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It Has Nothing To Do With Trump!

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posted on Oct, 30 2019 @ 11:48 AM
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The truth is actually worse about Liberals.

Those of us on the right know that the left could care less about the what the president supposedly did.

We all know if this was a Democrat president, it would have been laughed away as a right wing conspiracy the first day and
that would be the end of that.

But here is the truth you need to realize, it has NOTHING, NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH TRUMP

Put on your thinking caps.

Remember George Bush Jr, year 2000.

Remember how crazy the left went and claimed he stole the election with some vote machines.
Even to this day it is believed he stole the election.

If you actually do research he won Florida by 500 votes fair and square.

The point is, it doesn't matter who our guy is, its our guy. The left doesn't really want Democracy, do they? They want
democracy that is "progressive" democracy that goes the way they want it.

Mark my words, and remember this post. The next time a conservative president wins again, youll see the same damn thing, just different tactics.
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posted on Oct, 30 2019 @ 11:56 AM
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a reply to: sprockets2000

Funny how you seem to forget that a large number of people, including our current President, claimed Obama should be impeached because they claimed he wasn't American.


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posted on Oct, 30 2019 @ 12:01 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: sprockets2000

Funny how you seem to forget that a large number of people, including our current President, claimed Obama should be impeached because they claimed he wasn't American.


Did the house try to impeach him? If not, you are comparing apples to oranges.


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posted on Oct, 30 2019 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: sprockets2000

Funny how you seem to forget that a large number of people, including our current President, claimed Obama should be impeached because they claimed he wasn't American.


The mainstream media didn't. The media defended Obama, ten ways from Sunday.

President Trump could cure cancer, and the media would still demand his head on a pike.
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posted on Oct, 30 2019 @ 12:04 PM
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You're right. For me at least, it isn't about Donald Trump. It could be anyone in his place and I'd be saying the same things.

Because the issue here is that everyone on the right doesn't care whether he breaks the law or not.

You all believe you are constantly in the right for everything you do, so whatever Trump does, regardless of whether it breaks the law or violates the constitution is ok. And that's crap. If a Democratic President was doing the same things Trump is doing while trying to legally argue he's above the law you better believe I'd be right here saying the same things.

At this point, it's nothing more than constitutionalists versus party loyalists.



posted on Oct, 30 2019 @ 12:05 PM
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a reply to: highvein

Did they try to impeach Bush? No. If this was about impeachment why did the OP bring up Bush in his post?



posted on Oct, 30 2019 @ 12:15 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: highvein

Did they try to impeach Bush? No. If this was about impeachment why did the OP bring up Bush in his post?


You will have to ask him why. I responded to your post about Obama.


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posted on Oct, 30 2019 @ 12:18 PM
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You all believe you are constantly in the right for everything you do, so whatever Trump does, regardless of whether it breaks the law or violates the constitution is ok. And that's crap.


What is crap is that you would rather impeach a President for trying to expose corruption. Sugar coat it all you want, that is what happened.



posted on Oct, 30 2019 @ 12:19 PM
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It's not about the right or the left either. Everything is about money, power and control. Big brother wants everything. It's about everything. They want to own us even more completely than before. Trump is just a tool.



posted on Oct, 30 2019 @ 12:24 PM
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The democratic party sucks thats for sure. But does that need repeating time and again? Before 2016, would anyone have loved the Republican Party here like they do now?

Very strange things happened in and after the 2000 election. Im sure the official story says he won fair and square, but i still believe it was rigged. Especially considering the massive expansion of executive power, curtailing of liberties, Imperial wars of expansion and the extreme influence of the MIC and intelligence community under President Bush. Would that have happened under Al Gore? Probably not.

The “left” of 2019 is not the same as it was back then. Nor is the right for that matter.

The establishment doesn’t want a progressive democracy. Those are just the talking points of the west coast tech giants who are above the law and the intelligence community. Expertly crafted to appeal to what the focus groups polled had to say on whatever flavour of the month issue is hot now. They want to continue Bush’s Imperial foreign policy. Full spectrum dominance for the 21st century. Trump doesn’t. We can see that in his diplomacy with North Korea, withdrawing from Syria and new detente with the Russians.

They want total surveillance of the people through social media and to control the public narrative through newsmedia. The vehicle with which it is delivered is meaningless. Progressivism, Socialism, Conservatism, Fascism, they will use whatever label they think will work.

Does the everyday democrat or progressive want that? No. Does the average Republican? No. But they dont see the real picture. It is because Trump is a racist, or Pelosi hates Christians, or Trump is “abandoning allies” or “appeasing fascists”, or Biden is a Ukrainian agent, or Trump is a Russian agent.

A meaningless game to distract the stupid that i will admit i took my part in. It also increasingly dominates this forum. Each thread is less about conspiracy, or dissecting disinformation, or pointing out inaccuracies, contradictions or flaws in the narrative. Much threads are like this one, Right-wing virtue signalling against the evil left, or threads laughing at Trump (then being brigaded). Going in circles ober who can the most offended over this headline, or that gaff.
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posted on Oct, 30 2019 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: sprockets2000

Note to self :

Remember this thread that didn't tell me a damn
thing I didn't already know.

Word marked!



posted on Oct, 30 2019 @ 12:27 PM
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Politicians on the left (most) are like chronic hoarders.

