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Video - British doctor fully debunks the need for mandatory vaccination using the available studies

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posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 02:56 PM
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This video is from Jason Liosatos Outside The Box. Jason interviews a British doctor about the global push for compulsory vaccination. One by one the doctor debunks every one of the official reasons that the pharmaceutical lobbyists use to push for forced vaccines, including herd immunity, the risk of measles, the safety of the vaccine, the genotypes of measles which are currently spreading, and much more. He also looks into how the plans were already made in advance for everything that they are doing now i.e. Global Health Security Agenda (GHSA). By using the available science and official documents, he leaves the official industry propaganda lying on the floor shattered to pieces. The video is 1 hour 42 minutes in total and well worth watching for anyone wanting to get informed with the facts.





posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 03:49 PM
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Vaccines save life’s.

Fed up of rubbish like this, anti-vaxers are up there along with climate change deniers, flat earthers and the people who believe the moon landing was a hoax in levels of utter stupidity.

One doctor doesn’t represent the medical community who are of the consensus that vaccines save life’s



posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 04:01 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Vaccines save life’s.


If the pharmaceuticals believe that vaccines save lives and bring a net health benefit, they have to prove that scientifically. So far they are not willing to, we need science, not assumption.


originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Fed up of rubbish like this, anti-vaxers are up there along with climate change deniers, flat earthers and the people who believe the moon landing was a hoax in levels of utter stupidity.

You should try to be open-minded and listen to both sides of the evidence with an open mind, putting presumptions to the side.


originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
One doctor doesn’t represent the medical community who are of the consensus that vaccines save life’s


There are many doctors doing the same as this one. Remember that the medical community pushed opioids on us all, most of them are overworked and controlled from above, they have little choice other than to do as they're told. Listen to this doctor and you'll realize that there's a lot more to this story than CNN and the rest of the mainstream media would ever admit.



posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 04:06 PM
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a reply to: hiddencode



If the pharmaceuticals believe that vaccines save lives and bring a net health benefit, they have to prove that scientifically. So far they are not willing to, we need science, not assumption.



Huh...

I guess that small pox vaccine then was just a myth?

EDIT to add: I ran a search for Dr Graham Downing on the General Medical Council which is the UK register for Doctors and his name isn't on it. In fact it shows no results whatsoever for that name suggesting that he never even has been registered because when you search for a actual real medical doctor it shows their status including if they have relinquished their registration to practice. "Doctor" isn't actually a protected title in the UK and so this guy could literally just be talking out of his arse hole without a GMC registration claiming to have been whatever the hell he wants despite it being utter crap.


edit on 11-10-2019 by OtherSideOfTheCoin because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: hiddencode

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. The World Health Organization has the money and the vaccines it needs to stamp out the disease out once and for all — but it hasn't been able to finish the job. A major obstacle is Pakistan, where heavy opposition to vaccination programs in some regions has let polio regain a foothold.


Smallpox could return...

The success of the smallpox eradication program is evidenced by the fact that many people today don't even remember how awful smallpox was. Caused by the Variola major virus, smallpox killed a third of people infected and over 300 million people in the 20th century alone. Even when people survived the disease, they often suffered blindness and disfigurement from the blisters caused by the disease. For five centuries, smallpox plagued the world until a massive endeavor that involved thousands and thousands of people, starting with the discovery of a smallpox vaccine in 1796 by Edward Jenner, continuing with the WHO agreeing in 1958 with the Soviet Union proposal to attempt global eradication, further continuing with a specific resolution in 1966 to end smallpox in ten years, and ending with the last known naturally occurring case in Merka Town, Somalia.


I think the proof of the value of vaccines is pretty obvious?



posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 04:19 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

There was certainly a small pox vaccine, but countries which didn't have mass vaccination programs also eradicated small pox, and the locations which were being given the small pox vaccines would then go on to have the worst outbreaks.

Anything like this needs to be studied very carefully, with high-quality studies, the industry will try to mislead and tell you their products are great, but solid evidence is required to prove the point. Many people were left disabled by the small pox vaccine, and small pox wasn't particularly contagious, so it was perfectly possible to eradicate simply by the use of quarantine.



posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 04:22 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I ran a search for Dr Graham Downing on the General Medical Council which is the UK register for Doctors and his name isn't on it. "Doctor" isn't actually a protected title in the UK and a search of the GMC shows up no results for that name meaning that he is not a practicing medical doctor.


I remember hearing in one of his presentations that he had a PhD in a medical subject, he is an expert in his field, not like a local doctor in a surgery.



posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 04:23 PM
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a reply to: hiddencode

Ok so what about "doctor" Graham Downing having no records held with the GMC.

You can check for yourself.

