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Halloween - and the Day an Ancient World was Destroyed

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posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 04:30 PM
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Let's go on a history trip back in time. We'll start today where Halloween has become a multi-billion dollar holiday being adopted around the world, and trace its roots back into ancient history.

20th Century



In the 20th century Halloween became a very popular holiday in the United States. Most of us who grew up there probably can remember the cold nights of late autumn when people would go out trick or treating, passing by major Catholic and Protestant Churches holding sales of Pumpkins and giving away candy for the holiday. But the origins of this holiday celebrated by the Churches of Christendom and now many secular and non-religious people has a much more ancient origin.

19th Century



In the 19th century immigrants from Ireland brought the custom of Halloween with them to the United States. The customs they had were similar to others immigrating from other parts of the world, including Britain, Germany, even parts in Africa. These all merged into what he know as Halloween today.

18th Century

The first time the word Halloween was printed. Coming from Hallowe’en, or Allhalloween. That is All Hallows' Eve, or Saint's Eve. As Hallow means sacred. So Halloween literally means sacred evening, the evening of the saints.

But let us even go further back in history. What does October the 31st have to do with the "saints"or holy ones in the Bible? Where is the holiday mentioned in the Bible? It isn't.


11th Century



The Catholic Church consecrates November 2 as "All Souls Day" to commemorate the dead. The observances of All Souls Day and All Saints Day are collectively called Hallowtide.


7th Century



It is reported that the Pope Boniface IV established the celebration of All Saints Day to celebrate the martyr of the saints or holy ones.

So up to this point we can see the Halloween comes from old words that actually mean Holy, or Hollow, or Sacred Evening. It was a holiday instituted by the Church to celebrate the Saints, or Holy Ones that were murdered for witnessing as Christians. (The word martyr comes from Greek and literally means "witness.")

But why did the Church chose this particular date to consecrate a holiday that the Bible never mentions. And where do many of the customs and traditions of Halloween come from? To discover that we need to look back further in time, and into pagan origins.

1st Century



In the first century the Romans conquered the Celts, and as was part of their tradition of assimilation, adopted the spirististic practices of the Celts including Samhain. It is interesting to note that on October 31st witches the world over still celebrate October 31st as Samhain, with its ancient spiritistic and pagan roots. They consider it to be their most holy day of the year.

The USA Today quoted a witch as saying: "Christians ‘don’t realize it, but they’re celebrating our holiday with us. . . . We like it."

5th Century B. C. E.


Celts celebrate the pagan festival of Samhain. This is the time of year they believe that ghosts and demons roam more freely in the earthly plain.

The celtic order of Druids worshiped the lord Samhain, lord of the dead. The word Samhain comes from old Irish and literally means "summer's end".
An added note about the lord Sahmain...Samhain may not be, as is often said, the name of the Celtic god of death but, rather, the name of the festival. According to Jean Markale, French specialist on the Celts, it was probably Lug, the god of light, who was honored during Samhain.


November 1st was their New Year. They gathered together to release the souls of the dead to the Druid heaven, keeping bonfires burning to keep evil spirits away.

Around the world traditions of celebrating the dead are found if they do not come from this old pagan Celtic rite that was later added into the Church as it assimilated pagan cultures and adopted their customs and practices to water down Christian teachings, and make apostate Christianity more appeasing to the pagans.

The Encyclopedia of Religion points out: “Samhain remained a popular festival among the Celtic people throughout the christianization of Great Britain. The British church attempted to divert this interest in pagan customs by adding a Christian celebration to the calendar on the same date as Samhain. . . . The medieval British commemoration of All Saints’ Day may have prompted the universal celebration of this feast throughout the Christian church.”


For example:
North America - Day of the Dead
South America - Kawsasqanchis
Europe - Day of the Dead and variations of Halloween
Africa - Dance of the Hooded Egunguns
Asia - Bon Festival

Is there a common origin to all of these celebrations to the dead? And if so what dead?

The Bible states:
"In the 600th year of Noah’s life, in the second month, on the 17th day of the month, on that day all the springs of the vast watery deep burst open and the floodgates of the heavens were opened."-Genesis 7:11.

When exactly in earth's timeline was that date? The 2nd month (October/November Gregorian calendar) of the year 2370 B. C. E., falling on around the date Samhain, Halloween, and other festivals that celebrate the dead are commemorated.

