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and in any case cannot be disposed of along with the day's medical waste
State Rep. Francis Ryan, R-Lebanon County, stressed that his bill would give families the option to bury or cremate fetal remains after a miscarriage, but would not force them to hold funeral services.
“I think this is a significant bill that came to pass for those of us who have lost children and I‘ve lost three,” Ryan added. “My bill does nothing more than give parents the option at their own expense to take care of the remains on their own.”
House Bill 1890 would require medical facilities to notify parents that that they have the option of cremating or burying any medical tissue - including embryonic tissue, fertilized ovum or blastocyst - resulting from a miscarriage or an abortion.
“We received heartfelt emails from women telling us about their early miscarriages, how difficult they were, and how much worse it would have been were they forced to get a death certificate for a pregnancy that they understood so differently,” said Rep. Dan Frankel, D-Allegheny. “It’s simply wrong to tell women what a loss of pregnancy is supposed to mean to them.”
What/who is calling their loved one a piece of garbage? A politician in Pennsylvania and YOU.
So all abortions in the first trimester are okay? Or just the ones that you approve of?
Have I portrayed an entire group of people as unreasonable here? Does callousness toward others exist? Sure.
Old as sin. Man’s inhumanity to man. Vicious little primates the lot of us.
The OP capitalizes on a very reasonable comment As a point-of-departure for a very predictable ideological rant. I don’t know if you’ve ever helped a lady with a miscarriage, but coarse reference or not, the representative from PA’s statement was not inaccurate. It was also not necessarily callous but realistic.
Perhaps if those who take the anti-abortion stance were a bit less melodramatic and more realistic we’d start to make some progress toward a reasonable compromise like, oh, I don’t know, abortions are not elective after the fetus is viable.
The zygote is a baby. The embryo is a baby. The fetus is a baby. Right?
Now, when someone who believes THAT says that there are occasions in which an abortion makes sense, what does that signify? It means that person is just fine with killing a baby AS LONG AS it meets their criteria for doing so?
I’m with you. I’d rather prevent pregnancies than have to face the question of an abortion.
So pain is the determining issue for you?
I’m not celebrating viciousness.
A nerve I don’t want to step on? I’m sorry for your experienced loss.
I didn’t refer to your daughter as garbage, and shame on you for suggesting I said such a thing.
You comment about “what you hear” is pure BS Redneck. You don’t hear me saying that at all.
I’m very familiar with the man in the mirror Redneck. I sleep just fine knowing that I stand for human rights for all.
One side giving up everything??? If the anti-abortion “side’ doesn’t want an abortion ... they don’t have to have one!!!
What you and the other activists want is to tell the rest of us what we can do with our bodies ... and no, that’s not just in the right to an abortion it seems.
Zygotes are human beings?
Show me reasonable medical evidence of how we determine when sentience occurs and we can talk.
Feel pain and react to danger? So, the 38 week fetus that is discovered to have horrible disfigurements should be born and forced to exist for whatever period of time it exists in pain?
You state that the mother is of primary importance and the “baby” is of secondary importance?
Therefore killing the “baby” to save the mother is understandable???
I will continue to believe that we should do EVERYTHING as a society to help prevent pregnancies and care for children that mothers decide to have whether they give them up or keep them. I will continue to believe that offering assistance to mothers and children is an act of charity that we all can well afford as a culture. Too many times, however, the constellation of “politics” that requires anti-abortion stances is also altogether against all that “socialism.”
I have explained my thoughts as well. I’m fine with what I’ve said as I expect you are. Time will tell which if us is correct.