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Leak from neo-Nazi site could identify hundreds of extremists worldwide

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posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 12:13 PM
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a reply to: oloufo


But to be fair, some of them are way over the top. I don't support violence, like most of us. Fact is: Antifas aren't a danger for modern societies but far-right-extremists are.


Any extremist who crosses the line from speech to violence is not conducive to society and is criminal. While ANTIFA hasn't killed anyone to my knowledge, they're existence is more acceptable in many groups which could create bigger problems down the road.

See, a vast majority of the world can agree nazis are douchebags... But loosely defining people as nazis is just as dangerous. If you go to r/f##kTheAltRight, anyone with a MAGA hat is a nazi, and deserves to be punched. I won't lose sleep if someone punches a real self proclaimed nazi, but I also don't encourage that behavior because I know people who are in extreme sects of ideology will start loosely determining who is a nazi... AKA all of their political opponents. Godwins law.




posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 12:13 PM
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originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: JDmOKI

originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Xcalibur254

In the spirit of openness, Antifa will stop wearing masks to disguise their appearance now also, right?



protesters all around the world wearing masks when protesting dictatorship, corrupt governments etc... makes sense in a way. and talking about antifa - its only the so called 'schwarzer block' wearing masks, most of them are peaceful activists. i'm antifascist too, by the way.


So you endorse antifa because their name is anti fascist. Whoever came up with the name antifa needs to be promoted to grandmaster


Anti-fascist movements (/ˈæntifɑː, ænˈtiːfə/) and anti-fascist action networks are groups that describe themselves as anti-fascist. Such movements have been active in several countries in the second half of the 20th and early 21st century.

But to be fair, some of them are way over the top. I don't support violence, like most of us. Fact is: Antifas aren't a danger for modern societies but far-right-extremists are.


How laughable that statement is...really. To state, we are not the dangerous ones, THEY ARE. Way to be myopic and totalitarian in your thinking. No room for gray areas, just, THEY are the dangerous ones.

UFB..honestly.



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 12:15 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

When you claim to be a activist or are fighting for activism but then u or your group uses violence. Society shouldn't be considering them as activists.

Especially if that one side is preventing others from speaking in the name of free of speech.



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 12:16 PM
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Are they Illinois Nazis? i HATE Iliinois Nazis!
Signed Jake and Elwood



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 12:19 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: DBCowboy

Why should Nazis be shown fairness?


For the same reason communists are? But communists have never committed mass murder, right?

(And by the way, I am not a nazi or a communist or a liberal or a conservative. I'm me)
edit on 7-11-2019 by BrianFlanders because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

*Prints the List*

*Flips the list over* - blank

"Is this it?"



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: JDmOKI

originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Xcalibur254

In the spirit of openness, Antifa will stop wearing masks to disguise their appearance now also, right?



protesters all around the world wearing masks when protesting dictatorship, corrupt governments etc... makes sense in a way. and talking about antifa - its only the so called 'schwarzer block' wearing masks, most of them are peaceful activists. i'm antifascist too, by the way.


So you endorse antifa because their name is anti fascist. Whoever came up with the name antifa needs to be promoted to grandmaster


Anti-fascist movements (/ˈæntifɑː, ænˈtiːfə/) and anti-fascist action networks are groups that describe themselves as anti-fascist. Such movements have been active in several countries in the second half of the 20th and early 21st century.

But to be fair, some of them are way over the top. I don't support violence, like most of us. Fact is: Antifas aren't a danger for modern societies but far-right-extremists are.


That's like saying Stalin wasn't that bad because he helped destroy nazi Germany



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: LSU2018

Of course it has...
Wonder how many intelligence officers were working undercover on that site, as well as others, just got doxed..


Who knows. They'll probably bury some of their own, too, for signing up to browse and look for nazis. I've never even heard of that site before. I'm sure there are current members of antifa who'd signed up before it was shut down as well.



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 12:42 PM
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originally posted by: JDmOKI

originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Xcalibur254

In the spirit of openness, Antifa will stop wearing masks to disguise their appearance now also, right?



protesters all around the world wearing masks when protesting dictatorship, corrupt governments etc... makes sense in a way. and talking about antifa - its only the so called 'schwarzer block' wearing masks, most of them are peaceful activists. i'm antifascist too, by the way.


So you endorse antifa because their name is anti fascist. Whoever came up with the name antifa needs to be promoted to grandmaster


It makes as much sense as the KKK calling themselves antiwhite...



