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Why isnt Raelism a Secret Society, like Scientology, Masonry, Mormonism and Satanic Cults?

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posted on Nov, 8 2019 @ 08:07 PM
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Raëlism [a] (also known as Raëlianism or the Raëlian movement) is a UFO religion that was founded in 1974 by Claude Vorilhon (b. 1946), now known as Raël. The Raëlian Movement teaches that life on Earth was scientifically created by a species of humanoid extraterrestrials,which they call the "Elohim". Members of this species appeared human when having personal contacts with the descendants of the humans that they made. They purposefully misinformed early humanity that they were angels, cherubim,or gods. Raëlians believe that humans were created by extraterrestrials who informed humans of each era. [2] The founder of Raëlism believes he received the final message of the Elohim and that its purpose is to inform the world about Elohim and that if humans become aware and peaceful enough, they wish to be welcomed by them.

Japanese Raëlian character mascot

The Raëlian Church has a quasi-clerical structure of seven levels. Joining the movement requires an official apostasy from other religions. Raëlian ethics include striving for world peace, sharing, democracy and nonviolence. [3][4]

Raël founded Clonaid (originally Valiant Venture Ltd Corporation based in Canada) in 1997, but then handed it over to a Raëlian bishop, Brigitte Boisselier in 2000. [5] In 2002 the company said that an American woman underwent a standard cloning procedure that led to the birth of a daughter, Eve (b. 26 December 2002). Although few believe the claim, it nonetheless attracted national authorities and the mainstream media to look further into the Raëlians' cult status.

The Raëlians frequently claim the swastika as a symbol of peace, which halted Raëlian requests for territory in Israel, and later Lebanon,for establishing an embassy for extraterrestrials. The religion also uses the swastika embedded on the Star of David. [6]

Between 1991 and 2007, this symbol was often replaced by a variant star and swirl symbol in an attempt to improve public relations, particularly with Israel.

History

Further information: History of Raëlism

The beginnings of Raëlism are rooted in the experiences of a French former automobile journalist and race car driver Claude Vorilhon. In his books The Book Which Tells the Truth (1974) and Extraterrestrials Took Me to their Planet (1975), Vorilhon had alien encounters with beings who gave him knowledge of the origins of all major religions.

The movement traces its beginnings to a conference in Paris,France of two thousand people in 1974. [7]

From there, the MADECH organization was born. [7]

The name MADECH is a double acronym in the French language. It stands for "Movement for the Welcoming of the Elohim, Creators of Humanity" (Mouvement pour l‘accueil des Elohim, créateurs de l'humanité). [8]:p. 104 It also stands for "Moise a devancé Elie et le Christ" meaning "Moses preceded Elijah and the Christ". By 1976, Claude Vorilhon (called Raël) transformed MADECH into the International Raelian Movement. [9]

Demographics

Table of worldwide membership estimates

Date Estimate Scope Reference

1974 170 World International Raëlian Movement

[7]

1975 700 World Raël [8]:p. 122

1979 3,000 World Raël [8]:p. 323

1987-04-16 20,000 World Chicago Sun-Times [10]

1990-01-09 25,000 World The Wichita Eagle [11]

1992-08-28 30,000 40 countries US Raëlian Movement [12]

1993 35,000 World Dr. Susan J. Palmer [13]:p. 9

1995-05-04 45,000 World The Miami Herald [14]

1996-01-14 35,000 World The Miami Herald [15]

1997-06-19 35,000 85 countries

San Jose Mercury News

[16]

1997-08-12 35,000 85 countries The New York Times [17]

1998-01 27,000 67 countries

Australian Association for the Study of Religions

[18]

1998 40,000 80 countries University of Virginia [19]

1998 40,000 World St. Paul Pioneer Press [20]

2000-10-10 50,000 85 countries Washington Post [21]

2001-03-13 30,000 World 60 Minutes [22]

2001 55,000 World Dr. Susan J. Palmer [13]:p. 9

2001-06-30 55,000 84 countries CNN [23]

2002 55,000 World Dr. Susan J. Palmer [13]:p. 120

2002-08-14 55,000 84 countries Wired News [24]

2002-12-29 40,000 World Lexington Herald-Leader

[25]

2002-12-31 55,000 84 countries The Orlando Sentinel [26]

2002-12-31 55,000 World AP Worldstream [27]

2003-01-03 55,000 84 countries AAP General News [28]

2003-01-29 30,000 World University Wire [29]

