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NEW Yowie evidence in Watagans NP - REALLY strange smell and structures

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posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 07:48 PM
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As a follow up to my previous post on the Yowie call recording, I just posted a part two where i actually came across more evidence. I need some experts eyes on here, as towards the end of the video I found some stick structures which I am curious about - I thought they were just sticks, but perhaps there's more to it? Im not sure, Yowie experts - have at it!!




posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 09:33 PM
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a reply to: srsen

Good on ya for following through with this. I replied to you lost OP regarding a few aspects included in that vid.

Just my observations. The bent trees look like wattle saplings to me. Not uncommon. I had them all over my place at one time. They grow fast in one season, and are known as 'Pioneer' trees locally here. Great thing about these trees are the blossoms, bees love them. On larger ones the sap is edible. The weak roots rot quickly and are attached by grubs. Often they bend in all directions onto the ground and occasionally tangle up. These small ones die rapidly and can litter the forest floor. Grasses grown well under the larger ones. Something to do with the nitrogen so I never removed the bigger wattles until they started shedding and dying.

The dead wood burns hot, but quickly and basically leaves a fine ash. Great for starting a camp fire followed by some harder strains of timber. Fallen bits rot quickly in the wet. Fungi takes over with bugs and worms. Good for the soil. Hence 'Pioneer' trees.

I've gone on a bit here, haven't I. Just explaining my perspective. The tripods, I've seen them formed from the different angles timbers form dropping from the canopy. Straight long sticks inserted into the soil occur often after a blow from small to larger spear like branches. Wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of those. I suggest checking the tripods you see and determining what sort of timber they are. If it's brittle but hard dead wattle this might be a natural occurrence.

I look forward to another vid mate. Great adventure in the bush you are having.

Kind regards,

Bally


edit on 11-10-2019 by bally001 because: Spelling



posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 10:08 PM
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Enjoyed the video.

I think your reservations on the possible structures is a sound and practical one. You can always compare what footage you shoot with other future areas too, video is better than a notebook and pencil (and quicker to document too imho).

The smell intrigues me. Was the burnt wire smell bad enough to make your eyes water. I had a sulfuric smell once followed by some tree branch snaps that although I can't prove anything always made me wonder if it was from a hairy bipedal. It literally felt like my nostrils were getting singed/burnt as I inhaled.

Also.. you mentioned that among the gifts was a precious stone yet I didn't recall you mentioning it being there or moved.

I think also (conjecture here), that you might try an experiment with having your gifts on a higher area (like an upright tree stump/log or large boulder) might be interesting and maybe keep some of the other animals at bay too.

Am relieved to know that your arm and pants remained in good working condition. Nothing worse than wandering around and exploring half-naked and missing an arm.


Johnny



posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 11:34 PM
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a reply to: srsen

A few years back I got a small addiction to watching and listening to anything Sasquatch related. The fascination led me to listen to over a thousand accounts via Sasquatch Chronicles, Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio and Youtube. This in no way makes me any more knowledgeable on the subject than the next person, but I did start to notice certain similarities in the accounts.
There are many accounts that start with someone pulling off the road or walking into the woods to urinate. It started showing how territorial they can be and will make themselves known if you start territorial marking their area. Sure you already urinate in the forest, but maybe if you marked their markers you could get their attention, I'm just not sure if it's the attention you really want. The time of day also increases your chance of running into one. I would guesstimate that your best chances are around 2-5 AM, but I would really encourage to not do any of this by yourself.

It is thought that they travel using low areas such as ravines, rivers and creek beds as road ways, if you see them in the mountains it's because they are crossing over. It is also thought that they stay off of game trails only occasionally crisscrossing them.

You could try spraying some perfume around. Introduce your own obnoxious odor to their environment and see how they react. Leave a scarf sprayed with perfume, tied head height in a tree, and see if anything removes it. It could be seen as a territorial marker and they may leave their own, or remove yours, or both.

Whatever you decide to do be careful and good luck.

edit on 11-10-2019 by TheLieWeLive because: Oopsy



posted on Oct, 12 2019 @ 12:24 AM
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a reply to: TheLieWeLive

Personal scent markers via urine, excellent idea.

The whitetail bucks around here will scratch out a "piss bed" to mark and just above that they use a small branch to mark with another scent gland somewhere on their face I believe. Plus they will scrap the bark off smaller trees as a marker as well. They are attracted to doe urine (probably any urine) and I imagine menses even more.

The deer are typical in how they use sent as a marker as are most wild mammals. I should think that cryptids like Yowies and other wild harry hominids do the same. A very clever idea that I've never heard of being used when hunting for a big foot and his kin.



posted on Oct, 12 2019 @ 04:12 AM
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Yowies seem to be attracted to cooked meat.

Why don't you cook some snags and leave them on a high rock near a creek.

Do that each time you go up, to show you are happy to share your meat.

Maybe you'll make a friend.



posted on Oct, 12 2019 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: bally001
a reply to: srsen

Good on ya for following through with this. I replied to you lost OP regarding a few aspects included in that vid.

