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originally posted by: pexx421
originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: pexx421
It seems that apart from trying to rewrite history to suit your views you have learned nothing from history.
Millons dead/starved/murdered in the name of socialism/communism but its all somehow the Wests fault?
Why dont you move to Venezuela?
ah. So you are you saying we didnt attempt to assassinate their rulers? or to foment coups? Are you saying we dont have them embargoed from foreign trade? Or that we havent stolen billions of their dollars? which part of these do you disagree with?
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: pexx421
The CONTEXT was the whole GD page.
www.usdebtclock.org...
And 47% don't live in poverty.
It's around 11%
originally posted by: oldcarpy
originally posted by: pexx421
originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: pexx421
It seems that apart from trying to rewrite history to suit your views you have learned nothing from history.
Millons dead/starved/murdered in the name of socialism/communism but its all somehow the Wests fault?
Why dont you move to Venezuela?
ah. So you are you saying we didnt attempt to assassinate their rulers? or to foment coups? Are you saying we dont have them embargoed from foreign trade? Or that we havent stolen billions of their dollars? which part of these do you disagree with?
It seems that anyone who disagrees with you you call idiots etc.
Not much point in trying to engage with a poster who is so dogmatic and closed minded.
Typical socialist attempts to purge dissent.
Comrade.
originally posted by: Fools
originally posted by: pexx421
a reply to: Fools
You have obviously never known anyone who resides in Norway.
So the Soviet Union and Norway are equal in their socialisms in your eyes? And, yes not only do I know someone from Norway but I have also spent a week in Oslo.
originally posted by: pexx421
originally posted by: Fools
originally posted by: pexx421
a reply to: Fools
You have obviously never known anyone who resides in Norway.
So the Soviet Union and Norway are equal in their socialisms in your eyes? And, yes not only do I know someone from Norway but I have also spent a week in Oslo.
No, in YOUR EYES Soviet Union and Norway are equal in their socialism. Because when we discuss any of the policies practiced by Nordic nations quite successfully, you predict we will become the ussr. That’s YOUR equivalency, not ours.
originally posted by: pexx421
originally posted by: oldcarpy
originally posted by: pexx421
originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: pexx421
It seems that apart from trying to rewrite history to suit your views you have learned nothing from history.
Millons dead/starved/murdered in the name of socialism/communism but its all somehow the Wests fault?
Why dont you move to Venezuela?
ah. So you are you saying we didnt attempt to assassinate their rulers? or to foment coups? Are you saying we dont have them embargoed from foreign trade? Or that we havent stolen billions of their dollars? which part of these do you disagree with?
It seems that anyone who disagrees with you you call idiots etc.
Not much point in trying to engage with a poster who is so dogmatic and closed minded.
Typical socialist attempts to purge dissent.
Comrade.
No, it’s more like when people here patronize, make insulting personal attacks, and RESPOND TO STATEMENTS THEY INVENT RATHER THAN STATEMENTS WE MAKE, then I respond in kind. You and others like you devolve to insults and personal attacks, and then act all affronted when I respond in kind. If you don’t like it, don’t go there!
So I’ll ask again, which of the facts that I’ve stated about us actions in Venezuela, Argentina, Honduras etc do you deny? It’s very simple. You stated these nations situation are the results of “SOCIALISM!!” I pointed out other factors. Rather than discussing them you resort to personal attacks. To me, that demonstrates an unwillingness to consider context because your position can’t bear it.
originally posted by: oldcarpy
originally posted by: pexx421
originally posted by: oldcarpy
originally posted by: pexx421
originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: pexx421
It seems that apart from trying to rewrite history to suit your views you have learned nothing from history.
Millons dead/starved/murdered in the name of socialism/communism but its all somehow the Wests fault?
Why dont you move to Venezuela?
ah. So you are you saying we didnt attempt to assassinate their rulers? or to foment coups? Are you saying we dont have them embargoed from foreign trade? Or that we havent stolen billions of their dollars? which part of these do you disagree with?
It seems that anyone who disagrees with you you call idiots etc.
Not much point in trying to engage with a poster who is so dogmatic and closed minded.
Typical socialist attempts to purge dissent.
Comrade.
No, it’s more like when people here patronize, make insulting personal attacks, and RESPOND TO STATEMENTS THEY INVENT RATHER THAN STATEMENTS WE MAKE, then I respond in kind. You and others like you devolve to insults and personal attacks, and then act all affronted when I respond in kind. If you don’t like it, don’t go there!
So I’ll ask again, which of the facts that I’ve stated about us actions in Venezuela, Argentina, Honduras etc do you deny? It’s very simple. You stated these nations situation are the results of “SOCIALISM!!” I pointed out other factors. Rather than discussing them you resort to personal attacks. To me, that demonstrates an unwillingness to consider context because your position can’t bear it.
The biggest examples of how socialism/communism ends with a police state, repression of freedom, millions of citizens dead or murdered and general misery are Soviet Russia and China so lets discuss the biggies, eh?
Also, please don't shout.
originally posted by: Fools
originally posted by: pexx421
originally posted by: Fools
originally posted by: pexx421
a reply to: Fools
You have obviously never known anyone who resides in Norway.
So the Soviet Union and Norway are equal in their socialisms in your eyes? And, yes not only do I know someone from Norway but I have also spent a week in Oslo.
No, in YOUR EYES Soviet Union and Norway are equal in their socialism. Because when we discuss any of the policies practiced by Nordic nations quite successfully, you predict we will become the ussr. That’s YOUR equivalency, not ours.
