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This is why I voted for Trump...

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posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 03:39 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: queenofswords

You're asking for suits against the Federal Government for civil rights violations thereby.

What possible value can that have for the nation as a whole?


WTH are you talking about?

Calling someone out for deception as Trump did regarding ABC and the fake "Syrian" explosions is not a civil rights violation. You don't make sense sometimes.




posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 03:51 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated

Trump would've been making some really valid points, if the US weren't already there and the reporter was asking why he didn't intervene and support the Kurd's.

But, the reality is, US troops were there... whether you think they should or should not of been there in the first place, is a completely different argument.

Fact is, they were there and Trump most definitely gave Turkey the "green light" to invade, by standing down and retreating.
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posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 04:01 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

You're still pedaling the separated families BS.

They were arrested for breaking the law. When you are under arrest your kids don't go with you.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 04:04 PM
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originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: queenofswords

You're asking for suits against the Federal Government for civil rights violations thereby.

What possible value can that have for the nation as a whole?


WTH are you talking about?

Calling someone out for deception as Trump did regarding ABC and the fake "Syrian" explosions is not a civil rights violation. You don't make sense sometimes.


Fair enough. Allow me to clarify.

Freedom of the Press is a civil right guaranteed in Amendment I. President Trump is the head of the Executive Branch of the Federal Government. IF he chooses to answer questions from a member of the Press, and verbally assaults them in his response, there is a case to be made for a violation of Civil Rights.

Why should Mr. Trump do that? For mere satisfaction?



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: Gryphon66

You're still pedaling the separated families BS.

They were arrested for breaking the law. When you are under arrest your kids don't go with you.


I'm not peddling anything.




Attorney General Jeff Sessions said the U.S. will take a stricter stance on illegal crossings at the Mexico border by separating parents from children, rather than keeping them together in detention centers. “If you are smuggling a child then we will prosecute you, and that child will be separated from you as required by law,” Sessions said Monday at a law enforcement event in Scottsdale, Ariz. “If you don’t like that, then don’t smuggle children over our border.”


TIME

"Will take" means wasn't taking before.

Emphasis mine.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 04:07 PM
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a reply to: watchitburn


They were arrested for breaking the law. When you are under arrest your kids don't go with you.


Seeking asylum is not against the law.


You're still pedaling the separated families BS.


Peddling BS? Mirror, mirror.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 04:08 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated

AHAHAHAHA!!! They just can't stop him no matter how hard they try... Love how he rep'd the people of South Carolina and said he doesn't give a damn what Lindsay thinks.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 04:13 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66




IF he chooses to answer questions from a member of the Press, and verbally assaults them in his response, there is a case to be made for a violation of Civil Rights.


No...not if he is calling them out for outright lies and deception as ABC did with the Kentucky videos claiming they were in Syria. That was not a mistake. That was intentional deception. Combine the video with their narrative and you have A BIG FAT LIE.

Trump and any one of us have every right to call the Press out for such things. No civil rights are violated by doing so.

Besides, much of the Press has been infiltrated. These so-called "journalists" and "reporters" are nothing but Democrat activists working for a news agency. Hiding under the "press" label is deceptive in and of itself, imo. Some of them are straight up clowns.


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posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 04:18 PM
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Can anyone show me video proof of fighting in Syria between the Kurds and the Turks the last few weeks?

I keep reading reports that sight sources close to the scene but never say who.

I was watching NBC news the other night and they had one of their reporters on the phone, so there was audio, saying he could hear gunfire. But couldnt he have just been in Detroit or Chicago?

The press have become completely unbelievable and that is just sad.

Lolz🤪



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 04:20 PM
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a reply to: queenofswords

"Calling them out" for lies is not an appropriate use of the President's "bully pulpit" in my opinion. I didn't think it was right when Obama did it to Fox News.

ABC's use of the Kentucky video is an anomaly. It is on the public record that they aired the wrong footage.

I cannot believe that ABC would perform such an irrational act intentionally. I can believe it slipped through the cracks. I can't prove that it wasn't done intentionally though, that's just my opinion. I believe this from a risk calculation POV, (maybe.)

If the Press lies and causes defamation, there are civil remedies available ... and should be pursued!

The President is different from the rest of us. He embodies the Executive Branch of the Federal Government.

Matters about the Press being "infiltrated" is just empty rhetoric. Reporters and journalists have the same rights as you, me, President Trump and the rest. They can be Democrats, Republicans, Independents etc. I understand that you're sharing your opinion, but from the Point of View of the First Amendment, the President is (and should be) limited in how he can defame the Press, just as they should be held accountable for the (alleged) lies you're referring to.

