a reply to: JohnProctor
Killing all those innocent people will reverse climate change, think again.
We have past a point at which the natural CO being released by crystalline Methane, thawing permafrost and other sources is now far outstripping even
the worst offending nation on this planet on an annual basis, in fact it is far outstripping the entire human greenhouse gas output on an annual basis
never mind just a single nation.
Were WE are not helping is in allowing deforestation to continue, reef's a necessary part of the eco system of the ocean's to be turned into military
installations and bleaching of other reef's as the water temperature rises (some can adapt and go deeper with the dead reef skeleton then becoming
home to other reef species but one in particular is struggling and may not survive that is the Great Barrier reef of Australia.
Let's put it this way, every single human being could stop breathing, farting, using hair spray, cooking and it would still not stop global
Also Global warming which has been exacerbated by human activity is NOT entirely down to human activity, before the end of the last glacial minimum -
that is the period between the Glacial Maximum's we wrongly call ice ages when in fact in geological term's we are in one single huge ice age called
the Quaternary Glaciation.
Go back sometime between 550 to about 750 million years ago and our entire planet was coming out of a period called the Snow Ball earth epoch a
series of super ice ages that make the Quaternary at it's chilliest look like a beach resort holiday, the entire planet was FROZEN at least several
time's and in what is called by geologists the great non conformity there is at least one to two miles of the entire earth's surface that is missing
from the strata record because it was scoured away by these period's of super glaciation.
Think HOTH the planet from star wars the empire strikes back, that is pretty much how the earth looked back then it may have been volcanic activity
that finally released enough CO2 to help warm the planet up OR it could have been the sun changing as it get's older or even both.
As the sun ages it eat's up it's hydrogen and turn's it into helium as I am sure you have heard before, this in turn get's turned into heavier and
heavier element's as the sun ages and as these element's are produced through the atomic fusion that drives our stars energy output creating heat and
light and radiation as waste products from this fusion process the new gases made up of heavier element's have to occupy more volume - all down to the
electron valency's and being in plasmatic states, this in turn mean's that the sun has swollen since it first blew off the halo of it's birth nebulae
and as it ages that swelling increases, it also mean's the sun get's hotter and produced more heat as it ages until it eventually become's a super
giant in a period between 3.5 to 5.5 billion years then dies possible in a fiery supernova explosion BUT life on earth with no help from us will have
to adapt to a warmer and warmer planet over the next 2 billion years after which it may not even be possible for life to survive as the Goldilocks
zone around our star will have moved out ever further and our planet ever more toward it's inner boundary until it is no longer in that Goldilocks
zone and liquid water can no longer exist on it's surface, some estimate that life as we know it may become untenable in as little as 500 to 750
million years in the future.
Human's are NOT solely to blame and in fact despite the fact that the death worshipers LOVE the idea of a human cull because lets face it they hate
the human race - and probably everybody else as well - the planet is going to continue to get warmer anyway.
Were human's are doing harm AND they can also do GOOD is in the destruction and planting of trees.
We have an utter idiot that is driving his ship and everybody else onto rock's to prove his own belief's called Bolsonaro in Brazil, now the likes of
lemming's like him, yes throw them over the cliff but don't blame all of humanity for a few greedy corporate bastards.
The way it usually work's during the Quaternary is that our ocean current's such as the portion we call the Gulf Stream a part of the oceanic
conveyor a natural heat exchange mechanism of the ocean's carried warm waters north in the Atlantic, these in turn warm the northern hemisphere of
much of the world and reduce the natural glaciation that would otherwise be in full affect in the region.
Warm air rising from the ocean's also control's precipitation in many region's and affects atmospheric air current's such as the Jet Stream but as
the planet warm's up the ocean become less salty, it's viscosity and heat exchange ratio's change slightly but this is enough to affect entire
region's and eventually the warming affect CEASES, then the glaciation begin's all over again.
During the last Glacial maximum sea level's were at least 400 feet lower, sea level will rise but by no where near as much as it already has since
the end of the last ice age and when the cooling begin's sea level's will again drop, what is currently our home will become barren cold windswept ice
bound tundra and people and animal's and plant's will move down to lower altitudes populating what is currently sea bed but will then be land, in time
as the pay of is that the sea will become saltier the ocean current's self correct and begin to warm up the northern hemisphere again.
It's a cycle that has been going on for millions of years now and has not yet finished it's course.
50.000 years ago in what is today England African wilderbeast, giraffe, lion, hippo, African Rhino (not just the woolly variety's), cheetah and all
manner of African Savannah species along with African Savannah flora were thriving, that's in England just 50.000 years ago then the glaciation came
and the land changed, now it is starting to warm up but it is as yet no were near as warm as it was back then.
There have been great periods when there was no ice at the poles and life thrived, there have been periods when the ice Killed almost all life and
with the probably exception of deep ocean chemosynthetic extremophile bacteria and perhaps simple lichen as far as we know NOTHING survived, it was
only after the snow ball earth epoch that began about 2.2 billion years ago and lasted for about 1.5 billion years ended that we had the Cambrian
Explosion a period when life positively exploded into new form's, it was long thought that multi-cellular complex life had not existed prior to this
but some fossil evidence has turned up since to disprove that assertion meaning that there well could have been entire periods of warm earth during
interglacial - glacial minimum's during the snow ball earth epoch when entire eco system's could have evolved only for them then be completely
destroyed and all evidence of there passing lost in the encumbent period of glacial scouring that robbed the planet of at least 1 to 2 miles of
stratification evidence - the great non conformity.
Humanity will survive, life changes, eco system's come and go all the time it's the way of the earth BUT it will get too hot for life to handle in
just 500 to 750 to at most 2.5 billion years time unless smart being's alive then find a way to cool there planet down using orbital sun screen's for
My opinion is that we can overcome.
edit on 8-11-2019 by LABTECH767 because: (no reason given)