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Does Big Brother Own You via Your Car or Truck? My Experience with GM Software Update PART II

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posted on Oct, 13 2019 @ 02:53 PM
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This is an update to my original thread that I posted on September 11, 2019. Another GM software update was sent to my truck on or about October 6, 2019. This time I was out and about and when I parked in a Walmart lot the screen gave a warning about a pending 10 minute update.

PART I

However, this time it contained al sorts of on screen information, including what will happen if I accept the download, the time to update @ 10 minutes and that the car must be in park, turned off and you must exit the car immediately after you accept the update with the engine off and take your keys. I finally accepted the update on October 11, 2019 with the truck parked in the garage. Guess what. It worked just fine so what happened back on 911.

Regardless of any opinions out there GM is not a fooked up organization. No way would that 911 software upgrade would have been rolled out by them, that sloppy. I worked Engine and Transmission Launches for World Wide Purchasing and worked in several countries including a two plus year pre bankrupt Black Ops project over in Shanghai China Vehicle Assembly Operations. The black Op was to not spy on China. It was to preserve and upgrade the top 50 worst suppliers and supply base throughout Asia Pacific.

So what do I think? Who in their right mind would launch a substantial 45 minute software upgrade on 911 with no instructions. Just a touch screen icon to accept or decline?

So just a shout out to the NSA! Hay this is a conspiracy site? Right

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posted on Oct, 13 2019 @ 03:42 PM
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originally posted by: Waterglass
...and that the car must be in park, turned off and you must exit the car immediately after you accept the update with the engine off and take your keys. ...


What the FOOK is that all about??????????????


The day any car tells me what to do is the day I get RID of said car! Wait...is the day I SHOOT said car numerous times through the vital organs...and then light it on fire!
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posted on Oct, 13 2019 @ 03:50 PM
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What, is it going to turn the radio on full blast, along with your wipers and your defroster set on high???

Does it have an ejection seat which might accidentally go off???

Did it tell you to run away as fast as you could when you got out of the car??? Was it going to blow up???

Jump off the nearest bridge???

WTF, over????
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posted on Oct, 13 2019 @ 04:17 PM
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We bought a Cadillac DeVille one time. Looked like the freakin' Space Shuttle inside. I didn't know what half of the crap on that car did. Actually kinda' hated that car in general. Anyway, about the second day I was adjusting the mirror and all of a sudden this voice started talking to me. WTAF, over? Who is this, and how the hell did you get into my car??? Well, it's On-Star and I somehow pushed the button. CRAP, I don't even want On-Star...even a little bit. I told them to disconnect themselves, but they said NOOOooooooo.

So I went took the damn thing to the dealer and told them to disconnect that S# from my car, PRONTO! They said they couldn't do that.

I said either they do it, right then, or was gonna' do it...with a friggin' claw hammer! Guy told me I could do whatever I want to it; it was my car. DAMMIT! That didn't make me feel any better. I thought about ripping that damn rearview mirror right off the car and tossing it into the parking lot, just for spite.

You know, I didn't even like the color of that car. I don't even know why we bought it. My wife didn't even like it. WTF was I thinking???? Anyway, back to the story...

So I took the car down to my mechanic and told him to do it. He said he could "maybe" do it, but he was kinda skeered and that he hadn't ever really done it yet. Couldn't make any guarantees. I asked him what was the worst thing that could happen. He says...Oh, I dunno, maybe it won't run anymore after that. Well, F# me sideways, can't have that!

So I'm drivin' down the road with my invisible passenger glued to the windshield. I'm just glaring at her. Then I thought up an idea. I'll push that damn button. The gal comes on and I just said sorry, didn't mean to push the button. She hangs up. I push the button again. The gal comes on and I just said sorry, didn't mean to push the button. I did this about 50 to 100 more times (hey it was a long way home) and finally they came on, some dude this time, and said my On-star must malfunctioning. And the guy got very stern with me and said he was going to have to shut the service off, and how it couldn't be activated until I took it to a dealer. I acted real skeered, and said I'd take the car in immediately. I don't know if them things had cameras in them, but if they did they saw me grinnin' from ear to ear and pumpin' my fist in the air.

Never did take that car back in, but we sold it a couple years later and the couple who bought it said..."what's this button do?" I said..."DON'T DO IT!!", but it was too late. Same chick came on and asked what the hell I wanted. So I guess they must have turned it back on at some point.

