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posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 09:59 PM
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a reply to: RazorV66

The judiciary committee should be the only one doing the impeachment, and as it happened during the Bill Clinton impeachment, democrats should give subpoena power to the minority House representatives.

Heck, during the Bill Clinton impeachment the republicans allowed an independent prosecution to do the investigation.

Bob Barr was just on tv, explaining how different was the Clinton impeachment, which was fair, to the Trump impeachment which is unfair because democrats don't have anything against the POTUS, and they are SCARED that he will be re-elected again.

Democrats/socialists are using more lies and dirty tactics to try to dissuade voters from voting for Trump in 2020.





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posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 10:44 PM
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In....As The World Turns today; Oops ....How Democrats will somehow impeach a legit President.

We now have once again evidence..that will get him!

He may be elusive. But for god's sakes Scotty....We got him now....

Stay tuned till tomorrow as this Soap only gets better!

About right?

Jesus....isn't there cities in which Democrats should be looking into their own saturated messes



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 01:20 AM
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originally posted by: shawmanfromny
a reply to: RazorV66

Makes me wonder what other stunts the Dems will pull out of their hat, once impeachment fails and Trump is elected again in 2020. Can you say REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?



Through 2024 Trump will be living like this in the dems heads...




posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 03:14 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse




Democrats/socialists are using more lies and dirty tactics to try to dissuade voters from voting for Trump in 2020.


That is exactly what is happening and what the Democrats/socialists are hoping for.
The Democrats/socialists are hoping that a number of Trump supporters/voters dont show up at the polls in 2020. This is an strategy by them.



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 06:53 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: RazorV66




All the Democrat attempts to oust President Trump prior to the latest “Whistleblower” attempt, have failed miserably for them.


That's not the impression that I'm getting from the parade of government officials testifying, and confirming the whistleblower's accusations.



If me and my friends get together and make up a story, then have to go in a testify to that story, and all our made up information matches, does that then make our false story true?

Because that's exactly what you're saying.

We have the transcript. It's out, Trump called their bluff by releasing it, and yet some people are STILL believing hhe media and the Dems.

I swear, we're living in Bizarro World. Everything America is being mirror imaged by the left. Guilty until proven innocent is the prime example of that.

Being tried in the court of public opinion is all that matters to them, and they have the media on their side to further that.
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posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 07:22 AM
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This will go on for the next year. I bet next summer they will have large protest everywhere and lots of riots. All Trumps fault of course because he won't step down and they can't find anything to impeach him for.





posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 07:35 AM
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originally posted by: SourGrapes
Was it Ukraine, earlier this year, that was publicly asking why the U.S. DOJ won't accept evidence of wrongdoing? Honest question. Something about them having information that they have tried to share, only to be ignored or blocked?


Yep, the Ukranians were unable to get their visas approved through the embassy, thus why Obama's ambassador to Ukraine was replaced. Also, known that the Burisma investigation was re-opened back in February. Well before the July phone call.

It seems the Dems are in distress that Zelensky seems to want to really clean up corruption in his government too and it is looking like their corrupted connections there have been cut out!



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:02 AM
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a reply to: RazorV66
You may like this new video exposing more of the lies of pelosi and her criminal friends.
"Debunking Pelosi's LIES on the floor of Congress"


Remember this headline from Jan. 20th, 2017?


The campaign to impeach President Trump has begun

Washpost
This is all about them knowing they cant win the vote legally in 2020, so they will do whatever it takes, By Any Means Necessary.



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:35 AM
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originally posted by: CynConcepts

originally posted by: SourGrapes
Was it Ukraine, earlier this year, that was publicly asking why the U.S. DOJ won't accept evidence of wrongdoing? Honest question. Something about them having information that they have tried to share, only to be ignored or blocked?


Yep, the Ukranians were unable to get their visas approved through the embassy, thus why Obama's ambassador to Ukraine was replaced. Also, known that the Burisma investigation was re-opened back in February. Well before the July phone call.

It seems the Dems are in distress that Zelensky seems to want to really clean up corruption in his government too and it is looking like their corrupted connections there have been cut out!


And before Biden threw his hat in the ring. So, its NOT about Trump asking a country to investigate an opponent. Biden is ONLY "running for President ", to try and shield himself from what's coming.



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: poncho1982

After Months of Giuliani pressuring Ukraine officials to open an investigation into Biden ....

July 18: Trump blocks nearly $400 million in military aid to Ukraine


Taylor, in his written testimony, says he was on a video conference with National Security Council staff and others that day when someone from the Office of Management and Budget chimed in and "said that she was from OMB and that her boss had instructed her not to approve any additional spending of security assistance for Ukraine until further notice." According to Taylor, she said, "The directive had come from the President to the Chief of Staff to OMB."