So really Halloween is not a holy day. It was the date the fallen angels fought against God and lost their powers to remain human, and they watched as the ancient world they created was destroyed in a world-wide deluge, along with all their hybrid human offspring they had engendered.

It is a celebration of the war-dead, and a remembrance of the demons of the day they were cast into Tarturus, and chained in eternal bonds of dense darkness awaiting the day of judgement.

All who celebrate this holiday around the world in whatever its form, unwittingly involve themselves with lamenting and celebrating all of the war dead of that ancient ungodly society.

To everyone who claim to be Christian that have unwittingly celebrated this satanic holiday with the demons they should open their eyes to the words in the Bible that strictly warn:

"No; but I say that what the nations sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God; and I do not want you to become sharers with the demons.  You cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons; you cannot be partaking of “the table of Jehovah” and the table of demons.  Or ‘are we inciting Jehovah to jealousy’? We are not stronger than he is, are we?"-1 Corinthians 10:20-22.

To pagan and witches who celebrate the ancient druidic festivals, either unknowingly or knowingly to Satan who is behind the rites of spiritism it is good to take note of the words:

"10 There should not be found in you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, anyone who employs divination, anyone practicing magic, anyone who looks for omens, a sorcerer,  anyone binding others with a spell, anyone who consults a spirit medium or a fortune-teller, or anyone who inquires of the dead. For whoever does these things is detestable to Jehovah, and on account of these detestable practices Jehovah your God is driving them away from before you."-Deuteronomy 18:10-12.
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posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 05:00 PM
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Yes, it sucked never being able to trick or treat growing up. I finally was able to experience it, vicariously through my children. It’s a fun holiday, I really enjoy it!

You need to have some fun dude. 🍻



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 05:12 PM
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originally posted by: KKLOCO
Yes, it sucked never being able to trick or treat growing up. I finally was able to experience it, vicariously through my children. It’s a fun holiday, I really enjoy it!

You need to have some fun dude. 🍻


Guess you no longer follow Jesus and don't want your kids to. The horrible loss of not glutting on sweets and following, always following the sheep herd.
Fun is for this lifetime perhaps if that is all one wants.



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 05:25 PM
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Seawothy,

I, like most people, don’t have enough fun. So when fun is there to be had, take it and relish it.

I spent 22 years in the dogmatic JW religion. Where is your point of reference?
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posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 06:08 PM
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originally posted by: KKLOCO
Seawothy,

I, like most people, don’t have enough fun. So when fun is there to be had, take it and relish it.

I spent 22 years in the dogmatic JW religion. Where is your point of reference?


No need to tell you, you surely know the scriptures. You would know that purposely taking part in ceremony that is part of the worship of idols and false Gods is wrong.

I don't belong to a religion but it seems on the holiday point JW is hitting the mark.

You can have fun, and be a part of this world, a corrupt evil world if fun is that important to you, but you are also working it seems to drag others there with you. The end result of that i am sure you know the scriptures for also.

Why is it "fun" has to be what is dictated by this world that is being ruled by evil? Can you really not find any other fun?
I have fun gardening and walking in nature, I have never seen the need to do what everyone else dictates for a certain day.

Wondering where do you than draw the line.
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posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 07:09 PM
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Colossians 2/16
Let no one pass judgement on you if you want to celebrate holidays

Funny how JW,org won’t let you celebrate a special day, how much they control you as an individual person
No birthdays, no Christmas, Easter? Everything, suck and drain everything out of a persons life
Anything to destroy children’s lives
Protect pedophiles, give them harbour in your organisation the treat adults like children and force them adults to bow to the elders, make the elders men to worship by fear

Your organisation is terrified of a few door knockers, popes from centuries ago, pagan traditions, your God must be petty and weak, insipid and impotent if it is fearful of Halloween.
Your god must be petty and weak if it allows evil people to be protected in its church

Fun on Halloween or mind control by stopping people doing what they can decide is right for themselves spiritually or not

Fun, a church that protects pedophiles, people in fear of questioning that organisation that protects pedophiles

Why not ask Edge, why not question your elders about pedophiles, why not ask Edge, why not say to your elders, it’s only candy, I am spiritually mature enough not to be influenced by halloween, why, are you a milk fed servant to your organisation?

