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As a matter of fact you agreed with my position why are you even debating me now ?
originally posted by: Fallingdown
Why are you leaving them out every time you try to use civil rights when my intent was only that laws were broken
I consider his position going up against a socialist movement that could lead to a centralized government and excessive taxation. Pretty much the same thing the tea party members fought for .
Then what is your position ?
Is your position that if anyone breaks a law in the process of expressing their self or giving their opinion.
Their position/opinion/ expression shouldn’t be acknowledged by anyone even the people that consider it their right to hear the position “?
originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: DBCowboy
It’s not stupid.
It was designed to make a statement and it worked .
We’re talking about it right now .
Someone having an anti Trump balloon doesn't mean they're a socialist, it means they don't like Trump. That's like if someone has a MAGA hat and someone calls them a fascist.
If they destroy property in the process, yes. There are plenty of ways to voice your opinion, you don't have to destroy property to do it.
Everyone heard his position, we're just saying he's a tool for how he went about it. The thread talks about it, the media talks about it,
and the court will acknowledge it when they determine his punishment.
Hat’s off Hoyt do what needs to be done and be willing to take the consequences!
originally posted by: Fallingdown
I’ve been through this for pages your next reply is Hoyt’s actions don’t compare to the members of the Boston tea party.
Just so you know they do in my eyes .
Your current position is rights apply to some people but not others.
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Fallingdown
I consider his position going up against a socialist movement that could lead to a centralized government and excessive taxation. Pretty much the same thing the tea party members fought for .
Then what is your position ?
Someone having an anti Trump balloon doesn't mean they're a socialist, it means they don't like Trump. That's like if someone has a MAGA hat and someone calls them a fascist.
Is your position that if anyone breaks a law in the process of expressing their self or giving their opinion.
If they destroy property in the process, yes. There are plenty of ways to voice your opinion, you don't have to destroy property to do it.
Their position/opinion/ expression shouldn’t be acknowledged by anyone even the people that consider it their right to hear the position “?
Everyone heard his position, we're just saying he's a tool for how he went about it. The thread talks about it, the media talks about it, and the court will acknowledge it when they determine his punishment.
originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: CriticalStinker
Your position now is if he damages something he doesn’t have the right. That means you’re selectively applying the first amendment .
Like I said that’s scary .
So does ANTIFA have the right to destroy property as part of expression?
Does this guy or any political extremist have the right to destroy someone's property as part of their expression? No.
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
So does ANTIFA have the right to destroy property as part of expression?
originally posted by: Fallingdown
Yes unlike you I don’t selectively apply constitutional rights and when I say something I mean it .
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
originally posted by: TheRedneck
Hoyt Hutchinson was attending a football game where Donald Trump also was in attendance...