2003-02-10 55,000 84 countries Japan Today [30]

2003 65,000 World Dr. Susan J. Palmer [13]:p. 120

2003-08-03 60,000 World Korea Times [31]

2004-03-16 60,000 90 countries Financial Times [32]

2004-03-26 80,000 World KLAS.com [33]

2004-04-23 60,000 World New Truth & TV Extra [34]

2005-03-13 60,000 World Japan Today [35]

2005-05-05 65,000 85 countries NBC 4 [36]

2005-11-18 60,000 92 countries Middle East Times [37]

2006-06-25 55,000 World The Daily Telegraph [38]

2006-12 65,000 86 countries

International Raëlian Movement

[7]

2010-11 14,192

World Includes only members whose identity (name) is traced

International Raëlian Movement (Leaked Documents)

[39]

2011-9 85,000 90 countries

International Raëlian Movement

[40]

2013-12 90,000 90 countries

International Raëlian Movement

[40]

2017-09 18,111

World Includes only members whose identity (name) is traced

International Raëlian Movement (Leaked Documents)

[41]

Membership estimates from various sources

Table of regional membership estimates

Date Estimate Scope Reference

1995 4,000 Japan University of Virginia [19]

1995 4,000 Quebec University of Virginia [19]

1995 10,000 Europe University of Virginia [19]

1996-01-14 50 Miami The Miami Herald [15]

1996-01-14 600 United States The Miami Herald [15]

2001-08-08 24 South Florida South Florida Sun-Sentinel [42]

2002-12-31 5,000 South Korea AP Worldstream [43]

2003-02-10 6,000 Japan Japan Today [30]

2003-02-12 20 or more Utah KSL-TV [44]

2003-04-04 1,000 United States Las Vegas Sun [45]

2003-04-20 50 Ireland Irish Independent [46]

2003-08-03 4,000 South Korea Korea Times [31]

2004-04-23 80 New Zealand New Truth & TV Extra [34]

2005-05-05 100 Southern California NBC 4 [36]

2006-06-04 200 Australia The Daily Telegraph [38]

From 1980 to 1992 Raël and his movement became increasingly global. In 1980 Claude Raël's fifth Raëlian book Sensual Meditation was published and formal publication of the Raëlian Messages in the Japanese language began [47] as part of the Raëlian mission to Japan. [13]:p. 64 Two years later,Africa became another target area in the mission to spread the Raëlian messages. [13]:p. 64

On 26 December 2002, Brigitte Boisselier,a Raëlian Bishop and CEO of a biotechnology company called Clonaid, announced the birth of baby Eve, supposedly the first-ever human clone. The announcement ignited much media attention, ethical debate, doubt, criticism, and claims of a hoax. Spokespeople for the movement, including Claude Vorilhon, have suggested that this is one of the first steps in achieving a more important agenda. They say that through cloning they can combine an accelerated growth process with some form of mind transfer,and in such, may achieve eternal life. [48][49]

Member hierarchy

See also: Raël, Glenn Carter, and Brigitte Boisselier

The structure of the Raëlian Church is hierarchical, with seven levels ascending from level 0 to level 6. [52]

The top four levels consist of "Guides". The level 6 guide, known as the "Guide of Guides", has the final say on who becomes a level 5 "Bishop Guide" or a level 4 "Priest Guide". [52] Bishops and priests promote lower-level members one level at a time




posted on Nov, 8 2019 @ 08:08 PM
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posted on Nov, 8 2019 @ 08:10 PM
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a reply to: PAUL35791

It could be because apparently they wrote all their teachings in bold type, which many people get turned off by so they stop reading after the first few paragraphs.



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posted on Nov, 8 2019 @ 08:17 PM
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Did you know, The Raelians aim to build a Temple for 144,000 people in Israel. They have been refused planning permission several times by Israelis to build their church. They have 200,000 Members.



posted on Nov, 8 2019 @ 08:24 PM
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a reply to: PAUL35791

Why isn’t it a secret society like the things you listed that aren’t secret societies?

That’s like asking why isn’t Mickey Mouse a dinosaur like Pluto, Donald Duck and Jerry (from Tom and Jerry).
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posted on Nov, 8 2019 @ 08:37 PM
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Yes. This is the Secret Society Forum, Einstein.



posted on Nov, 8 2019 @ 08:38 PM
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originally posted by: PAUL35791
Yes. This is the Secret Society Forum, Einstein.