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posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 04:20 PM
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originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
There are mistakes then their are blatant malicious garbage reporting to mislead the public like the Kentucky video and Obama's child cages, not Trump's.

I'm 100% for a new agency to monitor and fine these media outlets. It's toxic and misleads the public. Small footnotes retractions are not good enough. They know exactly what they are doing. Fat lie, then a tiny fine print apology.


Exactly. They all got emboldened when the media didn't drop the "hands up don't shoot" lie. They finally just quit talking about it. No recant or anything. Same with the MLK bust, same with the "I could stand on 5th Avenue" lie, and the list goes on. It's like trickling a trail of gasoline and "accidentally" dropping a lit match on it and then running away to avoid responsibility for the damage you're gonna cause. Kids do it all the time, democrats are no different.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: Subaeruginosa

All due respect "giving the green light" usually implies giving direct permission. I haven't seen any evidence that Trump did that, have you?



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 04:23 PM
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a reply to: Scepticaldem




I was watching NBC news the other night


Well, there's your first mistake.


They probably borrowed the audio from the ABC Kentucky/Syria video and he was holding his phone up to it for the audience to hear. Was he all breathless and excited and spouting Orange Man Bad soundbites?



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

What rock have you been living under?

Edit: I do understand your ideal view of the Office. I just can not see how this can be upheld with the kind of attack the Office is getting.



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posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 04:26 PM
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originally posted by: Stupidsecrets

I'm 100% for a new agency to monitor and fine these media outlets. It's toxic and misleads the public. Small footnotes retractions are not good enough. They know exactly what they are doing. Fat lie, then a tiny fine print apology.




Ehhh That's just asking for trouble. Yes it's toxic but people can think for themselves if they want to. When you start fining free speech and monitoring it... Freedoms disappear.

This is how we lost our privacy.

This is how we're going to lose our gun rights.

This is how we end up in a prison state.


NO NO NO.... We don't police them. We don't monitor them. We don't fine them. We just let each other know and we damn sure should think for ourselves.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 04:28 PM
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"Calling them out" for lies is not an appropriate use of the President's "bully pulpit."


Baloney.

Who else is going to do it. The Press, as I said, is nothing but a bunch of employees working for the Media Arm of the DNC. If Trump doesn't call them out for their blatant lies against him, nobody will.

New era, my friend. New sheriff in town. What may not be appropriate in times past is downright necessary with today's enemedia.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 04:28 PM
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a reply to: Subaeruginosa

That's not giving the green light. But do you see how you focused on that and none of the other fake news the reporter was called out for? The problem is that all those who could make a difference in this country (media, etc) choose to ignore the known lies that Trump points out. If they would focus on that and frown upon said lies, thus making themselves trustworthy again, it could truly change the tempo of this country and end a lot of the senseless infighting. Democrats don't care, they have to be angry or they're not not happy.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 04:28 PM
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originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: Gryphon66




IF he chooses to answer questions from a member of the Press, and verbally assaults them in his response, there is a case to be made for a violation of Civil Rights.


No...not if he is calling them out for outright lies and deception as ABC did with the Kentucky videos claiming they were in Syria. That was not a mistake. That was intentional deception.



Ya think?

So in your mind, they carefully planned out this 'intentional deception', but at no point contemplated the fact that they'd never actually get away with it?

Honestly, I think someone just jumped the gun and made a huge mistake, as people do... its why pencils have erasers.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 04:29 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: queenofswords

You're asking for suits against the Federal Government for civil rights violations thereby.

What possible value can that have for the nation as a whole?


WTH are you talking about?

Calling someone out for deception as Trump did regarding ABC and the fake "Syrian" explosions is not a civil rights violation. You don't make sense sometimes.


Fair enough. Allow me to clarify.

Freedom of the Press is a civil right guaranteed in Amendment I. President Trump is the head of the Executive Branch of the Federal Government. IF he chooses to answer questions from a member of the Press, and verbally assaults them in his response, there is a case to be made for a violation of Civil Rights.

Why should Mr. Trump do that? For mere satisfaction?


I'm going to my boss's office right now and cuss him out lower than a dog. By your definition, he HAS to listen to me. If anyone shows up to manhandle me while carrying me out the door of this office building, they are violating my civil rights.

Got it. I'll let you know how that works out for me.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 04:30 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated




Watch him just curb stomp this ABC reporter...

Love how he just straight up states his position on Syria / Turkey. No double speak...


Wow!

I am really starting to like this guy!

I originally voted for him because, well, anyone but Hillary.

But over the course of the past few years he has really shown us all something.

He is beholden to no special interests - none.

He is beholden only to the American people, and as one of those people, I say - "Give 'em hell Mr. President!"



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