I think you are more in fear of JW,org than Halloween. Your children should be, nest of pedophiles



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 07:17 PM
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originally posted by: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: KKLOCO
Seawothy,

I, like most people, don’t have enough fun. So when fun is there to be had, take it and relish it.

I spent 22 years in the dogmatic JW religion. Where is your point of reference?


No need to tell you, you surely know the scriptures. You would know that purposely taking part in ceremony that is part of the worship of idols and false Gods is wrong.


Wondering where do you than draw the line.


Where do you draw the line?
You are not in a religion but are telling others how to live?

How is this ceremony worshiping, who is being worshiped, where, do atheists dress up in black and worship gods?
Do Christians dress up and worship satan

What worship are you discussing, is dressing up and collecting lollies worship how and why

You are placing your demented views on others
Someone lied to you years ago and you are viewing life through their lies

Having fun, getting lollies is not worship
Hiding in your house, living in fear of a church organisation and it’s elders is the true evil
An organisation that doesn’t protect children from pedophiles is the true worship of evil, not letting kids door knock for lollies



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 07:25 PM
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Praise Satan! Thanks for spreading the word brother!



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 07:27 PM
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originally posted by: EdgeofParadise


"No; but I say that what the nations sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God; and I do not want you to become sharers with the demons.  You cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons; you cannot be partaking of “the table of Jehovah” and the table of demons.  Or ‘are we inciting Jehovah to jealousy’? We are not stronger than he is, are we?"-1 Corinthians 10:20-22.

To pagan and witches who celebrate the ancient druidic festivals, either unknowingly or knowingly to Satan who is behind the rites of spiritism it is good to take note of the words:

"10 There should not be found in you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, anyone who employs divination, anyone practicing magic, anyone who looks for omens, a sorcerer,  anyone binding others with a spell, anyone who consults a spirit medium or a fortune-teller, or anyone who inquires of the dead. For whoever does these things is detestable to Jehovah, and on account of these detestable practices Jehovah your God is driving them away from before you."-Deuteronomy 18:10-12.


You mix Judaism with Christianity, you are a Judaiser? Do you know they are two different covenants, you are as religious as the Catholics, working for the salvation God offered through Christ for free, you are in a cult Edge, get out

You can’t be under Mosaic law and Christ, ludicrous, you teach a lie

But if you really want to be relevant, why not go to the organisation you can effect and cal, them out for the criminals they are , protecting pedophiles


www.silentlambs.org...
Jehovah’s Witnesses Fight to Protect the Pedophile Paradise

June 2013 Rick Simmons replied to the appeal of the Jehovah’s Witnesses regarding the judgment against them in the Candace Conti trial. The document [read here] is quiet revealing regarding the basis and arguments of the appeal to the case launched by the Jehovah’s Witness legal staff. As you read the document you get a distinct impression about the religious legal team. This is of interest as in the years past it is a well known fact that lawyers for the JWs present themselves as being virtually invincible in the court. They give lectures to their members citing the Supreme Court rulings of the 1940’s as evidence of their legal prowess. In addition, they describe the fear of other attorneys and judges when they enter the court room and present this to their membership as something to be proud of.

The interesting part of all of this is, in the last fifty years they appear to be not that adept or even intelligent when it comes to legal matters. Time again and again when they face experienced attorneys with valid litigation, instead of going to trial they pull out the check book and use donated funds to pay millions to settle the negligence and malfeasance perpetrated on the public and members alike.

Why e your own evil sins out Edge before telling other not to knock on doors for candy

Hypocrisy



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 07:41 PM
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originally posted by: EdgeofParadise

In the first century the Romans conquered the Celts, and as was part of their tradition of assimilation, adopted the spirististic practices of the Celts including Samhain.

Actually, they didn't adopt it. They allowed the practice to continue. They did not impose any religion on the lands they conquered.



5th Century B. C. E.

Celts celebrate the pagan festival of Samhain. This is the time of year they believe that ghosts and demons roam more freely in the earthly plain.

The celtic order of Druids worshiped the lord Samhain, lord of the dead. The word Samhain comes from old Irish and literally means "summer's end".

There's no evidence of any deity called "Samhain" en.wikipedia.org...


November 1st was their New Year. They gathered together to release the souls of the dead to the Druid heaven, keeping bonfires burning to keep evil spirits away.

