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BOOM: Burisma Plead With US State Dept For Help, Invoked Hunter Biden

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posted on Nov, 6 2019 @ 08:44 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: Extorris
And yes, I have read your articles before

I know I know, the soros funded Atlantic Council said everyone wanted Shokin fired



Oh...so since the Atlantic Council reported it at the time, it is not true?

If I was to find Fox News reporting the same at the time? Would reality exist then?




posted on Nov, 6 2019 @ 08:47 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

What crime did Joe Biden commit specifically?



posted on Nov, 6 2019 @ 08:49 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: IAMTAT

Wait so a President does or does not have authority to withhold foreign aid?

It seems to be one way for Trump and another way for Obama. Which is it?


Ask yourself the same question.
I think Biden was bluffing and acting unilaterally to save his halfwit kid.
Furthermore...I see absolutely nothing in the transcripts that even points to a quid pro quo on Trump's part.



posted on Nov, 6 2019 @ 08:50 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Grambler

What crime did Joe Biden commit specifically?

The very one that Trump is being accused of, but actually didn't commit?



posted on Nov, 6 2019 @ 08:55 AM
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a reply to: Lumenari



Hillary... well, just a few videos of her last Presidential run could show that she is currently living in Narnia or something.


I like it!

I like it a lot!




posted on Nov, 6 2019 @ 09:05 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
Typical mud-slinging nonsense. Republicans simply are not competent enough to ever indict any Democrat let alone put one in jail.


Thats not how it works,thats not how any of it works

you can literally follow links to the information, which modern intelligent people call verified "Facts", its not mud slinging


edit on 6-11-2019 by SailorJerry because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 6 2019 @ 09:25 AM
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a reply to: tanstaafl

Yep. That's the one.



posted on Nov, 6 2019 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Joe was being Joe.

Donny was being Donny.

So, there is no crime here?



posted on Nov, 6 2019 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: SailorJerry

Hey a GIF!

That settles it then.



posted on Nov, 6 2019 @ 10:11 AM
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a reply to: Extorris

It’s not that only the Atlantic council reported it

It’s that they and all of those who claimed Shokin was corrupt were establishment allies of Obama and soros

And again it’s irrelevant. Saying it was ok for Biden to extort Ukraine with a billion dollars because folks that are establishment leaders, most with globalist agendas connected to soros, thought it was cool is not an excuse

Everyone said comey should be fired

Yet I don’t recall your outrage that when trump did it there was a two year investigation into him



posted on Nov, 6 2019 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Grambler

What crime did Joe Biden commit specifically?

The very one that Trump is being accused of, but actually didn't commit?


Bingo!



posted on Nov, 6 2019 @ 11:00 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

If Trump isn't guilty how can Biden be?



posted on Nov, 6 2019 @ 11:13 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Grambler

If Trump isn't guilty how can Biden be?


You have the question backwards

Trump did not do a quid pro quo, Biden did

Trump did not seek to have a prosecutor fired who was looking into his family, Biden did

Yet the media and Dems demand trump be impeached

And had no problem with what Biden did

In fact they say investigating Biden is itself a crime



posted on Nov, 6 2019 @ 11:27 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

Ah! THERE it is! I knew that Trump-loving pretzel logic couldn't be restrained.

So, Trump is not guilty of a quid pro quo that he and the White House have admitted to, but Joe Biden who had no authority to do decide anything in foreign policy is guilty of a quid pro quo?

Or are you invoking the Nixon Doctrine? "It's not illegal when the President does it."

Before you embarrass yourself much further let me help. I've said from the beginning that this was a stupid blunder for Dems to try to hang impeachment on because of the President's latitude of power in dealing with foreign countries.

HOWEVER, Biden was at best a messenger for well-established Obama foreign policy (not even remotely connected to an election btw), and was not and could not act on his own in regard to Ukraine.

This is pretty basic stuff.
edit on 6-11-2019 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on Nov, 6 2019 @ 11:39 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Please cite and quote what the White House has admitted to.


And......

With Biden’s son being tied to an investigation of his company, VP Biden should have recused himself from such a decision. So no, Biden did not have the authority.



posted on Nov, 6 2019 @ 11:51 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: tanstaafl

Yep. That's the one.

Wow, and here I thought TDS was something you couldn't recover from...



posted on Nov, 6 2019 @ 12:19 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

Nah.

You can Google "White House Chief of Staff Mulvaney admits quid pro quo" if you'd like.

What exactly did you want Joe to "recuse" himself from again?



posted on Nov, 6 2019 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: tanstaafl

Yep. That's the one.

Wow, and here I thought TDS was something you couldn't recover from...


You forgot "Orange Man Bad" and "Deep State.".

Might as well go for the Trump supporter’s trifecta.
edit on 6-11-2019 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on Nov, 6 2019 @ 12:24 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: Extorris

It’s not that only the Atlantic council reported it

It’s that they and all of those who claimed Shokin was corrupt were establishment allies of Obama and soros



Including the IMF? EU Countries? The UK? The Ukranian people themselves who protested in the street for his removal?

March 29th, 2016

EU hails sacking of Ukraine’s prosecutor Viktor Shokin



Ukraine’s parliament voted overwhelmingly to fire Viktor Shokin, ridding the beleaguered prosecutor’s office of a figure who is accused of blocking major cases against allies and influential figures and stymying moves to root out graft.

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The EU and United States are demanding as much, amid a political crisis that has paralysed reforms in Ukraine and jeopardised vital funding from international lenders.


www.irishtimes.com...

The IMF? THEY were worried about Joe Biden's son sitting on some board????

Feb 10 2016
IMF warning sparks Ukraine pledge on corruption and reform
Lagarde threat to suspend $40bn aid package elicits swift response from Kiev




The president has come under pressure at home and internationally for refusing to replace a long-time loyalist, Viktor Shokin, as chief prosecutor. Mr Shokin has been criticised for failing to bring to justice any of the snipers who killed dozens of protesters in central Kiev in the final days of the revolution, and for dragging his feet over investigating senior officials and businesspeople.

Taras Kuzio, a Ukrainian political analyst, tweeted that “the crunch is coming for President Poroshenko who has to choose between finally supporting anti-corruption efforts or losing IMF money”.

www.ft.com...



REALITY MATTERS ...Rudy trying to invent a new history?...Might work with 20 somethings raised for gnat like short attention-span, but it is sad to see such BS consumed on ATS

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posted on Nov, 6 2019 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

You haven’t answered anything. Biden had no authority and therefore committed no crime.

If Obama committed a crime, then so has Trump.

You don’t remember a lot of things apparently.

Against Mueller? Hell no. If the Dems wanted something to actually impeach Trump over, Mueller handed it to them on a silver platter. Against it? Nope, I applauded it. Still do.

You got a citation to US Code on that hand-waving you’re doing there G? Because you got nothing and you know it.




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