A New-To-Me Theory on 9/11

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: neutronflux

Your lazy

No....you're lazy.

How hard is it to briefly state your theory?

I feel that you are embarrassed by your own theory....... that's why you won't state it.

Read through this thread...

This will answer 99% of your questions about 9/11.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Your crap is the same old crap different day.

a reply to: neutronflux
So you are unwilling to tell me your theory.....ok nevermind then.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: neutronflux
So you are unwilling to tell me your theory.....ok nevermind then.

Not willing to unbiasedly and objectively read through past threads where the tired fantasy of nukes as repeatedly and soundly been debunked.

Got it.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Or this might be the one I was trying to find?

Thread

New 911 Evidence Solves Unanswered Questions

posted on Aug, 8 2018 @ 04:40

www.abovetopsecret.com...


originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Willtell

Why it wasn’t a nuke weapon....

One. If there is not enough fissionable material, it’s just a dirty bomb. There is a threshold of weapons grade radioactive material needed to create a nuclear reaction. Anything below the amount would just be conventional explosives used to start the nuclear reaction tainted with radioactive material.

Two. Most of the early documented cancer cases are from exposure from working the WTC rubble. The radiation and contamination would have been the greatest at detention. People would have died with in days, if not hours, from radiation poisoning. Then people present at the WTC on 9/11 should have started to develope cancer at the same time, or sooner.

Three, people at the WTC on 9/11 would have had the greatest exsposure to contamination and radiation. But the following would be true for people working the WTC rubble too. If there was contamination, people would have spread it to ambulances, hospitals, homes, fire stations, cars, the subway, fire trucks, restaurants. The WTC rubble was taken to Fresh Kills for sorting and examining. The people working the site should have cancer and sickness rates same as the workers at the WTC. Probably the same for the drivers of trucks moving WTC rubble.

Four. No indications of an over pressure event from a detention that would have blown out building windows and car windows.

Five. The collapse of the WTC started with no audible blast.

Six. For WTC 1 and 2, the collapse was triggered by the walls bowing inward.

Seven. Magnetic recordings and radio broadcasting during the buildings’ collapse should show interference from electromagnetic radiation / EPM pulse.

Eight. The radiation blast should have activated material at the WTC.

Bottom line. There is no evidence of a floor to floor CD system for any building the truth movement claims had to be present to achieve the witnessed rates of collapse.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Thanks for that. It's much better seeing and hearing him deliver the message.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: Itisnowagain

Thanks for that. It's much better seeing and hearing him deliver the message.

Doesn’t change the fact that nuke CD is a delusional fantasy based on ignorance and pseudoscience. And you falsely parading WTC first responders as victims of radiation poisoning sets a new desperate low for the truth movement. Nuke delusional fantasies is one reason the truth movement lost all credibility.

a reply to: neutronflux

Posts like yours are the main reason so few people put any credibility into the official narrative.

Heinz Pommer makes sense whilst you play the fool in denial of facts.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: neutronflux

Posts like yours are the main reason so few people put any credibility into the official narrative.

Heinz Pommer makes sense whilst you play the fool in denial of facts.

If there was so much radiation to keep steel boiling for months, then people should have dropped like flys at the WTC pile within hours of arriving to work. As in drop dead with violent vomiting. If you overlook that fact that proves the nuke fantasy is delusional crap. Then radiation should have been spread from the WTC to Fresh Kills where the debris were dumped. The trucks carrying the rubble should have been contaminated. The steel should have boiled through their beds. The truck drivers and cops working fresh kills should have radiation poisoning. The truck loads should have been boiling in your fantasy on the drive to Fresh Kills land fill. The steel sitting at Fresh Kills in you fantasy should have sat there boiling and radiating. The rubble where it was buried should still be giving off radiation.

The nuke CD fantasy is crap, based on lies and pseudoscience.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: Itisnowagain

Thanks for that. It's much better seeing and hearing him deliver the message.

You are welcome.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: Itisnowagain

Thanks for that. It's much better seeing and hearing him deliver the message.

You are welcome.

Reinforce ignorance. The opposite of what ATS stands for. And wallow in the glory of ignorance and pseudoscience.

a reply to: neutronflux
True ignorance is calling something bs when you have not even veiwed it.

It is a NEW theory......the book was only published this year......but you appear to be stuck in 2018 (trying to prove something by quoting a post from 2018).

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: neutronflux
True ignorance is calling something bs when you have not even veiwed it.

It is a NEW theory......the book was only published this year......but you appear to be stuck in 2018 (trying to prove something by quoting a post from 2018).

There is zero evidence any nukes used at the WTC. No evidence of any nuclear reactions working on the steel. No indication of radiation above background that shows there was enough uranium as an example that would have the amount needed to cause damage to the steel. No resulting fission products above background to show a nuclear reaction took place with the strength to weaken the steel.

Let’s put things in prospective.

Elephant's Foot (Chernobyl)

The Elephant's Foot is composed primarily of silicon dioxide, with traces of uranium, titanium, zirconium, magnesium and graphite.[1][2][5][6] The mass is largely homogeneous,[citation needed] though the depolymerized silicate glass contains occasional crystalline grains of zircon. These grains of zircon are not elongated, suggesting a moderate crystallization rate. While uranium dioxide dendrites grew quickly at high temperatures within the lava, the zircon began crystallization during slow cooling of the lava. Despite the distribution of uranium-bearing particles not being uniform, the radioactivity of the mass is evenly distributed.[citation needed] The mass is quite dense and unyielding to a drill mounted on a remote-controlled trolley, but able to be damaged by a rifle using armor piercing rounds.[4][1][2] By June 1998, the outer layers had started turning to dust and the mass had started to crack.[7]