Don't miss that ugly car one bit either. Did I mention I never liked that car?
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posted on Oct, 13 2019 @ 04:17 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

It's most likely so people won't do something that inadvertently interrupts the upload. How many people can sit in a car for 10 minutes and not play with any buttons, stereo, etc. It's for the folk that can't keep their hands to themselves.



posted on Oct, 13 2019 @ 04:27 PM
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a reply to: Waterglass
I never let the upgrade happen until I'm home. Your working history is very interesting. I've always thought that GM had to give up way too much intellectual property to do business in China. You should have been spying on them actually.



posted on Oct, 13 2019 @ 04:28 PM
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a reply to: Waterglass

Jokes on them. I don't own a car.



posted on Oct, 13 2019 @ 04:36 PM
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Jokes on them. I don't own a car.

I hear you and respect that! For me, I can't imagine life without one. Maybe it's a generational thing but there's just a certain satisfaction from driving. it goes back to when I was a kid. First a bicycle then a dirt bike and snowmobiles. Next a car and finally a slew of muscle cars. 50 years later, I still get a smile and joy from driving provided there's enough horsepower at my disposal.



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posted on Oct, 13 2019 @ 05:26 PM
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Flagg...they did it years ago with Caterpillar and John Deer......don't buy a new John Deer



posted on Oct, 13 2019 @ 06:01 PM
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a reply to: Waterglass

Why do you have to exit the car immediately? What the hell? Why can't you be in your car when the update runs? What the hell?



posted on Oct, 13 2019 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: KansasGirl

because they're going to turn on this song...FULL BLAST!! (i.e. on volume setting #11) Like 400 decibels!



...until your head explodes!!!!

OR...this one is also one of their favorites...



P.S.- I honestly don't know how this girl is ever going to live this song down!! It's got to be the most horrible song ever created in the history of music!! Shoot, even in the history of banging on things. Can you imagine being 60 years old and having to explain this song to someone?? Your kids??? I'd jump out a window first!

Can you imagine what Mozart would done if he heard this song???? It wouldn't be printable.

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posted on Oct, 13 2019 @ 08:23 PM
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We drive eighteen year old cars. No online BS, no updates, no factory connections, only basic computer controlled modules and I can't stand those. I love the economy and power but the rest can take a flying leap as far as I'm concerned. Body modules to control the power doors, windows and locks? That's also BS. As long as I can help it we will not own cars that connect to anyone.



posted on Oct, 13 2019 @ 08:48 PM
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a reply to: HalWesten

Same here. I won't drive anything newer than a 97.
Currently have a discovery that I worked around the security features so I can do whatever I want without protest.

After a while its going to get pulled apart for either a 4bt cummins or old ford 5.0 efi with a painless wiring harness.



posted on Oct, 13 2019 @ 08:54 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Thanks for making my ears bleed. Now every time I go and get Chinese food that song will be in my head. Would be a great short video to a MST3K movie. I can clearly see Crow and Tom losing their lunches over this one.



posted on Oct, 13 2019 @ 09:47 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Ever mess with your computer during an update, the problems you have after that can make you want to get out the gas and matches. GM uses delayed power relays to run some accessories after the key has been turned off and it can cause an uneven power supply to the computer which will mess with the software update. Just sitting there will trigger the seatbelt sensor and sometimes the interior lights.

Some power programmers require that you remove some of the accessory fuses to fully disable them from triggering during a reprogramming, failure to do this could turn your car into a brick.

Onstar is like a built-in cell phone with GPS tracking for emergency road side assistance and it can do things like unlocking your doors if you lock the keys inside and also it’s linked to things like Stolen Vehicle Slowdown and Automatic Airbag Deployment Notification. If you want to disable Onstar just pull out the fuse.



posted on Oct, 13 2019 @ 10:43 PM
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So, we are looking at possibly buying a Subaru Forester. Will the upgrades come from Japan?



posted on Oct, 13 2019 @ 10:57 PM
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dont know where to post this but my comp has gone crazy, i now have some robotic lady reading all my posts from facebook help



posted on Oct, 13 2019 @ 10:58 PM
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now its reading your posts



posted on Oct, 14 2019 @ 08:11 AM
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a reply to: rickymouse

Neither one of our (2) Subaru's do this. We have a '16 and a '19 Outback.

BTW...don't get the Forrester, get the Outback instead. It's a much better design. (and it holds more stuff).


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posted on Oct, 14 2019 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: KansasGirl

That's what is in the statement and they also wrote to unlock the doors manually so no one gets locked inside. Scouts honor.



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