Just my observations. The bent trees look like wattle saplings to me. Not uncommon. I had them all over my place at one time. They grow fast in one season, and are known as 'Pioneer' trees locally here. Great thing about these trees are the blossoms, bees love them. On larger ones the sap is edible. The weak roots rot quickly and are attached by grubs. Often they bend in all directions onto the ground and occasionally tangle up. These small ones die rapidly and can litter the forest floor. Grasses grown well under the larger ones. Something to do with the nitrogen so I never removed the bigger wattles until they started shedding and dying.

The dead wood burns hot, but quickly and basically leaves a fine ash. Great for starting a camp fire followed by some harder strains of timber. Fallen bits rot quickly in the wet. Fungi takes over with bugs and worms. Good for the soil. Hence 'Pioneer' trees.

I've gone on a bit here, haven't I. Just explaining my perspective. The tripods, I've seen them formed from the different angles timbers form dropping from the canopy. Straight long sticks inserted into the soil occur often after a blow from small to larger spear like branches. Wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of those. I suggest checking the tripods you see and determining what sort of timber they are. If it's brittle but hard dead wattle this might be a natural occurrence.

I look forward to another vid mate. Great adventure in the bush you are having.

Kind regards,

Bally



thanks for that insight man, what youve described is VERY possible - when i saw them i suspected some kind of natural occurance but didnt have the knowledge to understand it - what you suggested is very plausible. Rotting roots is a giveaway in my mind as this seems to be a theme in the area - likely some kind of mycillium?

Anyway thanks for the support on the channel man - do appreciate it


originally posted by: JohnnyAnonymous
Enjoyed the video.

I think your reservations on the possible structures is a sound and practical one. You can always compare what footage you shoot with other future areas too, video is better than a notebook and pencil (and quicker to document too imho).

The smell intrigues me. Was the burnt wire smell bad enough to make your eyes water. I had a sulfuric smell once followed by some tree branch snaps that although I can't prove anything always made me wonder if it was from a hairy bipedal. It literally felt like my nostrils were getting singed/burnt as I inhaled.

Also.. you mentioned that among the gifts was a precious stone yet I didn't recall you mentioning it being there or moved.

I think also (conjecture here), that you might try an experiment with having your gifts on a higher area (like an upright tree stump/log or large boulder) might be interesting and maybe keep some of the other animals at bay too.

Am relieved to know that your arm and pants remained in good working condition. Nothing worse than wandering around and exploring half-naked and missing an arm.


Johnny


hey mate - OK, the smell wasnt so strong it signed/burnt - not remotely. But it was 100% an unnatural and electrical. Only time ive ever smelt it in the bush - really weird. ANd it left as quick as it came. Maybe next time i smell (if theres a next time), ill try to follow the scent.

Ok as for the precious stone, it was still there - but yes i did not specifically reference it. IT likely blended in the leaf litter, but i just went and double-checked the footage and its definitely there, just a bit buried. And yeh i wanted to place the items a bit higher, but when i saw the tripod i couldnt resist - i will find a better spot next time im there i think.

hahah mate if anything happened/happens to my arm or pants, ill be sure to get it on film. Imagine after decades of research if Yowies get confirmed because they stole my pants hahaha



posted on Oct, 12 2019 @ 05:43 PM
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originally posted by: TheLieWeLive
a reply to: srsen

A few years back I got a small addiction to watching and listening to anything Sasquatch related. The fascination led me to listen to over a thousand accounts via Sasquatch Chronicles, Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio and Youtube. This in no way makes me any more knowledgeable on the subject than the next person, but I did start to notice certain similarities in the accounts.
There are many accounts that start with someone pulling off the road or walking into the woods to urinate. It started showing how territorial they can be and will make themselves known if you start territorial marking their area. Sure you already urinate in the forest, but maybe if you marked their markers you could get their attention, I'm just not sure if it's the attention you really want. The time of day also increases your chance of running into one. I would guesstimate that your best chances are around 2-5 AM, but I would really encourage to not do any of this by yourself.

It is thought that they travel using low areas such as ravines, rivers and creek beds as road ways, if you see them in the mountains it's because they are crossing over. It is also thought that they stay off of game trails only occasionally crisscrossing them.

You could try spraying some perfume around. Introduce your own obnoxious odor to their environment and see how they react. Leave a scarf sprayed with perfume, tied head height in a tree, and see if anything removes it. It could be seen as a territorial marker and they may leave their own, or remove yours, or both.

Whatever you decide to do be careful and good luck.


Yeh the creek bed thing makes sense, i walked through them hoping to see footprints but no luck. But geographically, the area has everything youd want to find YOwie habitat.

As for perfume, honestly, while thats a good idea, I think ill pass on it. Main reason - i dont want to conduct myself in anyway that could be seen as territorial. If theres Yowies about, im not overly keen on giving signs of dominance at all.Besides, i have shelters nearby with my scent all over it.

