Transgender Kids & LBGTQ Parents

a reply to: Raggedyman

One doesn't have to participate in that fight. That only continues the cycle. Maybe the middle path is only for the rarified few. But who wants to be the foolish many?

And I see this “Woke” lgbtq, or progressive movement doing the same

Yea..Pretty much. LGBTQ got hijacked and now it seems they are letting the fringe groups push it to the extremes without consideration.

a reply to: blueman12

One doesn’t have to but just watch the news, it’s the reality

Eventually fringe groups become the populace, sadly

I find it amazing and in fact incredible that so many of these transgender, LBTGQ, climate activists & flat earth (et al) children are lucky enough to be born to exactly the right parents. What are the chances eh? What a blessing!
/s

Certainly difficult being a parent, sometime you think you are doing the right thing for the child....but maybe not.
A mother can get quite defensive over her cubs......

a reply to: Raggedyman

Eventually fringe groups become the populace, sadly

Heh.
The minority become the majority? Dreadful.
Cro-magnon rules! Dude. Neanderthal drools.

Evolution in action.

a reply to: Phage

Really, you going to offer empirical evidence of that evolution, I have a different theory, be fun to see yours based on science

Seem if I recall history, civilisations rise and fall and that’s not based on common sense

Humanity and the Dodo

Hmmm
Or are you inferring that all homo sapien sapiens , this modern generation are going to evolve into homo sapien sapien transgenders. That transgenderism is the next rung on your evolutionary scale . Born a sex and identify as the other sex, evolution in action

That Homo sapiens were never a minority and homo sapien sapien was always the majority? Bit confused at the moment, not sure it’s me or you. Wasn’t neanderthal a minority once, I am sure they were human, homo sapien sapiens once myself

Wow that a big leap, big call?
Whatever you believe man, not for me to argue with opinion

a reply to: Macenroe82

Interesting that your post doesn't quote from your source:

Of the 76 children of lesbian parents, 70 percent of females and 90 percent of males identified as “heterosexual or straight,” compared to 88 percent of females and 98 percent of males in the demographically matched NSFG group.

So, there was a divergence of 6% in females and 8% in males in the study group from the average population. The study tracks a difference in IDENTIFICATION not sexual activity. Homosexual activity always outstrips homosexual identification, said another way, men who have sex with men do not always identify as gay, nor do women who have sex with women identify as Lesbian.

The study you cited is more about terminology than activity. Of course, I doubt that makes any difference to your beliefs, but it is important in terms of the facts.

originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
I find it amazing and in fact incredible that so many of these transgender, LBTGQ, climate activists & flat earth (et al) children are lucky enough to be born to exactly the right parents. What are the chances eh? What a blessing!
/s

Oh, don't stop there. Isn't it great that heterosexual kids are born to heterosexual parents! Christian kids are born to Christians?

Lucky them.

originally posted by: Oppositeoftruth
a reply to: Gryphon66
It's no more rediculous than saying a man can be a woman, that's my point. You are what you are, and you can attack me for saying "left" and but fact is most of the people who push these agendas are on the left. It's very basic science, we're male or female, excluding the very very small amount of people born with some kind of disorder or gender mosaic, whatever it's called. That's a completely different thing.

Attack you? Nah, I asked for evidence. You don't have any.

"Push these agendas" are weasel words. Your post is transposing the description provided by the OP which was a concern based on one case into a general comment on your beliefs

The question can easily be turned around: why are you trying to push your ideas about sex, sexuality and gender on others?

You can define any of those terms as you like for yourself, but you can't let others make that dtermination?

As many folks do, you're arguing that sex and gender are the same. They aren't. Sex has to do with biology or physical reality and gender has to do with psychology or sense of self. Your claim is that someone's sense of self must always equate with their body, which ain't necessarily so.

Let's say there is an increasing number of people who identify as trans, which simply means they experience their gender as different from their biological sex. So? How does that harm you? How does it harm society? If there's no harm in letting someone live as they choose, why do you feel like your definitions are important for anyone but yourself?

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Gryphon66

I'm not forcing belief on anyone.

They are forcing their # on me and everyone else.

Someone is forcing you to transition to another gender?

Someone is forcing your kids to transition?

I find that unlikely.

You're being "forced" to allow people to be who they are and define themselves as they choose. You're being "forced" into awareness that not everyone agrees with your way of looking at the world.

a reply to: Raggedyman

Or are you inferring that all homo sapien sapiens , this modern generation are going to evolve into homo sapien sapien transgenders. That transgenderism is the next rung on your evolutionary scale .

