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posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 10:15 AM
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a reply to: Guyfriday




How is it that Trump is getting attacked for not supporting the Kurds with Turkey and the Kurds are at odds?

Because it isn't about not supporting the Kurds , it's about stepping aside so a ruthless Turkish leader can commit genocide after the people he is killing fought and died combating ISIS for us , a role they took which probably saved hundreds of your troops being killed.

Who will be stupid enough to trust the US next time ?

Trump is destroying America and its reputation not making it great.




posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 10:21 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

Anything Trump is against Democrats immediately are for. It's really crazy. Trump is doing something that should be non-partisan and everyone should cheer for. Somehow he is demonized for it.



posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 10:22 AM
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originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Guyfriday




How is it that Trump is getting attacked for not supporting the Kurds with Turkey and the Kurds are at odds?

Because it isn't about not supporting the Kurds , it's about stepping aside so a ruthless Turkish leader can commit genocide after the people he is killing fought and died combating ISIS for us , a role they took which probably saved hundreds of your troops being killed.

Who will be stupid enough to trust the US next time ?

Trump is destroying America and its reputation not making it great.




Who put us in this situation? What is the goal there? The endgame? What will it require to achieve?



posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 10:22 AM
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originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: dfnj2015


Someone said the Democrats would do it. At the time I thought no they would not. But they did. Or at least one did.


Well one person did. So I guess that means all Democrats.

Welcome to right wing logic.

How's it feel?



Now the OP can see how fast the left eat their own



posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: RadioRobert




You mean when the Republicans created the "Arab Spring " and destabilized half of the middle east and then left their new "allies" to be trampled by despotic governments,

People of the Arab world saw a dictator toppled in Iraq and wanted it for themselves so yes Republicans created the "Arab Spring" , it's called a knock on effect.



posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 10:25 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Guyfriday

Article 5 only applies if a member country is being attacked. In this case, Turkey is the aggressor so they cannot invoke Article 5.


I get that, but in Article 1
FromNATO.int


Article 1
The Parties undertake, as set forth in the Charter of the United Nations, to settle any international dispute in which they may be involved by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered, and to refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force in any manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations.


Isn't Turkey in violation of this?

Then there is Article 4:

Article 4
The Parties will consult together whenever, in the opinion of any of them, the territorial integrity, political independence or security of any of the Parties is threatened.

So then where is the rest of NATO? If Turkey isn't being threatened by the Kurds, then attacking them is either an act of war, a war crime, or a crime against humanity. Again shouldn't the rest of NATO be involved with dealing with Turkey's action here?



posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: gortex




How many US boots on the ground were there in Syria ?

I have no idea.
IMO one was too many.



To do what , sit in barracks ? If they're all sat at home perhaps troop lay offs are in order , just think of the money that would save.

To do whatever the cic directs them to.
Early outs if that is what is directed.
It is long past the time for us to be the worlds polilce force.



posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 10:35 AM
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a reply to: shooterbrody




It is long past the time for us to be the worlds polilce force.

Then China and Russia will to fill the power vacuum , already have to some extent.
Shame really , I quite liked America being the dominant world power.

Best start brushing up on our Mandarin and Russian language skills.

edit on 10-10-2019 by gortex because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 10:45 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

S and f Op.. I believe anyone that has made a career with a D or an R in front of their name is most likely crooked as hell.

Whether you agree or not that is why we have Trump. He is not A D or an R. Thats why they love him and thats why they hate him.



posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 10:51 AM
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a reply to: gortex



I quite liked America being the dominant world power.

I bet you do.




Best start brushing up on our Mandarin and Russian language skills.

no thanks
We are capable of defending ourselves.
Others probably not so much.



posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 10:57 AM
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originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: shooterbrody




It is long past the time for us to be the worlds polilce force.

Then China and Russia will to fill the power vacuum , already have to some extent.
Shame really , I quite liked America being the dominant world power.

Best start brushing up on our Mandarin and Russian language skills.


We will still be the dominant world power we just wont be the world police.

China and Russia wont do shi! to us.



posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 11:00 AM
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So I was wrong. If you are against the end-less wars in the Middle East then you can't flip-flop just for cheap political gain. Someone said the Democrats would do it. At the time I thought no they would not. But they did. Or at least one did. I'm not sure Julian Castro speaks for every Democrat in the party. It confirms my generalization all politicians suck.
a reply to: dfnj2015

Trumpet Orange merely got out of Erdogans way to have him repeat his warcrimes of Afrin in Syria.
More ethnic cleansing, more dead civilians... winning!

Fcking cowards and their deals...



posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 11:04 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion



So I was wrong. If you are against the end-less wars in the Middle East then you can't flip-flop just for cheap political gain. Someone said the Democrats would do it. At the time I thought no they would not. But they did. Or at least one did. I'm not sure Julian Castro speaks for every Democrat in the party. It confirms my generalization all politicians suck.
a reply to: dfnj2015

Trumpet Orange merely got out of Erdogans way to have him repeat his warcrimes of Afrin in Syria.
More ethnic cleansing, more dead civilians... winning!

Fcking cowards and their deals...


You have been on this site for 7 years I wonder if you can find one post from before all of this where you gave any shi! at all abut the KURDS.

I bet you cant.



posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: shooterbrody




We are capable of defending ourselves.
Others probably not so much.

With just those few words you've summed it up.
What a selfish country you've become under Trump.

So sad , Bigly !



posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 11:15 AM
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a reply to: hyperlexic

Open a thread and leave me alone with that crap.

Are you ready to comment on the topic now or do you need a few moments to make it happen?



posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: shooterbrody




We are capable of defending ourselves.
Others probably not so much.

With just those few words you've summed it up.
What a selfish country you've become under Trump.

So sad , Bigly !

hahaha
looking out for our own interests is now "selfish"
mkay
"you guys ruined the world"
pulls troops
"you guys are selfish"

lol
what a joke



posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 11:20 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: hyperlexic

Open a thread and leave me alone with that crap.

Are you ready to comment on the topic now or do you need a few moments to make it happen?


So no.. Just admit you never gave a shi! about the kurds until now. its easy and we all already know..



posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: gortex
With just those few words you've summed it up.
What a selfish country you've become under Trump.

So sad , Bigly !

A few years back, same situation under a different president and you would be hailing it because the US shouldn't be the world's police.

Hey OP while you're waking up to Democratic nonsense have you figured out what their socialist utopia would look like?
edit on 10-10-2019 by 1337Kph because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: RadioRobert




You mean when the Republicans created the "Arab Spring " and destabilized half of the middle east and then left their new "allies" to be trampled by despotic governments,

People of the Arab world saw a dictator toppled in Iraq and wanted it for themselves so yes Republicans created the "Arab Spring" , it's called a knock on effect.



You're a smart guy, so I'm surprised you'd say something so dumb.



posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 11:29 AM
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looking out for our own interests is now "selfish"
a reply to: shooterbrody

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But look at the upside of your new friendship with the Turkey! Your Fore-feathers must be proud.





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