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Who Says Trump Doesn't Know What He's Doing in Syria ?

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posted on Oct, 16 2019 @ 07:56 AM
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a reply to: Riffrafter




Get a grip. Sometimes things go the way you'd like and sometimes they don't.


Except that literally everyone else knew this would be another massacre.



It's *really* annoying to those of us that have children and lived thru that for years


Talking about annoying... at least you morons still have children. Get it?




posted on Oct, 16 2019 @ 05:37 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Willtell
Trump is an utter fool. Doesnt know what hes doing and whoever thinks he does is an idiot like he is.




That's pretty much how the rest of the world see it, it's only his loyal base that see something different.


Really? Because I saw a lot of pro-Trump signs in the UK, despite the Trump baby blimp (lol!). Saw a lot of pro-Trump signage in Japan, and so on.

So it must not be just his base. Unless you're suggesting that his base is...Global? The horror!



posted on Oct, 16 2019 @ 06:49 PM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454

No his base is less than half of America, the rest of the world think he's an idiot of the highest degree, you trump supporters are somewhat unique.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 03:43 PM
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a reply to: XCrycek

Just gonna leave this here

www.cnn.com...



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 04:18 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Wardaddy454

No his base is less than half of America, the rest of the world think he's an idiot of the highest degree, you trump supporters are somewhat unique.


Looking like more than half, after every Dem debate.


And you speak for the rest of the world? Because we even have members from other parts of the world that seem to support him.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 04:19 PM
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Don't hog all that humble pie now.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 05:07 PM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454

I know you really like the guy and that's fine, I'm simply calling it how I see it, you see it differently and that's also fine, it is what it is.



posted on Oct, 18 2019 @ 03:05 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Those in the Senate who want American Troops put back in harms way inside Syria, were BLOCKED from condemning President Trump's Syrian withdrawal today, by American Folk-hero, Senator RAND PAUL.

Source: theconservativetreehouse.com... thdrawal/




posted on Oct, 18 2019 @ 03:24 AM
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History, facts, Erdogan, The Kurds, The 200,000+ displaced refugees so far, al-Nusra in Afrin - read up on 'The first holocaust:
www.spokesmanbooks.com...

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What perfidy. Is there any more solemn a word that can be developed in the English language for such treachery? The west’s Kurdish allies are being betrayed all over again. Like Kissinger, like Trump. And here come the Turks again, once more playing their border games, pretending they are fighting against “terrorism” when they were perfectly prepared to assist al-Nusra in Afrin while oil from Isis flowed into the country. And Trump now suddenly realises that the Turks are not good allies when he was perfectly happy to let them invade northern Syriafour days ago.

If anything could be more illustrative of the madhouse in Washington it has been the divisive, insane “policy” which the Americans still claim to uphold in northern Syria. A hundred thousand displaced, dozens of civilians dead. In Damascus, the Assad regime must be appreciating this farce, although the chances of taking back territory from Turkey probably looks a good deal more dangerous. But the prospect of Syria’s invaders fighting each other will evoke only bitter reflection in a state where the government had almost won its war.

As for Trump himself, his preposterous remarks about Turkey and the Kurds – and Normandy, for heaven’s sake – and even the Second World War – merely prove once more that the US president is crackers. The Americans are leaving Syria, he told us some months ago. Then he says it again. And this is before anyone has thought about the resurrection of Isis, perhaps fleeing from their prisons along the border. Are we to have Isis back in Europe once more? Or fleeing along with the 3.6 million refugees with which Turkey has threatened Europe?

It is not just Trump who is causing chaos. It is the entire American empire, its maniacal foreign policies and the stream of Trump supporters whose ignorance is now at the heart of Washington’s establishment. How can the EU stand so idly by while Turkey has adopted what looks like ethnic cleansing on a vast scale? For it is their Arab militias who are now appearing in northern Syria. How can anyone justify this vile business?

How tragically, how terrifyingly, how pitifully the Kurds were betrayed. Is this how Erdogan intends to go down in history after 16 years of power? First he accuses his own army of being behind the attempted coup against him in Turkey – then he sends the same army into Syria. Maybe Erdogan and Trump have more in common that we imagine.

But the events of this past week have also shown how international governance has broken down across the Middle East region, how failure at the centres of power has – especially in the most powerful nation on earth – led to an endemic and hopeless war. Because of Trump’s foolishness – his arcane stupidity – dozens are now dying again in the region. It is a sad and dangerous world in which the Middle East now exists and it will become more so in the coming weeks.

How long ago seem those revolutions of 2011, how the small lights of hope have disappeared so fast. Egypt is now a brutal dictatorship. Libya remains in chaos. So, too, Yemen. There is not a functioning democracy in the Arab world (save perhaps, for Lebanon). And the Americans still believe in new freedoms in Saudi Arabia – though not, of course, for one missing journalist and American resident whose body parts we may never find. Jamal Kashoggi’s voice would have been one to listen to today. But his memory has also been besmirched by Trump’s total abasement to the Saudi royal family. Perfidy indeed.

