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For anyone who has ever criticized communism this communist propaganda will change your mind

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posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 05:00 AM
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originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: gallop

Yeah wouldn't wanna live in a country with good social policies and everyone prospers.


I already do. And it's a real one.

haha sad? too bad.




posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 06:08 AM
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originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: gallop

Yeah wouldn't wanna live in a country with good social policies and everyone prospers.


You mean like Venezuela? China? North Korea?



posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 06:17 AM
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originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: KnoxMSP

Also go talk to the countless numbers of people who've been jailed for having possesed a plant how much freedom they have. And tell me how many people are in jail in Canada for their speech?


The fact that anyone can be arrested for their opinion, or criticism of something is wrong. I mean they arrested a 70yr old bus driver, for voicing his opinion on homosexuality. No hate speech, just "wrong speak".


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posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 06:20 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015


History has shown the people in power are not very good at sharing. So government is the only solution if we want to have a robust economy that serves the people and not the other way around.


Oh my dear lordy... you really don't see the contradiction right there?

People in power are not very good at sharing so the only solution is to give the people in power absolute power over everyone and everything? Really??? That's your solution???

The problem with socialism and communism is that when we give government ALL the power then the people have NO power and therefore get screwed every single time!!!
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posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 06:22 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

Thank you.

I have been trying to process the video and it is like being stuck in a box with walls with doors on all sides but no way to exit.

I guess speechless describes it.



posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 07:38 AM
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posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 08:21 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
So first of all because of my socialist public policy positions I have been labeled a communist many times. I've never thought of myself a communist but I do have a desire to temper the excesses of laissez faire capitalism with socialist public policies. History has shown the people in power are not very good at sharing. So government is the only solution if we want to have a robust economy that serves the people and not the other way around.



"History has shown the people in power are not very good at sharing."

So, by concentrating power in even FEWER hands under a socialist system you think you will make things better ?
Totally illogical.
Learn something. Google the word: "logic"

Furthermore, history EVERYWHERE ON THE PLANET disproves socialism/communism, for over 100 years.
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posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 08:23 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
For anyone who has ever criticized communism this communist propaganda will change your mind.


It didn't.



posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 08:25 AM
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originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: gallop

Yeah wouldn't wanna live in a country with good social policies and everyone prospers.


Coming from the guy that defends Mao the mass murderer....
Good social policies do not happen under communism/socialism.

Freedom is found only in Western societies, who caused the fall of the Iron Curtain, the greatest open air prison in history.

Your ignorance of history is breathtaking.
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posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 08:38 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: Anathros
Anyone that believes government is a solution is part of the problem.


Government is the ONLY solution in the words of FDR:

"An old English judge once said: 'Necessitous men are not free men.' Liberty requires opportunity to make a living - a living decent according to the standard of the time, a living which gives man not only enough to live by, but something to live for.

For too many of us the political equality we once had won was meaningless in the face of economic inequality. A small group had concentrated into their own hands an almost complete control over other people's property, other people's money, other people's labor - other people's lives. For too many of us life was no longer free; liberty no longer real; men could no longer follow the pursuit of happiness.

Against economic tyranny such as this, the American citizen could appeal only to the organized power of government."

Speech before the 1936 Democratic National Convention

You should watch the video. It's worth the price of admission.


Kinda hard to trust the man who orchestrated the biggest gold heist in history.



posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 08:44 AM
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Has any body here actually experienced communism?

Or are you just repeating things that you saw on tv or read on the internet?

I've lived under a pretty brutal communist government, and several varieties of socialism in various countries that ranged from incompetent to excellent, but i barely recognize some of the descriptions that people are using on this site of either of them.

Its like listening to somebody describing a book based on a tv mini series for teenagers that was broadcast in Japanese and then adapted into an English language movie for children.



posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 08:59 AM
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So first of all because of my socialist public policy positions I have been labeled a communist many times.


I wonder why....



The term "Communist state" is used by Western historians, political scientists and media to refer to these countries. However, contrary to Western usage, these states do not describe themselves as "communist" nor do they claim to have achieved communism—they refer to themselves as Socialist or Workers' states that are in the process of constructing socialism.[6][7][8][9]


en.wikipedia.org...



Unitary one-party socialist republic


When the state owns everything. It's sure socialist, but hardly a republic

And we've got a good taste of unitary one party rule since the last midterms, and it's hell bent on making up crimes to impeach.



1922–1990:
Federal Marxist–Leninist one-party socialist republic


USSR

People criticize COMMUNISM because it deserves to be criticized.

It's pure HELL for those that live under it.



posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 09:03 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

Government is the solution when pedos and child sex traffickers run it like Clinton. But if you want to make america great again, then you are not the solutions according to communists.
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posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 09:05 AM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: dfnj2015

Classic, it's a fair call, sexually frustrated people are more prone to acting out violently as that energy isn't released as is built up, unfortunately that release can be taken out onto other people.


Thanks Dr Phil. Now we know how to fix the world. The religious folk will not be happy though.



posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 09:07 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

What’s your favourite socialist country ?

Which country is doing socialism how you most prefer it?

Also... what is you occupation?
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posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 09:11 AM
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originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: dfnj2015

Has any body here actually experienced communism?

Or are you just repeating things that you saw on tv or read on the internet?

I've lived under a pretty brutal communist government, and several varieties of socialism in various countries that ranged from incompetent to excellent, but i barely recognize some of the descriptions that people are using on this site of either of them.

Its like listening to somebody describing a book based on a tv mini series for teenagers that was broadcast in Japanese and then adapted into an English language movie for children.



It's the old proverb about the grass is always greener..
It looks better but both depend on the dirt underneath...



posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 09:17 AM
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Um. In Marxist-Leninist-Maoist socialism, where the the grim and depressing is perpetual, sex is the only thing where there is fun and intimacy.



posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 09:21 AM
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History has shown the people in power are not very good at sharing. So government is the only solution if we want to have a robust economy that serves the people and not the other way around.


Could you please show me just one goverment that has ever cared about its people?

Goverment is people with more power than the rest of us, so they are not good at sharing, thats your own words, right??

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So you would prefer corporations instead of government, may I ask why ?


Why would corporations be any better? Just because one might not be able to make a decision about there own life, and needs slaveowners to control their every move, doesnt mean the rest of us "normal" people who can think for themself and are able to make decisions about their own life and how they want to live them, want to be part of any slavery system, where some people have more power and are immune to the laws the rest has to follow.
I dont give a crap if you need a slave master, that is your decision, just leave us who doesnt want to be a part of it, out of it.
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posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 09:21 AM
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As in socialism, communism has the propensity for some to be slackers where the many work hard towards a goal and a few game the system. Do you agree or not ?? Capitalism is all based on productivity. Make more, sell more, get paid more. Of course these are simple examples and in practice each is more involved.



posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 09:25 AM
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Don't you see President Trump trying to shatter this that has gone on too long.. ?

a reply to: dfnj2015

"
For too many of us the political equality we once had won was meaningless in the face of economic inequality. A small group had concentrated into their own hands an almost complete control over other people's property, other people's money"



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