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 01:27 PM
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originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: JDmOKI

originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Xcalibur254

In the spirit of openness, Antifa will stop wearing masks to disguise their appearance now also, right?



protesters all around the world wearing masks when protesting dictatorship, corrupt governments etc... makes sense in a way. and talking about antifa - its only the so called 'schwarzer block' wearing masks, most of them are peaceful activists. i'm antifascist too, by the way.


So you endorse antifa because their name is anti fascist. Whoever came up with the name antifa needs to be promoted to grandmaster


Anti-fascist movements (/ˈæntifɑː, ænˈtiːfə/) and anti-fascist action networks are groups that describe themselves as anti-fascist. Such movements have been active in several countries in the second half of the 20th and early 21st century.

But to be fair, some of them are way over the top. I don't support violence, like most of us. Fact is: Antifas aren't a danger for modern societies but far-right-extremists are.


Your post demonstrates why it's so easy for justice and freedom to fail so frequently.

Ignorance. Pure ignorance.



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 01:28 PM
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originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: JDmOKI

originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Xcalibur254

In the spirit of openness, Antifa will stop wearing masks to disguise their appearance now also, right?



protesters all around the world wearing masks when protesting dictatorship, corrupt governments etc... makes sense in a way. and talking about antifa - its only the so called 'schwarzer block' wearing masks, most of them are peaceful activists. i'm antifascist too, by the way.


So you endorse antifa because their name is anti fascist. Whoever came up with the name antifa needs to be promoted to grandmaster


Anti-fascist movements (/ˈæntifɑː, ænˈtiːfə/) and anti-fascist action networks are groups that describe themselves as anti-fascist. Such movements have been active in several countries in the second half of the 20th and early 21st century.

But to be fair, some of them are way over the top. I don't support violence, like most of us. Fact is: Antifas aren't a danger for modern societies but far-right-extremists are.


Lol, I can't even....



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 01:30 PM
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a reply to: LSU2018

I don't know why I keep feeling surprised by such viewpoints. It's either denial on my part or complete naivete. Either way it's an awful truth.

Some people just sow the seeds for their own oppression.
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posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 01:32 PM
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a reply to: loam

I know... I couldn't even find the words to tell him how utterly stupid he looks by saying that.



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 02:00 PM
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originally posted by: ErEhWoN



Tolerance means you tolerate things you disagree with.
a reply to: CriticalStinker

So, by this premise, we are to Tolerate slavery?

Pedophilia?

Necrophilia?

I'm genuinely curious. Is this statement bound by any by any act of decency, or does it stand alone?
If it is bound by decency, I would argue Nazi's and their philosophy indecent.

Would you agree? Or do we 'tolerate' that which with we disagree?


What specifically makes the Nazi philosophy indecent? I know but I often wonder about others. I’m going to go out on a limb here because I believe most people are brainwashed on WW2 the nationalist socialist party, Hitler and his reasoning. It’s very easy to turn people into monsters and it’s very easy to just repeat what you have been told. It requires mental fortitude to not be taught as if you are a child and research the reasoning behind it all. Who was the source of the information did they have any biases? What factors played into the war? Have you looked at hitlers book? Are you afraid to read it? Most people are! It’s actually quite boring but it has a lot of the answers I looked for and never got in class.

Most people spin off the platitudes for their reasoning they “the Nazi” are evil, they killed people, they believed in something positive about themselves and hateful to everyone else etc as their reasoning for not looking deeper.

I will be honest about my search for “the answers” I have looked into some pretty dark places, I take questionable stances others might never take because I’m not afraid of being a social Pariah or outcast and I come to conclusions normal people don’t come to. That’s why I’m here 911, intelligence community collecting information on us citizens, most conspiracy in general!

WW2 is one of the biggest conspiracies that ever existed! Most people are too afraid to look into it because they feel they know about it from Hollywood movies, video games and history classes and amazingly it’s always told from the same perspective unlike most history classes that talk about different viewpoints surrounding a war.

The event “WW2” is wrapped up in too much fear, guilt, pride and sympathy to the victims who amazingly are not the majority of casualties to accurately be discussed without offending someone.

That should be the first clue for most of you people once the media ties fear, guilt and pride into reasons for not openly talking about a subject there is a problem.

They did that same thing on 911! Oh don’t talk about the towers falling into there own footprint because of the people who died? What about their families “fear of reprimand”? Then they pumped the country with pride to go to war! American flags and cheeseburgers, Aw-Merica putting a boot in your arse if your a terrorist! Next it was guilt don’t talk about about it! think of the troops your dishonoring their sacrifice in IRAQ!