So this goes for any scent stuff, urination as well. Not too keen on that kind of thing. But thanks for putting thought into this man!



posted on Oct, 12 2019 @ 05:45 PM
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originally posted by: TheLorax
Yowies seem to be attracted to cooked meat.

Why don't you cook some snags and leave them on a high rock near a creek.

Do that each time you go up, to show you are happy to share your meat.

Maybe you'll make a friend.


Ive heard that Yowies can start expecting food and then become upset if its not provided. Also, personally, food isnt clear cut either - any animal could take the food and ill be there telling myself its a yowie. ITs a bit too hit n miss to know. And anyway, i already carry way too much food out there as it is, if i start taking for a Yowie ill need a second backpack hahahah



posted on Oct, 12 2019 @ 08:23 PM
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a reply to: srsen

I agree, do not cause an incident, but if you really want to see one you are going to have to make them step out. From the time you enter their territory they know you are there, so what I gather is they want full control of the situation and will react if they don't have it.

I think they know how unpredictable humans can be, one person may freeze in their tracks (which may seem defiant to them), one person could pull a weapon (also defiant) and another may run. It's that unpredictability that makes them avoid us, even if some are hulking creatures who could kill 10 men like Beowulf's Grendel, they would rather just keep clear of us.

I do not think they are mindless killing machines, but they are opportunistic. I think they are smart enough to be fearful of us and would rather us not be around. Hurting one of us makes more of us come so maybe scary encounters are their way of getting you to leave the area without further incident. With most encounter the people do not immediately return to the scene, if they ever do, so scare tactic are proven to work in their eyes.



posted on Oct, 13 2019 @ 06:55 AM
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originally posted by: TheLieWeLive
a reply to: srsen

I agree, do not cause an incident, but if you really want to see one you are going to have to make them step out. From the time you enter their territory they know you are there, so what I gather is they want full control of the situation and will react if they don't have it.

I think they know how unpredictable humans can be, one person may freeze in their tracks (which may seem defiant to them), one person could pull a weapon (also defiant) and another may run. It's that unpredictability that makes them avoid us, even if some are hulking creatures who could kill 10 men like Beowulf's Grendel, they would rather just keep clear of us.

I do not think they are mindless killing machines, but they are opportunistic. I think they are smart enough to be fearful of us and would rather us not be around. Hurting one of us makes more of us come so maybe scary encounters are their way of getting you to leave the area without further incident. With most encounter the people do not immediately return to the scene, if they ever do, so scare tactic are proven to work in their eyes.



Thats really well thought out man - particularly the last paragraph makes a heck of alot of sense. And over time this tactic would have proven most effective. But yeh, thats a REALLY interesting look into their potential pysche, makes me want to come at this thing from an entirely different perspective. Thank you



posted on Oct, 14 2019 @ 02:33 PM
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You pointed out all the smaller branches and limbs lying in certain areas near (possible) structures.

The following is only a theory.

I've seen that in numerous videos where (supposed) Bi-Pedals (may) inhabit. For the most part, many researchers (arm-chair or otherwise) collectively agree that these creatures have an intelligence and are able to figure things out. If one were to spread out branches on the ground floor, they would crack under the animals/Mans weight making that large "SNAP" sound. Could be something like an intruder alarm to where ever they might be nesting at.

again... just a thought as we really just don't know (yet). There's a guy named Colorado Bigfoot (YouTube) that has some (if true) wild captures of structure's and such. In fact at some times it's overwhelming in the amount of things he finds. Of course he has his own theories too on them.

Regardless of the above.... Your a level-headed guy, take these incidents/events in stride and compare them to future things yet to reveal themselves to you.

Much success to you in your Adventures!
Johnny



posted on Oct, 15 2019 @ 03:30 AM
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originally posted by: JohnnyAnonymous
You pointed out all the smaller branches and limbs lying in certain areas near (possible) structures.

The following is only a theory.

I've seen that in numerous videos where (supposed) Bi-Pedals (may) inhabit. For the most part, many researchers (arm-chair or otherwise) collectively agree that these creatures have an intelligence and are able to figure things out. If one were to spread out branches on the ground floor, they would crack under the animals/Mans weight making that large "SNAP" sound. Could be something like an intruder alarm to where ever they might be nesting at.

again... just a thought as we really just don't know (yet). There's a guy named Colorado Bigfoot (YouTube) that has some (if true) wild captures of structure's and such. In fact at some times it's overwhelming in the amount of things he finds. Of course he has his own theories too on them.

Regardless of the above.... Your a level-headed guy, take these incidents/events in stride and compare them to future things yet to reveal themselves to you.

Much success to you in your Adventures!
Johnny



i like the way your mind works, thats a solid theory. i approached theories around stick build up to nest building of sorts and knew that wasnt a good hypothesis. but as a sound differentiator, very plausible. i will look deeper and harder next time im there and see if i see anything else that jives with previous findings. im weary of theories thougb as they obviously lead to confirmation bias which is a trap im keen to avoid



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