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originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: Gryphon66
yeh It is confusing when we look at science , and see science slowly shifting back to a spiritual outlook , Slowly slowly
then we have things like the hermetic principles
there is the feminine and masculine in all of us , and we are not separate but one
if only we all thought that way , we wouldnt have all these issues
originally posted by: Wookiep
a reply to: Gryphon66
That was a really fascinating post. It left me scratching my head, as well I'm sure you felt the same. Thanks!
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Boadicea
The only thing that is generally true is that nothing is generally true.
That's the fundamental paradox of human language.
I don't understand the reality of the whole trans/non-binary/gender fluid experience. I am a man that enjoys being a man who likes men. I have no idea how a woman feels to be a woman. I literally cannot imagine what it would be like to feel in the depths of my body and soul that I am not what my body tells me I am. I can't; I've tried.
That seems like hell on earth though. How would it feel to know or believe in your heart that you are in the wrong body?
Betrayed?
I'll be the first to admit, I know some snotty little gay boys and non-gender-confirming brats that I'd just like to smack (metaphorically). I got introduced a few years ago into the trans/non-binary community because I got into a screaming match with a kid over proper pronoun use. He called me a cisgendered asshole.
I didn't even know what cisgendered meant at the time. I couldn't disagree with the asshole part in good conscience though.
His claim was that he was mis-gendered every day and it hurt him SO BAD.
I asked him what he meant by "misgendered." His answer was that some days he felt more masculine, some days more feminine and some days he just wandered in an androgynous wonderland I guess.
My question was ... how could I or anyone else possibly know what he/she/they were feeling that day? If he didn't know himself where he would find himself on the wildly resonnating ribbon of identity and gender and sex and orientation and ... yadda yadda ya ... how the hell should anyone else???
That's when he lost his stuff completely, called me an a-hole, and stormed off to the other side of the party.
I still don't know the answer, or even if I can know it.
originally posted by: sapien82
because of my post earlier about the spirituality and how science appears to be slowly crawling back to the mind before matter reality
and with the hermetic principles etc.
I think that the trans issue , has to do with reincarnation, on some level
and that people who are born into a shell
maybe have been born into the wrong one , or they still feel so strongly about their previous life
they feel it like they need to be it .
Maybe there is something going wrong with reincarnation and souls are going into the wrong shells
originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
a reply to: Boadicea
Simplistic is under rated.
I try very hard to reduce must things to their simplest form.
The Creator doesn't seem to place a lot of favor on sameness. Though it is believed that everything on Earth started with the exact same building materials, the end products are amazingly different. Right down to each snowflake. No pun intended.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
Addressing several fake claims here:
It is generally true to claim that there are two sexes, but as we learn more scientifically we learn that what is generally true is an approximation. Numbers and types of chromosomes are normal but there are variations on the norm.
Gender is associated but not the same as sex.
"Being a man or woman" is a statement about gender
Gender identity is how we EXPERIENCE our own gender. A trans identity basically implies that a person's experienced gender is not the same as their physiological sex.
Repeating that a male cannot become female at this point in our technological development is true but unnecessary in general and specifically in some cases just plain rude.
Claiming that a man cannot become a woman is merely a belief that is not supported by medical fact.
originally posted by: hadriana
a reply to: projectvxn
There's a social contagion aspect to this gender dysphoria that no one is really wanting to address. We all want to be compassionate, but we're losing our minds doing it.