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The Actual Laws Trump Has Broken?

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posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:17 AM
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The Actual Laws Trump Has Broken, Just With the Ukraine and China Affairs, Could Land Him 10 Years in Prison


A variety of felony criminal statutes plainly implicate Trump’s behavior, and come with lengthy prison sentences — the types of sentences doled out for high crimes, to say nothing of misdemeanors. Indeed, many of them are straightforward. Altogether, if the impeachment inquiry is limited simply to Trump’s pressure on Ukraine, the charges could amount to more than 10 years in prison.



Take 18 U.S. Code § 872: “Extortion by officers or employees of the United States.” It’s not hard to grasp:



“Whoever, being an officer, or employee of the United States or any department or agency thereof, or representing himself to be or assuming to act as such, under color or pretense of office or employment commits or attempts an act of extortion, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”



As Trump’s envoys made clear in their since-disclosed text messages, Ukraine’s cooperation in the investigation of Joe and Hunter Biden was driven by the promise of a White House visit for President Volodymyr Zelensky and the threat of withholding military aid. That’s not just wrong, as Carlson and Patel rightly acknowledge, it’s also a felony, as the president and other Ukrainians no doubt had “fear of injury.”


Then there is this gem, Trump has said that he will refuse to cooperate with lawful subpoenas


2 U.S. Code § 192, “Refusal of witness to testify or produce papers,” punishable by a year in prison.


Oh and what about Bill Taylor:


Bill Taylor, the top American diplomat in Ukraine, reiterated in a text message to Trump official Gordon Sondland, strongly suggesting he was pursuing the strategy against his own wishes.


Sooo....

18 U.S. Code § 610, which covers that crime rather clearly under the title: “Coercion of political activity.”



“It shall be unlawful for any person to intimidate, threaten, command, or coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, command, or coerce, any employee of the Federal Government … to engage in … any political activity.” The sentence caps at three years.



It’s also illegal, according to 18 U.S. Code § 595, when a government official, “in connection with any activity which is financed in whole or in part by loans or grants made by the United States, or any department or agency thereof, uses his official authority for the purpose of interfering with, or affecting, the nomination or the election of any candidate for the office of President.” That statute could add another year to the sentence.


and finally we have this:


A prosecutor who wanted to stack charges against Trump could ding him for 18 U.S. Code § 607, “Place of solicitation,” and 52 U.S. Code § 30121, “Contributions and donations by foreign nationals.” Essentially, it’s illegal to solicit contributions to your presidential campaign from the Oval Office and illegal to solicit from foreign nationals no matter where you do it from: “It shall be unlawful for an individual who is an officer or employee of the Federal Government, including the President … to solicit or receive a donation of money or other thing of value in connection with a Federal, State, or local election,



Many posters here have continually asked "what crimes did trump commit?"

Well, there ya have it folks.

Now it will be interesting to see the trump folks come out to try and deflect. Should we start will the Hillary? The deep state? aliens? Lizards?

What deflection shall they use?????



theintercept.com...




posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:18 AM
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originally posted by: HanyManny


What deflection shall they use?????



I'll take "The President can't commit a crime" for 500, Alex.


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posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:19 AM
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When you guys assembling the guillotine?


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posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:21 AM
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Lol.....
Just....

Lol.....


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posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:23 AM
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Facts do not matter. The Dems decided they will impeach from day one. The rest is just for the show and for their PR machine, known as the MSM.

All ‘investigations’ are just a show.

They are using it, to interfere in the 2020 election. Period.
edit on 17-10-2019 by Goedhardt because: Spelling and pie



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:25 AM
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All ‘investigations’ are just a show. They are using it, to interfere in the 2020 election. Period.


Also to avoid getting anything productive or beneficial done for voting citizens, but that's par for the course.

The only silver lining may be that they are also less productive at passing legislation that's bad for US citizens... (but I'm sure they can make time for THAT over beneficial legislation, anyday)



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:29 AM
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posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:29 AM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
When you guys assembling the guillotine?


They already have, but they keep cutting their own thumbs off trying to work out it works.


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posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:31 AM
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Hanny Manny wakes up. Checks emails. Reads what he is to post today. Posts latest DNC garbage in various message boards.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:32 AM
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a reply to: HanyManny

I agree.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:35 AM
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“Whoever, being an officer, or employee of the United States or any department or agency thereof

does that include potus?
i will wait



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:37 AM
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hey are using it, to interfere in the 2020 election. Period.


No ''period'' make that a comma.

They are using it, to interfere in the 2020 election, or they are trying to utilize the US Constitution and lawfully attempting to impeach a maniac that has fooled a large portion of our citizens into believing that he had their best interests at heart when in reality all he wanted to do was to line his own pockets and bolster his own God-complex.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:39 AM
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So far only Ad hominem fallacious argumentative strategies to deflect from the topic at hand .

Par for the course - when you have no counter argument, go after the messenger.

I expected as much from the slower folks around here..



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:44 AM
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edit on 17-10-2019 by HanyManny because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:44 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: HanyManny



“Whoever, being an officer, or employee of the United States or any department or agency thereof

does that include potus?
i will wait



Wait for what? trump to be considered above the law of the US?

You are showing some lack of clarity about US law, and providing a deep insight into how far you are gone...

Lay off the trump worship - he is just a senile old man, not a god.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:44 AM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
When you guys assembling the guillotine?


When will Republicans show a little backbone and stand for the rule of law instead of always putting their party before country.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:44 AM
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a reply to: HanyManny

Your argument is the counter argument...



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:47 AM
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none of those things trump did even fit the descriptions you yourself posted.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:48 AM
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originally posted by: HanyManny

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: HanyManny



“Whoever, being an officer, or employee of the United States or any department or agency thereof

does that include potus?
i will wait



Wait for what? trump to be considered above the law of the US?

You are showing some lack of clarity about US law, and providing a deep insight into how far you are gone...

Lay off the trump worship - he is just a senile old man, not a god.


thanks for the non answer
it says more than your actual answer would

your assessment is askew and most likely incorrect



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:49 AM
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can you coherently explain - why no US legislator has presented articles of impeachment detailing the accusations of these " alledged crimes " to the house ?

it seems to me pretty simple :

select one or more of these alledge crimes

draw up one or more articles of impeachmement using the proper US legalease required

put it before the house for a vote [ be sure to have credible evidence if questioned ]

get the house to vote " impeach "

send the indictment to the senate [ they will organise a trail ] - and sit back to await thier verdict




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