There aren't any written sources that say this. In fact, there's almost nothing written about Druids (and the only person to really write about them was Julius Caesar, who dismissed them with a few lines.)


Is there a common origin to all of these celebrations to the dead? And if so what dead?

No, and in fact some of them arise from folk magic mixed with Christianity... the tradition doesn't enter until Christians convert them. A good example is Dia de los Muertos, here in the Southwest US. Aztecs, Pueblos, Mixtecs, Incas, etc, did not have a Halloween time festival -- they did have ceremonies and rituals to memorialize the dead, but the date was not Halloween and the practices varied.




When exactly in earth's timeline was that date? The 2nd month (October/November Gregorian calendar) of the year 2370 B. C. E., falling on around the date Samhain, Halloween, and other festivals that celebrate the dead are commemorated.

You run into some real problems here... many civilizations around the world at that time had writing (it was, in fact, 200 years after the Great Pyramid was built in Egypt) and nobody wrote about the events you're trying to describe. It was a bit before the time of Sargon of Arkkadia, it was the 6th Kingdom in ancient Egypt, it was the time of the first Korean kingdom, the pre-Olmec culture was thriving in Meso America, and in South America, the Valdiva culture and the Norte Chico civilization were doing just fine. All of those existed before, during, and after the date you mention.

...and at that time (and before) there wasn't a Halloween day "day of the dead" in ancient Egypt or elsewhere.

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posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 07:44 PM
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Only a religious person would attempt to devalue the greatness of this holiday. An idiot believing in an old book of lies. I have already proven this book wrong many times over. There isn't any need to even argue it's validity. It's fiction.



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 08:11 PM
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originally posted by: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: KKLOCO
Seawothy,

I, like most people, don’t have enough fun. So when fun is there to be had, take it and relish it.

I spent 22 years in the dogmatic JW religion. Where is your point of reference?


Wondering where do you than draw the line.


At people on the internet who prefer to judge others by ruining innocent fun rather than accept that their tiny world view is as pretentious as it is misguided by dogma.

I don't know why people have to push their expectations on others. Seems rant worthy and you thought so too, but I suppose judging isn't bad as long as you're the one doing it.


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posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 08:12 PM
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I spent 22 years in the dogmatic JW religion.


that right there was your problem. them JW's ain't right.

one day i was walking through the house from my bedroom to the kitchen. the bedroom is in the back of the house and to get to the kitchen you have to walk by the front door. i looked at the door and there was one of their pamphlets sticking in it.

we live in the woods, nearest neighbor is about a 1/2 mile or so away. never lock the door when home during the day. and the door is real tight, you can't squeeze anything through it. i run those folks down and gave them a expletive filled rant that turned them white when i got to the part where i asked them had they ever thought that somebody might be on the other side of the door with a shotgun ready to shoot. fun times

needless to say i'm on the temples watch tower do not proselytize list.

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posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 08:26 PM
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The Autumnal death traditions have ancient origins, far more ancient than you have taken them>
Bard A madsen's book, "From The Deep Ocean Above", explores the origins of the various tradition discussed here>
www.amazon.com...



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 08:49 PM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy

You lost me at ‘The scriptures say’.



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 08:58 PM
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a reply to: KKLOCO They have nothing else. You're supposed to believe these ancient lies.



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 09:11 PM
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a reply to: EdgeofParadise


Unfortunately, you lose the connection of Halloween in your theories timeline with the fallen angels and cover that up with religious dogma.
Not good in terms of what is true and false in history



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 09:36 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: EdgeofParadise


Unfortunately, you lose the connection of Halloween in your theories timeline with the fallen angels and cover that up with religious dogma.
Not good in terms of what is true and false in history



He won’t be back, doesn’t want to converse with us heathen



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 09:42 PM
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Interesting History lesson....


However seeing the few kids we get running with joy from house to house, interacting with neighbors, makes me feel hopeful and who doesn't love a baby snickers bar !



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 09:57 PM
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Commercial interests have been trying to make Halloween a 'thing' here in Oz for decades with limited success as there's still a lot of resistance to it here. Only twice in my long life have kids come to my neighbourhood 'trick or treating' but areas vary and the situation might change if it was an actual holiday here but I can't see that ever happening.



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