ONE DAY LATER

7/19/19 Text From Kurt Volker (US Special Rep Ukraine) to Taylor (US Diplomat to Ukraine) and Sondland (US Ambassador EU)

Had breakfast with Rudy this morning—teeing up call with Yermak (Chief Advisor to President Zelensky) Monday,
Must have helped.
Most (important) is for Zelensky to say that he will help investigation—and address any specific personnel issues—if there are any.

TWO DAYS after THE UNEXPLAINED HOLD ON AID

July 20: Taylor holds a call with Ukrainian national security adviser Alexander Danyliuk "during which he conveyed to me that President Zelenskyy did not want to be used as a pawn in a U.S. re-election campaign," according to Taylor's written testimony.

A WEEK AFTER THE HOLD AND 30 MINUTES BEFORE TRUMP + ZELENSKY CALL

July 25, 8:36 a.m. VOLKER texts YERMAK (President Zelensky's Chief Advisor)

[7/25/19, 8:36:45]
Kurt Volker: Good lunch - thanks.
Heard from White House -- Assuming President Z convinces Trump he will investigate/ "get to the bottom of what happened in 2016", we will nail down date for Visit to Washington.
Good luck! See you tomorrow- kurt

July 25 Trump and Pres Zelenksy Speak by phone and Trump asks for investigations into Crowdstrike and Biden

Aug. 9 to 17 In a series of text threads released by House investigators, State Department officials, Giuliani and Yermak discuss a statement that would commit Ukraine to investigate both the 2016 election and Burisma.

In one exchange, Sondland tells Volker that Trump "really wants the deliverable,"

Yermak says they want to set a date for a meeting before discussing making public statements about investigations.

Aug. 28: Politico reports that U.S. military aid to Ukraine is being held up.
Yermak sends a text to Volker the next day linking to the article and says, "Need to talk with you." Yermak also tells Taylor he is concerned.

Aug. 29: Trump cancels a trip to Poland to commemorate World War II. He is scheduled to meet with Zelenskiy while on the trip

Sept. 1:
Sondland met with Yermak in Warsaw and told the Ukrainian official that "the security assistance money would not come until President Zelenskyy committed to pursue the Burisma investigation."


"Are we now saying that security assistance and WH meeting are conditioned on investigations?" Sondland replies, "Call me."

On that call, Taylor writes in his testimony,"Ambassador Sondland told me that President Trump had told him that he wants President Zelenskyy to state publicly that Ukraine will investigate Burisma and alleged Ukrainian interference in the 2016 U.S. election."

He adds that Sondland told him "everything" was contingent on "such an announcement, including security assistance" and that Trump wanted to put Zelenskiy "in a public box."

Sept 8th
Taylor continues that on that call with Sondland:

"Ambassador Sondland tried to explain to me that President Trump is a businessman. When a businessman is about to sign a check to someone who owes him something, he said, the businessman asks that person to pay up before signing the check."

Taylor says he argued that the explanation made no sense and that "holding up security assistance for domestic political gain was 'crazy'."

Sept. 9: On the day that the congressional intelligence committees are formally notified of the existence of the whistleblower complaint,

Ambassador Taylor in a text with Sondland says, "As I said on the phone, I think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign."

Sept. 11: Under pressure from lawmakers, the White House releases the funding for Ukraine without any explanation of what changed.

www.npr.org...




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posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:45 AM
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None of that explains Ukraine's reaching out to our DOJ way BEFORE Biden even hinted at running. Ukraine reached out to the U.S. and were ignored, multiple times. Why?

Edit: That's an attractive timeline, must have taken a lot of work. Why not include any dates prior to say, February 2019?
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posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: SourGrapes
a reply to: Extorris

None of that explains Ukraine's reaching out to our DOJ way BEFORE Biden even hinted at running. Ukraine reached out to the U.S. and were ignored, multiple times. Why?



False.

Show me where "Ukraine" reached out to DOJ about Crowdstrike or Biden. REAL Sources and evidence please.

Rudy, working for Trump and emplying two Ukranian Ex-pats who are now indicted for money laundering for Russian Oligarchs, put together a package of BS and Conspiracy theory to 1) Exonerate Russia and Blame Ukraine + Crowdstrike for the 2016 election interference and once it became apparent Biden would run, Rudy folded Biden into that objective.



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:51 AM
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originally posted by: Extorris

originally posted by: SourGrapes
a reply to: Extorris

None of that explains Ukraine's reaching out to our DOJ way BEFORE Biden even hinted at running. Ukraine reached out to the U.S. and were ignored, multiple times. Why?



False.

Show me where "Ukraine" reached out to DOJ about Crowdstrike or Biden. REAL Sources and evidence please.

Rudy, working for Trump and emplying two Ukranian Ex-pats who are now indicted for money laundering for Russian Oligarchs, put together a package of BS and Conspiracy theory to 1) Exonerate Russia and Blame Ukraine + Crowdstrike for the 2016 election interference and once it became apparent Biden would run, Rudy folded Biden into that objective.



Show me where Trump mentioned Biden or Crowdstrike.