Great way to NOT answer a question. Excellent that you put words in my mouth. So charming.
originally posted by: pexx421
originally posted by: oldcarpy
originally posted by: pexx421
originally posted by: oldcarpy
originally posted by: pexx421
originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: pexx421
It seems that apart from trying to rewrite history to suit your views you have learned nothing from history.
Millons dead/starved/murdered in the name of socialism/communism but its all somehow the Wests fault?
Why dont you move to Venezuela?
ah. So you are you saying we didnt attempt to assassinate their rulers? or to foment coups? Are you saying we dont have them embargoed from foreign trade? Or that we havent stolen billions of their dollars? which part of these do you disagree with?
It seems that anyone who disagrees with you you call idiots etc.
Not much point in trying to engage with a poster who is so dogmatic and closed minded.
Typical socialist attempts to purge dissent.
Comrade.
No, it’s more like when people here patronize, make insulting personal attacks, and RESPOND TO STATEMENTS THEY INVENT RATHER THAN STATEMENTS WE MAKE, then I respond in kind. You and others like you devolve to insults and personal attacks, and then act all affronted when I respond in kind. If you don’t like it, don’t go there!
So I’ll ask again, which of the facts that I’ve stated about us actions in Venezuela, Argentina, Honduras etc do you deny? It’s very simple. You stated these nations situation are the results of “SOCIALISM!!” I pointed out other factors. Rather than discussing them you resort to personal attacks. To me, that demonstrates an unwillingness to consider context because your position can’t bear it.
The biggest examples of how socialism/communism ends with a police state, repression of freedom, millions of citizens dead or murdered and general misery are Soviet Russia and China so lets discuss the biggies, eh?
Also, please don't shout.
Right. So you’re response is to refuse to discuss the points I made. Let’s ignore facts that don’t fit our narrative, shall we?
originally posted by: pexx421
originally posted by: Fools
originally posted by: pexx421
originally posted by: Fools
originally posted by: pexx421
a reply to: Fools
You have obviously never known anyone who resides in Norway.
So the Soviet Union and Norway are equal in their socialisms in your eyes? And, yes not only do I know someone from Norway but I have also spent a week in Oslo.
No, in YOUR EYES Soviet Union and Norway are equal in their socialism. Because when we discuss any of the policies practiced by Nordic nations quite successfully, you predict we will become the ussr. That’s YOUR equivalency, not ours.
Great way to NOT answer a question. Excellent that you put words in my mouth. So charming.
Great way to act like you don’t understand the answer. Obviously ussr and Nordic nations have vastly different values, situations, and methods. We support our tax dollars here going to support the people rather than war and corporate profit. Similar to every other western industrialized nation we want things like single payer healthcare, minimal education expenses, and a limit to corporate freedoms from liability and regulations so that they can only exploit so much, and don’t destabilize our economic processes. All of which you already are aware of.
originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: pexx421
You said “ First is the myth that any of us want "equal". Apparently you have trouble understanding what "equal" means. ”
Well, let’s look at that shall we. If equality is not what communists want, then why is redistribution of wealth from the evil bourgeois to the common man such an integral part of the Communist Manifesto, and why is it such an integral part of the Progressive party platform ? Why do Progressives insist on equal everything on a regular basis.
And yes we do understand the meaning of equality. Taking from one to give to another is a false sense of equality. I should be equally able to keep my paycheck as much as another. How about the concept of fairness. Is it really fair that I should work my behind off so some illegal can come and get things for free ? Are you kidding ?
originally posted by: oldcarpy
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originally posted by: pexx421
originally posted by: oldcarpy
originally posted by: pexx421
originally posted by: oldcarpy
originally posted by: pexx421
originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: pexx421
It seems that apart from trying to rewrite history to suit your views you have learned nothing from history.
Millons dead/starved/murdered in the name of socialism/communism but its all somehow the Wests fault?
Why dont you move to Venezuela?
ah. So you are you saying we didnt attempt to assassinate their rulers? or to foment coups? Are you saying we dont have them embargoed from foreign trade? Or that we havent stolen billions of their dollars? which part of these do you disagree with?
It seems that anyone who disagrees with you you call idiots etc.
Not much point in trying to engage with a poster who is so dogmatic and closed minded.
Typical socialist attempts to purge dissent.
Comrade.
No, it’s more like when people here patronize, make insulting personal attacks, and RESPOND TO STATEMENTS THEY INVENT RATHER THAN STATEMENTS WE MAKE, then I respond in kind. You and others like you devolve to insults and personal attacks, and then act all affronted when I respond in kind. If you don’t like it, don’t go there!
So I’ll ask again, which of the facts that I’ve stated about us actions in Venezuela, Argentina, Honduras etc do you deny? It’s very simple. You stated these nations situation are the results of “SOCIALISM!!” I pointed out other factors. Rather than discussing them you resort to personal attacks. To me, that demonstrates an unwillingness to consider context because your position can’t bear it.
The biggest examples of how socialism/communism ends with a police state, repression of freedom, millions of citizens dead or murdered and general misery are Soviet Russia and China so lets discuss the biggies, eh?
Also, please don't shout.
Right. So you’re response is to refuse to discuss the points I made. Let’s ignore facts that don’t fit our narrative, shall we?
That is pretty ironic as it is you that is rewriting history to fit your beliefs.
Soviet Russia and China and the lessons of history seem not to fit your narrative.
originally posted by: JBIZZ
We've been under socialism in the U.S. since 1913,
For every $100 deposited in the bank $90 more are created out of thin air.