They are content to live in the filthy rat-infested swamp. They're comfortable. They know how to navigate through the mess. They made it.

Trump is like the organizer that comes in, evaluates the chaos and disorder, and begins the arduous task of getting it all cleaned up while the mental cases with the hoarder disorder slap at him, scream, and try to trip him, knock him down, and put stuff back on a roach-infested shelf.



posted on Oct, 30 2019 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: highvein
a reply to: underwerks




You all believe you are constantly in the right for everything you do, so whatever Trump does, regardless of whether it breaks the law or violates the constitution is ok. And that's crap.


What is crap is that you would rather impeach a President for trying to expose corruption. Sugar coat it all you want, that is what happened.


This is all you guys on the right:



It doesn't matter what Trump was trying to do if he violated the law while doing it. A President has to be held accountable to our laws and the constitution or everything that America is, is dead.

It's telling you care more about protecting the leader of your party than you do protecting the constitution.



posted on Oct, 30 2019 @ 12:31 PM
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The OP's original post is based around two data points. Bush and Trump. Without the Bush data point the entire premise of OP's already weak thread falls apart.

The whole point of the thread is that the Democrats will try to delegitimize any Republican President that is elected while trying to act like the Republicans are innocent of the same thing.

Yet, they ignore that our current President, among many others on the Right, tried to delegitimize Obama. And let's not forget that they did try to impeach Clinton.

The OP is just blind partisanship/political baiting. If they, and all those agreeing with them, were actually genuine they would recognize that this isn't a Left v Right issue. It's a symptom of the modern political climate that affects both sides equally.



posted on Oct, 30 2019 @ 12:34 PM
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Yeah...




It doesn't matter what Trump was trying to do if he violated the law while doing it. A President has to be held accountable to our laws and the constitution or everything that America is, is dead.


Oh, you want politicians held accountable? Sure you do. You only want 1 politician held accountable.
When the impeachment does not work out how you want it to, will you be satisfied?



posted on Oct, 30 2019 @ 12:36 PM
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If they, and all those agreeing with them, were actually genuine they would recognize that this isn't a Left v Right issue. It's a symptom of the modern political climate that affects both sides equally.


I can agree with that point.



posted on Oct, 30 2019 @ 12:44 PM
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originally posted by: highvein
a reply to: underwerks

Yeah...




It doesn't matter what Trump was trying to do if he violated the law while doing it. A President has to be held accountable to our laws and the constitution or everything that America is, is dead.


Oh, you want politicians held accountable? Sure you do. You only want 1 politician held accountable.
When the impeachment does not work out how you want it to, will you be satisfied?


Why is it you don't want him held accountable?

Serious question.



posted on Oct, 30 2019 @ 12:46 PM
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a reply to: highvein

If it could be shown that Biden violated the law then he certainly deserves to be punished.

That said, ask yourself this: Why would Trump want the Burisma case reopened? It's not a case that's under US jurisdiction. At the same time Hunter can't actually be punished even if he were found guilty of some crime since we don't have an extradition treaty with Ukraine.

The only outcome that could come from such an investigation is hurting Biden who was Trump's clear competitor at that point.



posted on Oct, 30 2019 @ 01:00 PM
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Trump was not trying to hurt Biden. He is doing what he was hired to do by The American People. There is an investigation going on about the 2016 election interference, how it started, who participated, and how the hoax against our president was perpetrated.

2016 election corruption involves the Bidens. Too bad Biden is running for the 2020 election. He should have listened to Obama and stayed out of it. The left wants to portray this investigation as trying to hurt Biden intentionally for 2020. It isn't and never was.

It is about 2016 and the lead up to the collusion hoax and the systemic corruption in D.C.



posted on Oct, 30 2019 @ 01:05 PM
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originally posted by: sprockets2000
The truth is actually worse about Liberals.


Ok, let's hear some truth



Those of us on the right know that the left could care less about the what the president supposedly did.


Not truth, but suppostion, supposition by you and possibly others concocted to support belief in Trump, but let's go on...



We all know if this was a Democrat president, it would have been laughed away as a right wing conspiracy the first day and
that would be the end of that.


This is conjecture, conjecture that is ludicrous even on the surface. Had Trump been a Democrat president he would not be promoting all the conservative pitch points that they find despicable. Remember your false truth above? It is ''Trump and what he is doing and not just objection-ism.




But here is the truth you need to realize, it has NOTHING, NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH TRUMP


Not really as already pointed out above but you have repeated it once again, in caps this time. Speaking of ''caps..



Put on your thinking caps

Remember George Bush Jr, year 2000.

Remember how crazy the left went and claimed he stole the election with some vote machines.
Even to this day it is believed he stole the election.


Wrong again. The belief was not that ''he' stole the election but that it was given to him by the Supreme Court.


The point is, it doesn't matter who our guy is, its our guy. The left doesn't really want Democracy, do they? They want
democracy that is "progressive" democracy that goes the way they want it.


Still waiting for this vaunted ''truth'' you promised to offer. Once again here you offer not truth but prejudiced supposition.


Mark my words, and remember this post. The next time a conservative president wins again, youll see the same damn thing, just different tactics.


And this of course is all based on the supposition that Trump is conservative and not just a charlatan that had hoodwinked almost half the nation with his circus sideshow blustering.




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