Lethality Edit

At the time of its discovery, about 8 months after formation, radioactivity near the Elephant's Foot was approximately 8,000 roentgens, or 80 grays per hour,[2] delivering a 50/50 lethal dose of radiation (4.5 grays)[8] within five minutes.[2] Since that time the radiation intensity has declined enough that, in 1996, the Elephant's Foot was visited by the Deputy Director of the New Confinement Project, Artur Korneyev,[a] who took photographs using an automatic camera and a flashlight to illuminate the otherwise dark room.[10]

The Elephant's Foot had flowed through at least 2 m (6.6 ft) of pipes and fissures to reach its current location.[4] There were fears that the corium might continue to penetrate deeper into the ground and come into contact with groundwater, contaminating the area's drinking water and leading to illnesses and deaths;[11] however, as of 2016, the mass has not moved significantly since its discovery and is estimated to be only slightly warmer than its environment due to heat from the ongoing nuclear decay.[10]

The Chernobyl “ Elephant's Foot was approximately 8,000 roentgens, or 80 grays per hour,[2] delivering a 50/50 lethal dose of radiation (4.5 grays)[8] within five minutes.” Was solid.

A solid mass that was not boiling could deliver a 50/50 leather dose of radiation in 5 minutes.

If there was enough nuclear materials/nuclear reactions to boil steel for three months as Salander claims. Or enough to melt steel to make a structure like a twin tower to collapse, people would have died violently of radiation poisoning on the day of 9/11. Survivors with in days losing hair and teeth, symptoms of vomiting. The radiation levels would be evident and obvious. With Manhattan still contaminated above levels for safe occupation. With the areas where the WTC debris was buried obviously contaminated and poisoned by radiation.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Yes. The claim the WTC was brought down by any nuclear reaction is BS, unfounded, totally lacking any tale sign evidence, and does not match known cases of melted cores.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

So. If the old theory of nukes lack total merit, why would a “new” theory have merit in the total absence of radiation above background, contamination, and fission/decay products?

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Here is a video presentation in English which was uploaded onto yt 3 weeks ago.......if you are still interested.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Nope. Because there is zero evidence concerning nuclear reactions taking place at the WTC to weaken and “boil” steel.

Unless you can argue something credible?

Nuclear reactions bringing down the WTC is a lie. Sorry.

Again.

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: neutronflux
True ignorance is calling something bs when you have not even veiwed it.

It is a NEW theory......the book was only published this year......but you appear to be stuck in 2018 (trying to prove something by quoting a post from 2018).

There is zero evidence any nukes used at the WTC. No evidence of any nuclear reactions working on the steel. No indication of radiation above background that shows there was enough uranium as an example that would have the amount needed to cause damage to the steel. No resulting fission products above background to show a nuclear reaction took place with the strength to weaken the steel.

Let’s put things in prospective.

Elephant's Foot (Chernobyl)

The Elephant's Foot is composed primarily of silicon dioxide, with traces of uranium, titanium, zirconium, magnesium and graphite.[1][2][5][6] The mass is largely homogeneous,[citation needed] though the depolymerized silicate glass contains occasional crystalline grains of zircon. These grains of zircon are not elongated, suggesting a moderate crystallization rate. While uranium dioxide dendrites grew quickly at high temperatures within the lava, the zircon began crystallization during slow cooling of the lava. Despite the distribution of uranium-bearing particles not being uniform, the radioactivity of the mass is evenly distributed.[citation needed] The mass is quite dense and unyielding to a drill mounted on a remote-controlled trolley, but able to be damaged by a rifle using armor piercing rounds.[4][1][2] By June 1998, the outer layers had started turning to dust and the mass had started to crack.[7]

Lethality Edit

At the time of its discovery, about 8 months after formation, radioactivity near the Elephant's Foot was approximately 8,000 roentgens, or 80 grays per hour,[2] delivering a 50/50 lethal dose of radiation (4.5 grays)[8] within five minutes.[2] Since that time the radiation intensity has declined enough that, in 1996, the Elephant's Foot was visited by the Deputy Director of the New Confinement Project, Artur Korneyev,[a] who took photographs using an automatic camera and a flashlight to illuminate the otherwise dark room.[10]

The Elephant's Foot had flowed through at least 2 m (6.6 ft) of pipes and fissures to reach its current location.[4] There were fears that the corium might continue to penetrate deeper into the ground and come into contact with groundwater, contaminating the area's drinking water and leading to illnesses and deaths;[11] however, as of 2016, the mass has not moved significantly since its discovery and is estimated to be only slightly warmer than its environment due to heat from the ongoing nuclear decay.[10]

The Chernobyl “ Elephant's Foot was approximately 8,000 roentgens, or 80 grays per hour,[2] delivering a 50/50 lethal dose of radiation (4.5 grays)[8] within five minutes.” Was solid.

A solid mass that was not boiling could deliver a 50/50 leather dose of radiation in 5 minutes.

If there was enough nuclear materials/nuclear reactions to boil steel for three months as Salander claims. Or enough to melt steel to make a structure like a twin tower to collapse, people would have died violently of radiation poisoning on the day of 9/11. Survivors with in days losing hair and teeth, symptoms of vomiting. The radiation levels would be evident and obvious. With Manhattan still contaminated above levels for safe occupation. With the areas where the WTC debris was buried obviously contaminated and poisoned by radiation.

a reply to: neutronflux

Unless you can argue something credible?

All you need to do is watch the video.😀
And then I would love to know if you think the new theory is credible or not.

I think you will like the presentation because it even mentions your name.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: neutronflux

Unless you can argue something credible?

All you need to do is watch the video.😀
I would love to know if you think the new theory is credible or not.

I think you will like the presentation because it even mentions your name.

How could it be credible when there is zero evidence there was a nuclear reaction big enough to effect the WTC in anyway.

The argument is dead on arrival.