No. But it seems you were.

Does the idea scare you?

a reply to: Raggedyman

You do realize that in order for a child to start any sort of transitional process, that there are a long series of physical and psychological tests and measures?

You don't walk into (or take your kid into) the doctors office and say "I want to be another gender" and get drugs and surgery.

The process usually takes several years. In fact, this is from the NHS in the UK:

Treatment for gender dysphoria aims to help people with the condition live the way they want to, in their preferred gender identity.

What this means will vary from person to person, and is different for children, young people and adults. Your specialist care team will work with you on a treatment plan that's tailored to your needs.

Most treatments offered at this stage are psychological, rather than medical or surgical. This is because the majority of children with suspected gender dysphoria don't have the condition once they reach puberty. Psychological support offers young people and their families a chance to discuss their thoughts and receive support to help them cope with the emotional distress of the condition, without rushing into more drastic treatments.

Here's similar information from the American Psychological Association.

a reply to: Phage

No I didn’t suggest that, you did
You called transgenderism and evolution, had nothing to do with me. I don’t believe in evolution, playing silly buggers aren’t you

I suggested that minorities grow into majorities, nothing to do with Neanderthals or cromagnon or hippies whatever
You said evolution proved that minorities stayed minorities when if you believe in evolution it’s blatantly wrong

Now I don’t think evolution will make people transgender, I am not an evolutionist And transgender people don’t bother me, sorry

Change your bait

a reply to: Raggedyman

I guess god better hurry up and smite these sinners!

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: Raggedyman
It is a serious issue
My son, when he was 6 or 7 believed he was sonic the hedgehog, wanted to sleep in the rabbit hutch and run everywhere
Well no hedgehogs where we come from so just told him hedgehogs slept in bed
That phased ended after the longest time, now he is a happy healthy little Ratchet and his sister is clank.
She doesn’t want to be clank, she wants to be a my little pony

My 2.5 year old daughter seems to have a thing for transformers... I mean, it is clear she wants to be a boy!

Maybe a transhuman , or a cyborg , or a robot , not a boy

a reply to: Gryphon66

My only "belief" is that a child doesn't know what it wants or needs in life at 8 years old.
My entire world and everything in it revolved around Lego blocks and Atari games at that age.

Never once did I or any kid I associated with say "I want to be a girl when I grow up"
A child's mind is fragile and very susceptible at that age.

A cult is a perfect example, people that are born into it, don't see the wrong or believe they are being brainwashed.
It's the entire world to them as they know it, because its all they know.

To the outside observer looking in - we can see all the wrong associated with it.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Raggedyman

Eventually fringe groups become the populace, sadly

Heh.
The minority become the majority? Dreadful.
Cro-magnon rules! Dude. Neanderthal drools.

Evolution in action.

So humanity is evolving into a bunch of chemically castrated beings that will more or less see themselves extinct within a few generations?

I guess we can call that progress. Progressives destroy whatever they touch.

Although if minorities become majorities, I'll be waiting for the day when albino animals rule the earth! It is, apparently, inevitable, no?

a reply to: Macenroe82

Even my parents told me about church that we'd go as a family while I was young, but when I was older I'd make up my own mind about it. They hoped I'd keep going, but it was my choice. I still keep the faith, but I don't keep attending church.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Raggedyman

Eventually fringe groups become the populace, sadly

Heh.
The minority become the majority? Dreadful.
Cro-magnon rules! Dude. Neanderthal drools.

Evolution in action.

So humanity is evolving into a bunch of chemically castrated beings that will more or less see themselves extinct within a few generations?

I guess we can call that progress. Progressives destroy whatever they touch.

It wont happen through transgenderism

but will happen via transhumanism

I am pessimistic about how humanity will deal with that era

because look how we treat gays , trans , and people of colour
never mind people who are no longer human because they have augmented themselves beyond the point to which they no longer resemble a homo sapien sapiens

a reply to: Macenroe82

Kids know more than we give them credit for I think. I'm not a big fan of indoctrinating a child into any number of things, but, that's the way our society works.

Our culture agrees that children are basically considered "non compos mentis" until they reach some arbitrary age, and until that time, parents have a large degree of control over how the children are raised. That age has fluctuated over time but the range is from the mid-teens to the mid-twenties.

Adulthood in Law and Culture

In regard to the topic at hand though, diagnosis and treatment are conducted by a team of medical and psychological professionals over a course of many years. The process is not whimsical nor under the parents' control as has been implied here.