Doesn’t make the groups you posted secret societies, because they aren’t. Secret societies are, well, secret. The ones you listed are VERY well known (that means not secret).



posted on Nov, 8 2019 @ 08:39 PM
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Maybe walking around in Mork and Mindy outfits with the hair and big necklace is too much of a giveaway to be secret.



posted on Nov, 8 2019 @ 08:42 PM
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Yes Terry. No Terry. 3 bags full Terry.



posted on Nov, 8 2019 @ 08:56 PM
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Because it is an unimportant cult.



posted on Nov, 8 2019 @ 08:56 PM
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Isnt their right of passage for women to have sex with the leader, all the while the passage for men was to let their women have sex with him?
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posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 01:04 AM
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Your ‘e’ isn’t dotted in the title of the thread.
I thought it was going to be a society of pragmatists.
Just put in the Hoax bin already.



posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 08:43 AM
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They didn't ask permission.



posted on Nov, 9 2019 @ 09:59 AM
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a reply to: PAUL35791

i feel a little ripped off that all of the bolded text of your OP is merely copy-pasta from the wiki page.

yes i read it and yes i am interested, but you just didn't do your due diligence.



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 07:49 PM
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I broke The Second Law of the Internet; never post when you have been drinking. The First Law is obviously Never Argue with a Female. The Third Law is Never Argue with a Flat Earther or Trump Supporter.
Still, its not the worst topic on here, by a long shot. Plus, Augustus looks like a Clone of Claude Rael. Spooky.



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 08:14 PM
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I suspect Freemasonry only became less secret when the Kabbalah Centre was open to the Public to join in Israel. Previously you had to be over 40, married, and 'Jewish' (most Jews are Russian that have no Semite Genes, thus the Race War in Israel, btw). Even the lower Degrees in FM involve Kabbalah, which is Jewish Witchcraft. Obviously Mormonism is related to FM and is largely untrue. Half the Kabbalah is probably untrue for that matter. Probably Ron Hubbard and Parsons were involved in SS and Masonry. There is the Primitive Faith that Good is the same as Evil, God is a Light Bulb, and you don't get any punishment for Evil in these Kabbalah Faith Based Cults.
As for Realism. Alleged ET Contactee claims to have Cloned Humans, that there is No Soul, only Technology to be Eternal, Beiieve in Sex Orgies and their aim is to overthrow the Religions and build a Temple for 144,000 Chosen People and a Space Port for the Elohim/ETs/EDs in Israel. Israel have been blocking their permission for many years.
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posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 11:12 PM
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originally posted by: PAUL35791
I suspect Freemasonry only became less secret when the Kabbalah Centre was open to the Public to join in Israel. Previously you had to be over 40, married, and 'Jewish' (most Jews are Russian that have no Semite Genes, thus the Race War in Israel, btw). Even the lower Degrees in FM involve Kabbalah, which is Jewish Witchcraft. Obviously Mormonism is related to FM and is largely untrue. Half the Kabbalah is probably untrue for that matter. Probably Ron Hubbard and Parsons were involved in SS and Masonry. There is the Primitive Faith that Good is the same as Evil, God is a Light Bulb, and you don't get any punishment for Evil in these Kabbalah Faith Based Cults.

Where do you come up with this nonsense?



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 11:41 PM
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originally posted by: GreenGunther
Your ‘e’ isn’t dotted in the title of the thread.
I thought it was going to be a society of pragmatists.
Just put in the Hoax bin already.


That's exactly what I thought; turned out to be a fun read after all.



posted on Nov, 12 2019 @ 11:55 PM
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Sorry for the "strawmaning" here, but if this is like any of the OP's other threads we're all wrong and only they are right. This being stated, if you feel that Raelism should be a secret society then you should make one. Nothing is stopping you. Here I'll even be helpful since I know a few things about secret societies:

Step one: Create a guild book that allows for the passing of knowledge in steps

Step two: Create rituals for passing from one step of knowledge to another

Step three: Define punishments for not obeying the rules

Step four: add your own flavors here

Many people use the Fraternal Order of Freemasons as a bases for their secret society due to the success of the organization, but many other groups can be used too. One particular group (which shall not be named) used the Micky Mouse Club as their society's foundations. So go at it and have fun, or be serious I really don't care.



posted on Nov, 14 2019 @ 05:43 PM
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Yes, even when I'm wrong I'm more right than those who think they are right.




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