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Dems Can Look Forward to the Same Treatment, If They Can Win Back White House.

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posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: whyamIhere
I don’t remember impeachment proceedings against Obama ?


Nah, just the whole birther thing, calling Michelle a man, etc..

Impeachment was Nixon (who resigned instead), and Clinton (who wasn't removed from office) if we're talking modern era politics.

Personally, I think the real gate crash, as far as "new level" goes, was Clinton. That's when the kids became fair game as Limbaugh asked if they were building a dog house for Chelsea (who was a 12 year old kid at the time). Before that, at least the kids were off limits. After that it's just been a downhill roll ever since.
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posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 04:14 PM
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originally posted by: mtnshredder
I’m not the one crying and whining sunshine, get over it already


You keep telling yourself that while you cry about how tough Trump has it. 'Leave Britney alone!'



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 04:17 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: mtnshredder
I’m not the one crying and whining sunshine, get over it already


You keep telling yourself that while you cry about how tough Trump has it. 'Leave Britney alone!'

Nah, just sick of ya’lls whining and complaining. Boo hoo



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 04:17 PM
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a reply to: mtnshredder

What am I whining about? I like when both parties tear each other apart, that **** is awesome.



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 04:18 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: mtnshredder

Waaaaaa! My boy had it the hardest!!! Suck it up.


I think politically and lobbyist-wise, you're not wrong. Most presidents have had to deal with equal quantities of ridiculous horsesnip from their political rivals and from various companies and high profile individuals with a vested interest. Where things veer from prior norms is with regards to the media. I don't think there's ever been a politician, let alone a president, as vilified by the media as Trump. I won't say it's entirely partisan, I think the media (and that includes media such as Hollywood and the music industry) have made this personal... it's like Keith Olbermann and his "Worst Person Every" 5 minute hates he used to hold every show against a target or two of the day... only it's every left leaning talking head and everyday it's the same "worst Person Ever" (DJ Trump) and the hate lasts 90% of the program rather than being restricted to a single frame between sponsor breaks.



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
I don't think there's ever been a politician, let alone a president, as vilified by the media as Trump.


Poor Donniepooh, if you go back to the founding of the country and look at what was said and published about Presidents at that time he's got it easy.



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 04:24 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: mtnshredder

What am I whining about? I like when both parties tear each other apart, that **** is awesome.

I don’t know what so awesome about watching our country becoming divided beyond repair but to each his own I guess.



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 04:25 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Did the media have the stranglehold on information and daily life as they have now, or were most Americans at that time insulated largely from hearing about any of it? If you want to argue that media saturation isn't ridiculously higher today than it was during the era of the Founding Fathers, well... as a fellow agent of chaos, I assure you I'd be delighted to see you bare your ass by making that type of a statement.



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: mtnshredder
I don’t know what so awesome about watching our country becoming divided beyond repair but to each his own I guess.


I like the schadenfreude from the terminally partisan, you know, those who think only their party is right when both parties are the same and equally horrid.



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 04:28 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

I think it had more of a stranglehold as there were only limited publications and very little in the way of calling out media spin.

Here's a good site.

Paraphrasing: 'If you elect Thomas Jefferson your house will burn! Your wife will be raped! Your children will be murdered!'




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posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 04:29 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Um, you're sort of the guy wallowing in your schadenfreude right now. Mtnshredder is actually decrying the divisiveness and seems to be bemoaning the loss of unity, which is kind of the exact opposite of schadenfreude.



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 04:30 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Unity is a utopian pipedream and leads to totalitarianism, I want disharmony.



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 04:33 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Trump vilifies himself with his ridiculous tweets and constant public temper tantrums. You elected a baby plain and simple.



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 04:36 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Did the media have the stranglehold on information and daily life as they have now, or were most Americans at that time insulated largely from hearing about any of it? If you want to argue that media saturation isn't ridiculously higher today than it was during the era of the Founding Fathers, well... as a fellow agent of chaos, I assure you I'd be delighted to see you bare your ass by making that type of a statement.


Once again if Trump didn't want all the scrutiny and reporting on him he might lighten up on the constant Tweeting. He wants to be in the public eye and has made it abundantly clear when he talks about TV ratings while sitting in the oval office like that is the be all end all of a presidency.

Man I knew you guys buried your head in the sand but I didn't expect you'd do it up to your ankles.



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 04:38 PM
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originally posted by: mtnshredder

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: mtnshredder

What am I whining about? I like when both parties tear each other apart, that **** is awesome.

I don’t know what so awesome about watching our country becoming divided beyond repair but to each his own I guess.

You don't understand how America works. You don't know your history. This is it. This is how it works, and it's how it has always worked. Just like our legal system, it's always been less about cooperation and more about confrontation and competition.
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posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 04:39 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
Waaaaaa! My boy had it the hardest!!! Suck it up.


There is NO WAY Augustus had it harder than Julius! They stabbed that guy in the back AND the front!



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 04:40 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: mtnshredder
I don’t know what so awesome about watching our country becoming divided beyond repair but to each his own I guess.


I like the schadenfreude from the terminally partisan, you know, those who think only their party is right when both parties are the same and equally horrid.

I hear ya there. I have no horse in the race really. I could probably say I despise them both also as I don’t align with either party. I would say I’m more of a liberal than anything, that was until they came along and redefined it. I just get sick of reading and hearing all the hatred I suppose. There was a day when most Americans at least respected and supported the office, I realize those days have come and gone.






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posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 04:43 PM
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a reply to: mtnshredder

Hard to have respect for the office of the presidency when the leader is the Commander-in-Cheetoh-dust



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 04:45 PM
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originally posted by: mtnshredder

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: mtnshredder
I don’t know what so awesome about watching our country becoming divided beyond repair but to each his own I guess.


I like the schadenfreude from the terminally partisan, you know, those who think only their party is right when both parties are the same and equally horrid.

I hear ya there. I have no horse in the race really. I could probably say I despise them both also as I don’t align with either party. I would say I’m more of a liberal than anything, that was until they came along and redefined it. I just get sick of reading and hearing all the hatred I suppose. There was a day when most Americans at least respected and supported the office, I realize those days have come and gone.







Sadly I believe you are correct.

Those days are gone.

It kind of reminds me of the words “If you can keep it”.



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 04:45 PM
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originally posted by: Blue Shift

Political parties have apparently forgotten that the other party is not the "bad guys," and that they're all working for the same boss -- the American people.


And right here, I'll need a bit of help. A large portion of the American People are happy with Trump and what he's doing. I'd love to hear what laws he's passed that is bad for "the American People".

Patriotism is laughed at by some on the left. It's the nutter lefties that are killing this. And for some reason, the moderate/normal ones seem to be fine with how this is going. Like this is normal. Socialism. The Venezuela kind.




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