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posted on Oct, 18 2019 @ 06:09 AM
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Trump downplays the ethnic cleansing and war crimes in an ongoing war for thousands of years (over 100 years since the Allies promised Kurds their own independent state Kurdistan) for their help in WW1 as 'kids in a playground fight':

www.bbc.co.uk...

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US President Donald Trump has compared the deadly conflict between Turkish forces and Kurds in north-eastern Syria to a fight between children.

"Like two kids in a lot, you have got to let them fight and then you pull them apart," he told a rally in Texas.

Turkey has agreed to a US request to suspend operations so long as Kurdish fighters leave the border area.

Concern is growing about possible war crimes by Turkey and allied militia since the offensive began on 9 October.

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan moved against Kurdish forces in Syria after Mr Trump announced he was pulling US forces out of Syria's north-eastern border region with Turkey.

His aim is to push Kurdish militants, which Turkey regards as terrorists, away from northern-most Syria and create a "safe zone" for resettling up to two million Syrian refugees currently in Turkey.

Between 160,000 and 300,000 people are reported to have fled their homes since the fighting started, and there are fears the Turkish operation may lead to the ethnic cleansing of the local Kurdish population.

As well as alienating the Kurds, who were instrumental in defeating the Islamic State group in Syria, Mr Trump has faced withering criticism from Republican allies over his decision to move US troops aside ahead of Turkey's invasion.

Earlier this week an extraordinary letter from Mr Trump to Mr Erdogan telling the Turkish leader not to "be a fool" emerged, with Turkish sources telling the BBC that Mr Erdogan binned the letter.


But on Thursday, in Texas, Mr Trump defended his handling of the crisis.

"It was unconventional what I did," he told his supporters. "I said they're going to have to fight a little while... They fought for a few days and it was pretty vicious."
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Nearly 500 people have been killed since the offensive started, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR), a UK-based monitoring group.

These include 224 members of the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces and 183 Turkish-backed rebels but also 72 civilians, according to the SOHR.

Amnesty International says it has gathered "damning evidence of war crimes and other violations by Turkish forces and their allies".

It accuses them of carrying out summary executions and attacking civilians indiscriminately.

Hevrin Khalaf, a Kurdish female politician killed on 12 October, was dragged out of her car, beaten and shot dead by Turkish-backed Syrian fighters, Amnesty says.

"Turkish military forces and their allies have displayed an utterly callous disregard for civilian lives, launching unlawful deadly attacks in residential areas that have killed and injured civilians," said Kumi Naidoo, Amnesty's secretary general.

A spokesman for the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights warned earlier that summary executions were "serious violations" of international humanitarian law and could "amount to a war crime".


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So much for 4d chess.

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posted on Oct, 18 2019 @ 07:03 AM
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originally posted by: Another_Nut
a reply to: xuenchen

Can someone say 4d?

I knew you could

Cant wait to hear more about this

ETA
Nb4 trolls call this impeachable or an accident


This isn't even chinese checkers. This is a terrible outcome. Turkey has given the Kurds 5 days to surrender key strategic towns, and is allowing Russia to move in to "keep the peace".

Turkey wins, Russia wins, the Kurds are ethnically cleansed instead of being subjected to genocide. America's allies are out, its enemies are in.

Foreign nations can't decide whether trump was naive, incompetent, or both. And Republicans are denouncing him for abandoning loyal allies. This has divided the GOP more than anything else that he's ever done.

Oh, and hundreds of people are dead, and hundreds is isis fighters and their families have escaped

If Trump is really playing 4 dimensional chess he's just sacrifised a whole bunch of pawns for absolutely no gain whatsoever.

Maybe we should club together and buy him a Switch. I'd much rather he played Mario Cart than whatever game he currently thinks that he's playing.

This is a disaster for The Kurds and for America's reputation.

I will tell you how bad this is. Israel is now questioning whether trump will abandon them. Even under Obama this did not happen.



posted on Oct, 18 2019 @ 05:42 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Wardaddy454

I know you really like the guy and that's fine, I'm simply calling it how I see it, you see it differently and that's also fine, it is what it is.


I'm not the one letting my disdain cloud reality..



posted on Oct, 18 2019 @ 05:46 PM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454

Your reality is not my reality.



posted on Oct, 19 2019 @ 01:01 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Wardaddy454

Your reality is not my reality.


I'd suggest you talk to someone about that then.



posted on Oct, 22 2019 @ 06:40 PM
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Just another drop for those who said it wasnt happening

www.abovetopsecret.com...




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