTHING WILL CHANGE!

I guess Republicans can win if politics is only about idol worshiping who is in charge. So if Trump, our dear leader, survives impeachment, gets elected again in 2020, I guess their is some victory in political fandom. May the best fans win because when it comes to brass tax nothing will change.


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posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 02:56 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
Maybe the problems of our country are NOT the people on the bottom.

Why can't they get a job?

Why can't they put an effort into getting an education?

Why can't they set aside their lifestyle for a few years in order to gain a career?



posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 03:28 AM
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The biggest corporate communism is the Cartels paying into Democrat campaign funds bwaaaaaaahahahhahaha 不



posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 03:30 AM
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a reply to: Vector99

Yeah because its that easy? If only.



posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 03:30 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

But? Whatabout the Obama puppet idol who fooled millions !! 不不不不

A real knucklehead smif 不不不不不


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posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 03:40 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

You can't seem to let go of this communism socialism thing and posting about it. Trouble is your posts seem to be suffering from personality disorder. One day you like Mao and Stalin, the next day you're allegedly neutral, now you're an anarchist? I recommend Whig for the post tomorrow.

And what? You want to tax brass? Why tax our decorative metal? When it comes down to brass tacks nobody will go for a tax on brass. We might consider a tariff on it, but no tax.



posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 03:57 AM
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And when you say nothing will change I disagree. Your estimations seem short sighted and lack the affects changing technology will bring, along with AI (artificial intelligence) And because I'm an optimist.



posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 03:58 AM
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originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: dfnj2015
Maybe the problems of our country are NOT the people on the bottom.

Why can't they get a job?

Why can't they put an effort into getting an education?

Why can't they set aside their lifestyle for a few years in order to gain a career?



If you are homeless? lifestyle??...

- you spend most of your time just trying to survive (find somewhere to get food, create/find shelter)
- you have NO money so purchasing anything isn't possible (decent clothes, access to communication, medication, etc.)
- you can't leave your stuff to go anywhere as it will get stolen
- you can't apply for a job without an address
- you are not mobile to move anywhere else without money or means
- you don't necessarily get help from government for any of this
- your friends, at that point, are in the same exact situation and just as desperate

Why is the right always so predictable in it's inability to actually look at the complexity and desperation of the situation. If you aren't even on the ladder, you can't climb rungs.



posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 04:19 AM
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It is true about our Social Security money.
Read this: www.ssa.gov...

Yes, if you collect a foreign pension , SS will deduct so much out of your American SS. I know, I live overseas.



posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 04:34 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

This is internet blasphemy!
You are here by barred from using George Carlin any where on the web
ever again. I'm sending you tiny inter web spider bots to eat all your
electronics and your food. And drink all your beer. So you have to go
to the store.



posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 05:02 AM
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a reply to: okrian

The right believes only lazy drug addicts become homeless. Not people who lost their house when the market tanked. Or the people who couldn't afford rent because prices have doubled. Or the people laid off by corporations whose CEOs took millions and millions in bonuses while firing thousands of employees.



posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 05:47 AM
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originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: okrian

The right believes only lazy drug addicts become homeless. Not people who lost their house when the market tanked. Or the people who couldn't afford rent because prices have doubled. Or the people laid off by corporations whose CEOs took millions and millions in bonuses while firing thousands of employees.

Actually , most are urban survivalists by choice.
They once were part of the "rat race" and opted out.



posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 05:54 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
I agree with you all government is the problem.


originally posted by: dfnj2015
Government is the ONLY ANSWER.



You contradict yourself and make absolutely no sense. Why are you trying to tell us what to believe?



posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 08:41 AM
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originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: Vector99

Yeah because its that easy? If only.

Yes, it really is.



posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 08:47 AM
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The President and first lady that are shamed because of America and want to fundamentally transform it versus the President who puts America first and drains the swamp.



posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 08:48 AM
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originally posted by: okrian

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: dfnj2015
Maybe the problems of our country are NOT the people on the bottom.

Why can't they get a job?

Why can't they put an effort into getting an education?

Why can't they set aside their lifestyle for a few years in order to gain a career?



If you are homeless? lifestyle??...

- you spend most of your time just trying to survive (find somewhere to get food, create/find shelter)
- you have NO money so purchasing anything isn't possible (decent clothes, access to communication, medication, etc.)
- you can't leave your stuff to go anywhere as it will get stolen
- you can't apply for a job without an address
- you are not mobile to move anywhere else without money or means
- you don't necessarily get help from government for any of this
- your friends, at that point, are in the same exact situation and just as desperate

Why is the right always so predictable in it's inability to actually look at the complexity and desperation of the situation. If you aren't even on the ladder, you can't climb rungs.

Ahh, this tired old played out argument.

The help is available in every town, city, state in this country.

You gotta give up the dope though, hence why I mentioned lifestyle change.

You knew that though, you just wanna get high and have someone else pay for you to exist...well if your mom and dad won't, then you need to fix you.

Change starts by talking to the man in the mirror



posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 08:59 AM
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When Kanye West gets a 68 million dollar tax refund (no wonder he's so enamored with Trump) and Amazon owned by one of the richest men in the world pays no taxes you know there is a problem.

The people making the most gains from Trump's tax plan are the rich. Meanwhile the average Joe is struggling to make ends meet. Let them eat cake? So much for trickle down economics eh? Trickle em down a few peanuts the peasants should be happy with that.

The bubble is gonna burst and soon America will see it's first trillionaire. How long til the peasants revolt? Pointing these issues out must make me a communist, class warfare hater of the rich though.



posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 09:07 AM
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originally posted by: Blueracer

originally posted by: dfnj2015
I agree with you all government is the problem.


originally posted by: dfnj2015
Government is the ONLY ANSWER.



You contradict yourself and make absolutely no sense. Why are you trying to tell us what to believe?


Why would you presume there is only one kind of government. Government is the problem. Government is the answer. Both can be true.


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posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015


What I disagree with all you right wingers about is how we solve the corporate communism problem we have in this country.


Most of them dont see that as a problem. For whatever reason they see taking power from government and handing it over to big corporations and the super rich as a better alternative. Even though they are less accountable than government.

I blame it on how theyd rather see themselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires, instead of a lower caste thats being exploited.

Pride is a mofo.



posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 09:21 AM
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originally posted by: Ksihkehe
a reply to: dfnj2015
You can't seem to let go of this communism socialism thing and posting about it. Trouble is your posts seem to be suffering from personality disorder. One day you like Mao and Stalin, the next day you're allegedly neutral, now you're an anarchist? I recommend Whig for the post tomorrow.


Maybe it's not me but some people have trouble with critical thinking skills. First, I never said I liked Mao or Stalin. I've been very consistent. I said I am socialist but there are many types. Some socialists are communists. I am not. However, I do think socialist public policies can address the obscene levels of wealth inequality in this country.

I see no problem in having some public policies designed to address the excesses or problems with laissez faire capitalism. Some people claim there's nothing we can do in terms of public policies to address the problems with laissez faire capitalism. I disagree and I believe there are lots public policies we can have to improve the lives of millions of people.

As far as being an anarchist you have a flaw in your logic. I think government has a role in making our lives better. Government is the only answer because government is the only institution strong enough and big enough to challenge the corporate interests. And at the same time I believe it will never happen because the owners of this country, the people who OWN you and me, simply will not allow it.

But you can keep clinging to the hope Trump is going to make your life better and drain the swamp. Good luck with that.


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