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: SourGrapes
a reply to: Extorris

Edit: That's an attractive timeline, must have taken a lot of work. Why not include any dates prior to say, February 2019?



Check the link. My timeline is abbreviated to most relevant. The link is more expansive and detailed.

Other timelines are available going further back with more data and evidence if you have the will to research.



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:54 AM
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originally posted by: SourGrapes

originally posted by: Extorris

originally posted by: SourGrapes
a reply to: Extorris

None of that explains Ukraine's reaching out to our DOJ way BEFORE Biden even hinted at running. Ukraine reached out to the U.S. and were ignored, multiple times. Why?



False.

Show me where "Ukraine" reached out to DOJ about Crowdstrike or Biden. REAL Sources and evidence please.

Rudy, working for Trump and emplying two Ukranian Ex-pats who are now indicted for money laundering for Russian Oligarchs, put together a package of BS and Conspiracy theory to 1) Exonerate Russia and Blame Ukraine + Crowdstrike for the 2016 election interference and once it became apparent Biden would run, Rudy folded Biden into that objective.



Show me where Trump mentioned Biden or Crowdstrike.


Everywhere. If you are unaware of the call transcript and various testimony, then I suggest you catch up.
If you are aware, then your post is pointless troll and a waste of posting space and not worth responding to.
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posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:55 AM
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originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Funny, smells more like deflection to me. Perhaps we should talk about what Trump did, and not those around him trying to figure it out. The question will be, "Is it ok for the US President to ask a foreign government for political favors against an opponent. And in this case, was it ok to withhold funds appropriated by the Congress for defense for political reasons? I simply want a vote on that and for each Senator, Dem or Rep, to have to go on record with that vote.

Simple.


It is simple. What Joe Biden and his son were doing is WRONG. They should be investigated, and one of the presidents duties is to root out corruption - especially when it comes to a leading DNC candidate who could become president and carry on with more corruption.

You lefties love Obama for investigating Trumps alleged ties to Russia before the campaign, but the slightest hint of Trump doing the same to Biden is somehow abhorrent to you.

NO FUNDS WERE WITHHELD. The Ukranians did not even know about a hold on the funds till a month after the call - they got their money and still have handed no info over on Biden. We also have the transcript of the call and Ukraine denying there was any quid pro quo.

THIS IS SO CLEARLY NOT A QUID PRO QUO. I seriously feel anyone not able to determine that is a complete idiot.



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:55 AM
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originally posted by: SourGrapes

originally posted by: CynConcepts

originally posted by: SourGrapes
Was it Ukraine, earlier this year, that was publicly asking why the U.S. DOJ won't accept evidence of wrongdoing? Honest question. Something about them having information that they have tried to share, only to be ignored or blocked?


Yep, the Ukranians were unable to get their visas approved through the embassy, thus why Obama's ambassador to Ukraine was replaced. Also, known that the Burisma investigation was re-opened back in February. Well before the July phone call.

It seems the Dems are in distress that Zelensky seems to want to really clean up corruption in his government too and it is looking like their corrupted connections there have been cut out!


And before Biden threw his hat in the ring. So, its NOT about Trump asking a country to investigate an opponent. Biden is ONLY "running for President ", to try and shield himself from what's coming.


It's not just about Biden, it's about the Democratic National Committee and Democrats in general. The theory that Trump is pushing is that the Russians never hacked the DNC and never sent that data to WikiLeaks to strategically publish during the Campaign. That was the DNC framing Russia to hurt Trump during the election.

Seth Rich knew it and got murdered. The DNC hired Crowdstrike, who fabricated evidence to frame Russia. Then Democrats hid the DNC server in the Ukraine, where Hunter Biden was being a criminal and stealing money, and his dad was working the legal system to get the prosecutor fired.

The election was rigged by corrupt Democrats, but Trump won because God willed it.

If Trump can push that conspiracy theory, he thinks it will disparage all Democrats and people will want to only elect lily white "Chosen One" Republicans, like himself!

ETA: Oh yeah....Everything in the Mueller report is false. Mueller is a corrupt Never Trumper, because of a dispute about golf club fees. And, if anything in the Mueller report does happen to be true, Comey and McCabe lied to get FISA warrants, so whatever evidence they found was "fruit from the poisoned tree".

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posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:59 AM
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At what point do all of these continued efforts to supplant the elected POTUS amount to a crime?

I'm serious.

The Democrats haven't been shy about it. They were talking impeachment BEFORE he swore in.

I would argue that repeated efforts to throw him out or corner him are ILLEGAL and SEDITIOUS!



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 12:00 PM
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Ukraine to U.S. prosecutors: Why dont you want our evidence on the Democrats?


I'm having issues doing this via cell phone.
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Anyway, I tried to link an article from April 9th 2019, Biden threw his hat in on April 19th.
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posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 12:01 PM
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Indeed it does. Patiently waiting for the arrests of all these traitors to begin.



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