GMC



posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 04:24 PM
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What a load of rubbish.

Typical reinterpretation of reality and pseudosciebce by people who don't like vaccinations. I made it for 17 minutes listening to the bias and selectivity, by gave up on the statement "...Public Health England which is not a government body but is kind of an industry linked body blah, blah, blah". In fact Public Health England is part of the English NHS. With basic errors like that...

Also note that the Dr Graham Downing who is in this video is not a "real" doctor as he's not on the UK List of Registered Medical Practitioners. He could be a doctor of silliness and quackery though and his bio from another site gives a varied career and qualifications from Texas Chiropractic College.

Edit - credit OtherSide who ran to the GMC and posted before me. Great minds think alike. I'm a professor by the way; well I am one every other Thursday. A professor of abosultutely bugger-all
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posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 04:29 PM
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Blaine91555,

Unfortunately the World Health Organization have many conflicts of interest with the pharmaceuticals, similar to the CDC, their information is hence not independent.

www.bmj.com...

On the Polio vaccine, Polio is a disease of poor sanitation. Also the oral polio vaccine actually spreads polio, the vaccine strain is now the most common circulating strain.

Here a doctor explains the polio story in great detail, it's quite different to the mainstream narrative:-



On Small Pox, please look back to the my response to OtherSideOfTheCoin.






originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: hiddencode

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. The World Health Organization has the money and the vaccines it needs to stamp out the disease out once and for all — but it hasn't been able to finish the job. A major obstacle is Pakistan, where heavy opposition to vaccination programs in some regions has let polio regain a foothold.



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posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: hiddencode

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I ran a search for Dr Graham Downing on the General Medical Council which is the UK register for Doctors and his name isn't on it. "Doctor" isn't actually a protected title in the UK and a search of the GMC shows up no results for that name meaning that he is not a practicing medical doctor.


I remember hearing in one of his presentations that he had a PhD in a medical subject, he is an expert in his field, not like a local doctor in a surgery.


Ahhh so not a medical doctor but a PhD.

So if he has a PhD then he should have published works in recognised academic journals yet I done a search for those also and couldn't find a single piece of academic work he has published. Actually the only thing I could find in regards to his credentials comes from Alternativeview.co.uk (hardly an academic site) which says the following....



Dr. Graham S. Downing is a consultant in Neuro-musculoskeletal & Functional Medicine. He graduated from King’s College London University where he trained in the clinical sciences and molecular biology and attended the Randall Institute as a research student whilst still under the Directorship of Dr Wilkins, Nobel prize winner for his co-discovery of DNA; and European Institute of Health and Medical Sciences, Surrey University where he received an MSc with a specialist area of research in psychoneuroimmunology in the clinical practice.

Dr. Downing was invited to read for a Ph.D at Oxford’s leading research institute, Sir William Dunn School of Pathology but decided on a clinical career instead. He is one of only two doctors in Europe that have received training at consultant level in diagnosis and treatment of internal medical disorders at the Texas Chiropractic College, USA; and advanced Wilderness medicine.

His specialist fields are neuro-musculoskeletal & functional Medicine (with a focus on fertility, endocrinology, infection and gastro-intestinal problems). He has produced science and clinical reports since February 1993 and medico-legal reports since April 2010 as an expert witness.

He is currently President and Director of Clinical Education for a European organisation that sets standards of clinical proficiency and trains healthcare providers, including medical doctors, chiropractors, osteopaths, physiotherapists, herbalists, homoeopaths, nutritionist, functional medicine doctors and other health disciplines to consultant level.


To me that sounds like him trying to sell himself as a registered medical doctor yet he has no registration with the GMC nor does he have any published worked.

You see OP, when you actually learn to critically evaluate your sources you learn to quickly spot a fake academic which this guy seems to be unless you can prove otherwise because right now there is zero proof of his credentials, there is no GMC registration and there are zero published works. Note the two parts in bold, one makes it sound like he was a medical doctor which he was not (no proof). The second part actually makes it sound like he is actually a Chiropractor (quacks) which doesn't make him any kind of expert in vaccination.

One can only conclude then (unless you present evidence to the contrary) that this guy is a fraud.

I can make a youtube video claiming I am just about anything and even write myself up a nice little bio to back it up but doesn't make any of it true.

Moral of the story donn't believe everything you see on the inter webs.

This entire thread needs hoaxed.
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posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 04:33 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

A message on the GMC says that if you can't find them there it doesn't mean they are not registered. I just looked this up.

"Dr. Graham Downing – Consultant healthcare practitioner with areas of expertise in Neuro-musculoskeletal & Functional Medicine, with special interest in infection, fertility, endocrine & neuro-developmental disorders"



posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 04:36 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: hiddencode



If the pharmaceuticals believe that vaccines save lives and bring a net health benefit, they have to prove that scientifically. So far they are not willing to, we need science, not assumption.