It’s the same with WW2 except they switch it up a bit.
First it’s don’t talk about that my grandfather, uncle or aunt is a holocaust survivor. Guilt

Next it’s pride in Americans kicked their Nazi arses my father, uncle cousin fought in the war “greatest generation”. Pride

Next it’s fear: antifa are going to Dox you Nazi’s and get your jobs taken away. Or a comment like ok have fun being on fbi watchlist. In some countries it’s illegal to question anything from the official WW2 narrative.

Shame is tied in with guilt but it works differently. Us white people need to account for our crimes against humanity even though I personally wasn’t there.

Like a trained dog someone will often inject these into legitimate discussion.

Then with WW2 comes source shaming the information isn’t important even if it’s true it’s the source. Normally it someone suggesting you read a rabbi’s interpretation of events like it’s not going to be biased! He’s got a doctorate and has written 5 books that somehow always fall into countering questionable versions of the official story the books are super long and usually lead to muddled thrown together conclusions but it’s not from a Nazi!

Next it absolutes “only the sith deal in absolutes” if you question any official story of the holocaust or WW2 your a Nazi!

The Nazi are dead! I But they also live rent free in the minds of all the people who still believe in the real life version of Voldemort “hitler”! Oh don’t discuss Hitler don’t say his name and don’t talk about WW2 or he will come back ooohhhhh!

Ps good job on equating Nazi with necrophiliacs and pedophilia and peal clutching “oh think of the children”, where do we draw the line with tolerance!



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 02:05 PM
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a reply to: Veryolduser

To quote the Dead Kennedys: Nazi punks f*** off!



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 02:27 PM
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I've been dealing more and more with racist national socialists lately (alt-right). I've also been dealing with antiimmigrant and Jew-hating "dissident right".

The alt-right we all understand is a conglomeration of white supremacists who are engaged in the advocacy of a white ethnostate that uses socialist policy to ensure the homogeneity of the population. These people are collectivists just as much as the left.

The "dissident right" are not socialists. But they are racist and antisemitic and they want to end all immigration into the United States. They want to revoke the citizenship of all immigrants who were naturalized (like me) and deport them.

I know who most of these people are. Many post on Twitter, Facebook, Minds, and 4Chan and other avenues to spread their message and communicate with others. These folks are out in the open and engaging the world and engaging in identity politics in the same manner that the left-wing is.

I do not currently believe these people to be pervasive in terms of numbers of adherents. But it should be noted that they have become much more active as of late.



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 02:29 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: shooterbrody
who gets that venom next
vegans?
atheists?


And crossfitters. Don't forget the crossfitters.


Crossfitters should be drawn and quartered.



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 02:32 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Veryolduser

To quote the Dead Kennedys: Nazi punks f*** off!


Is that supposed to have any relevance?

Questioning anything doesn’t automatically make you the opposite. If I question republican view point on a subject it doesn’t automatically make me a Democrat same with questioning a democratic view point.

If you believe I’m a punk I don’t subscribe to identifying myself by the music I listen too that’s what children do. I don’t dress like a punk or really listen to their music genre . If you mean punk as an insult I find it hilarious coming from someone who identifies with that music.

Or maybe I got you wrong? I can’t really be sure with quotes from music I don’t listen to



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 02:41 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
Gingers.

Ginger vegans, who do yoga.


I couldn't in my worst nightmares imagine anything more soulless.



posted on Nov, 7 2019 @ 02:56 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
I've been dealing more and more with racist national socialists lately (alt-right). I've also been dealing with antiimmigrant and Jew-hating "dissident right".

The alt-right we all understand is a conglomeration of white supremacists who are engaged in the advocacy of a white ethnostate that uses socialist policy to ensure the homogeneity of the population. These people are collectivists just as much as the left.

The "dissident right" are not socialists. But they are racist and antisemitic and they want to end all immigration into the United States. They want to revoke the citizenship of all immigrants who were naturalized (like me) and deport them.

I know who most of these people are. Many post on Twitter, Facebook, Minds, and 4Chan and other avenues to spread their message and communicate with others. These folks are out in the open and engaging the world and engaging in identity politics in the same manner that the left-wing is.

I do not currently believe these people to be pervasive in terms of numbers of adherents. But it should be noted that they have become much more active as of late.


Do you really believe in your idealistic Dribble? The usage of left wing buzzwords indicates it acts like some kind of dog whistle you must call others to help you in your safe space if it offends you! Clearly your painting people with a very broad brush who’s viewpoints you don’t agree with not everyone fits into your narrow viewpoint. Not everyone alt-right is anti immigration, they are not a collective of white supremacy advocates.” Dissident right” are simply people asking inconvenient questions about immigration and Jewish influences into American politics that doesn’t automatically make them “Jew hating and anti immigration”. Not everything is as black and white as you think the world is.



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