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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Dfairlite
You only had a memorandum of ten minutes of a thirty minute phone call.
Its in the public record what time the call began and what time it ended.
originally posted by: Dfairlite
why won't she hold a normal vote?
Why is nancy not letting the floor vote on starting an impeachment inquiry?
At the federal level, the impeachment process is a three-step procedure.
First, the Congress investigates. This investigation typically begins in the House Judiciary Committee, but may begin elsewhere. For example, the Nixon impeachment inquiry began in the Senate Judiciary Committee. The facts that led to impeachment of Bill Clinton were first discovered in the course of an investigation by Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr.
Second, the House of Representatives must pass, by a simple majority of those present and voting, articles of impeachment, which constitute the formal allegation or allegations. Upon passage, the defendant has been "impeached".
Third, the Senate tries the accused. In the case of the impeachment of a president, the Chief Justice of the United States presides over the proceedings. For the impeachment of any other official, the Constitution is silent on who shall preside, suggesting that this role falls to the Senate's usual presiding officer, the President of the Senate who is also the Vice President of the United States. Conviction in the Senate requires a two-thirds supermajority vote of those present. The result of conviction is removal from office.
originally posted by: underwerks
"To Lefties: Why Won't Nancy Vote On A Proper Impeachment Resolution?"
Because it isn't required.
And it doesn't really make sense to vote on articles of impeachment until the investigation is over with.
Once the investigation is over and they have all the information they want, then they'll vote. It's in their best interest to hold out as long as possible and gather as much information as they can to make the best case for when it goes before the Senate.
I'm no expert. But it would seem that first they investigate. Then they vote to impeach. Not that they vote to investigate.
How Congress Sets the Rules for Impeachment
Both the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate have the right to make their own rules governing their procedure, and to change those rules. Under current rules, the actual impeachment inquiry begins in the Judiciary Committee of the House of Representatives. That Committee holds hearings, takes evidence, and hears testimony of witnesses concerning matters relevant to the inquiry. Typically, as occurred in the case of President Nixon, there will also be a Minority Counsel who serves the interest of the party not controlling Congress.
Witnesses are interrogated by the Committee Counsel, the Minority Counsel, and each of the members of the House Judiciary Committee. The Committee formulates Articles of Impeachment which could contain multiple counts. The Committee votes on the Articles of Impeachment and the results of the vote are reported to the House as a whole. The matter is then referred to the whole House which debates the matter and votes on the Articles of Impeachment, which may or may not be changed. If the Articles of Impeachment are approved, the matter is sent to the Senate for trial.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Ksihkehe
I don't agree completely with your assertions but I have to say, you have a way with words. I usually say the Dems are masters at seizing defeat from the jaws of victory but you said it so much better!
Thanks for an early morning chuckle. Honestly.
Congressional materials have cautioned that the grounds for impeachment "do not all fit neatly and logically into categories" because the remedy of impeachment is intended to "reach a broad variety of conduct by officers that is both serious and incompatible with the duties of the office". Congress has identified three general types of conduct that constitute grounds for impeachment, although these categories should not be understood as exhaustive:
(1)improperly exceeding or abusing the powers of the office;
(2)behavior incompatible with the function and purpose of the office; and
(3)misusing the office for an improper purpose or for personal gain.
Conversely, not all criminal conduct is impeachable: in 1974, the Judiciary Committee rejected an article of impeachment against President Nixon alleging that he committed tax fraud,primarily because that "related to the President's private conduct, not to an abuse of his authority as President."