Huh...

I guess that small pox vaccine then was just a myth?

EDIT to add: I ran a search for Dr Graham Downing on the General Medical Council which is the UK register for Doctors and his name isn't on it. In fact it shows no results whatsoever for that name suggesting that he never even has been registered because when you search for a actual real medical doctor it shows their status including if they have relinquished their registration to practice. "Doctor" isn't actually a protected title in the UK and so this guy could literally just be talking out of his arse hole without a GMC registration claiming to have been whatever the hell he wants despite it being utter crap.



we have had a few of those Here in the USA, everytime, they go to jail.

You may claim a PHD anytime you want, you may even get called "doctor" but, mis represent yourself as a "medical Doctor" and you aren't, you are going away for awhile..



posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 04:40 PM
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originally posted by: hiddencode
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

A message on the GMC says that if you can't find them there it doesn't mean they are not registered. I just looked this up.

"Dr. Graham Downing – Consultant healthcare practitioner with areas of expertise in Neuro-musculoskeletal & Functional Medicine, with special interest in infection, fertility, endocrine & neuro-developmental disorders"



Yeah dude, it says you might have the details wrong so unless he isn't actually called Graham Downing then that means nothing. If his name is actually Graham Downing then he is not and never has been registered with the GMC

He is a Chiropractor, Chiropractors are not medical doctors in fact they're a bit of a scam when you really look into it nor are they experts on vaccination.

The burden of proof is now on you, why should anyone believe a word this man has to say when he has zero published works, is not a GMC registered doctors and his background seems to be as a chiropractor which has sweet F.A to do with the science of vaccination (or science of any kind come to think of it)
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posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 04:41 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin


Moral of the story donn't believe everything you see on the inter webs


But its on truthtube not the lying box, the sooner people realise that youtube is no different than the television the better, in fact youtube is even more powerful than television as it will personalise the videos you see as oppossed to the TV which has set programs and channels, we are coming for your minds.....oh and your clicks as well....oh and your money you throw at the screen for affirmation.....oh and will you click the subscribe button so we get ad revenue....yeah truthtube

As long as vaccines are optional there is never an issue, if you dont wish to be vaccinated cool, if you do feel free.



posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 04:43 PM
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Forgive me … I don't mean to expose myself as a scientist and also a luddite, BUT nothing 'saves' "life's" (sic) (lives).

The best that can be done it to postpone 'death's' … even with the most modern technology we will ever achieve.

Vaccines suck up money, and don't do anything else other than to postpone death.

Is postponing death worth all the money we are forced to pay into the system?

Suit yourselves. Maybe, maybe not. As for me : I remain undecided until further notice.


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posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 04:44 PM
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paraphi

The doctor fully debunks the official narratives. I'd recommend you watch all the way through and put presumptions to the side.

I'd also recommend looking into Public Health England, it is not part of the NHS as you believe. Have a read in the link below:-

psnc.org.uk...

"Public Health England (PHE) is an executive agency of the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC)"

"It works transparently, proactively providing government, local government, the NHS, MPs, industry, public health professionals and the public with evidence-based professional, scientific and delivery expertise and advice."

If Dr Downing was lying about his qualifications he would have already been taken down for it, he's been giving presentations for years and is well known on the circuit, nobody has taken him down. Anyway, best to focus on the studies he discusses, he shows all his sources, you can look them all up if you have any doubts.



posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 04:46 PM
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Forgive me … I don't mean to expose myself as a scientist and also a luddite, BUT nothing 'saves' "life's" (sic) (lives).



Pretty sure nobody thinks anyone is actually claiming that vaccines are bestowing immortality to anyone.

I think everyone on this thread (even the OP) knows what I mean by the assertion that vaccines save lives.



posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 04:46 PM
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These days conspiracy-type videos can not make money on YouTube, they've all been demonetized. The people still producing there are doing it for other reasons, such as trying to get the truth out.



posted on Oct, 11 2019 @ 04:48 PM
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Many people die from vaccines and are left disabled, we would need solid studies to answer the questions, each vaccine would need to be studied, the ingredients in them, the full schedule, the timing etc. The current reality is that we have no way of knowing if they bring more harm or benefit overall.



originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Fowlerstoad




Forgive me … I don't mean to expose myself as a scientist and also a luddite, BUT nothing 'saves' "life's" (sic) (lives).



Pretty sure nobody thinks anyone is actually claiming that vaccines are bestowing immortality to anyone.

I think everyone on this thread (even the OP) knows what I mean by the assertion that vaccines save lives.




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