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New study shows e-cig smoke causes cancer and DNA damage in mice

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posted on Oct, 8 2019 @ 08:18 PM
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Look up MASTER SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. Each State receives hundreds of millions per month for each current smoker, sick,dead and since vaping that money is disappearing. That is the ONLY reason they are going after vaping. Vaping is 95% safer then cigarettes. They sell vapes in Hospitals in the UK and Canada has embraced it. People who vape know.




posted on Oct, 8 2019 @ 08:25 PM
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Sure it does....
Whose research ?
Everything gives lab rats cancer

Remember
Regulation=Revenue=Taxes=Government stealing money from the people they represent. (Yet don't. They just fill their pockets with stolen money)

edit on 10/8/19 by Gothmog because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 8 2019 @ 08:32 PM
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originally posted by: flice
a reply to: FredT

Not to say that nicotine isnt damaging since it causes stiffening of the arteries which will lead to cardio vascular issues down the road.

But man... that vape juice sounds worse than plain cigs.

Its not...
Done been over this with members of the WHO and Emory University a few years ago.
It is very viable in getting folks off analog cigarettes.
And a hell of a lot safer.



posted on Oct, 8 2019 @ 09:00 PM
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So those mice had better stop vaping before it is too late.



posted on Oct, 9 2019 @ 04:37 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: flice
a reply to: FredT

Not to say that nicotine isnt damaging since it causes stiffening of the arteries which will lead to cardio vascular issues down the road.

But man... that vape juice sounds worse than plain cigs.

Its not...
Done been over this with members of the WHO and Emory University a few years ago.
It is very viable in getting folks off analog cigarettes.
And a hell of a lot safer.

Viable? Yes. But while it is 'viable', vaping makes quitting smoking altogether less likely.



posted on Oct, 9 2019 @ 05:15 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: flice
a reply to: FredT

Not to say that nicotine isnt damaging since it causes stiffening of the arteries which will lead to cardio vascular issues down the road.

But man... that vape juice sounds worse than plain cigs.

Its not...
Done been over this with members of the WHO and Emory University a few years ago.
It is very viable in getting folks off analog cigarettes.
And a hell of a lot safer.

Viable? Yes. But while it is 'viable', vaping makes quitting smoking altogether less likely.

Why ?
I myself have convinced may folk to kick analog cigarettes for the digital variety.
So , what makes you say that ?



posted on Oct, 9 2019 @ 05:17 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: flice
a reply to: FredT

Not to say that nicotine isnt damaging since it causes stiffening of the arteries which will lead to cardio vascular issues down the road.

But man... that vape juice sounds worse than plain cigs.

Its not...
Done been over this with members of the WHO and Emory University a few years ago.
It is very viable in getting folks off analog cigarettes.
And a hell of a lot safer.

Viable? Yes. But while it is 'viable', vaping makes quitting smoking altogether less likely.

Why ?
I myself have convinced may folk to kick analog cigarettes for the digital variety.
So , what makes you say that ?

Key phrase 'for the digital variety'. They don't quit smoking, they switch to vaping and keep doing it.



posted on Oct, 9 2019 @ 06:13 AM
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a reply to: FredT

No it hasnt. Its so safe that the British government is encouraging it among smokers.

2 things need to be clear.....

- if you never smoked vaping isnt for you. Its a method of harm reduction
- black market thc cartridgrd3 are what caused health issues

Im open to receiving facts if any can be presented.



posted on Oct, 9 2019 @ 07:07 AM
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a reply to: trollz




"NEW STUDY SHOWS E-CIG SMOKE CAUSES CANCER AND DNA DAMAGE IN MICE"

The intent of the study was rather to show that e-cigarette vapor can have negative consequences that we don't yet understand. The fact that a significant portion of the mice developed cancer and DNA damage from exposure to the e-cigarette vapor is alarming.

Yes, I know, vaping is probably better for you than smoking cigarettes... A lot of people, myself included, have gotten off cigarettes by vaping. But the fact remains, we don't yet know what vaping is doing to the human body, and we should acknowledge that instead of just assuming it's harmless.


No matter how many times I tell those mice that vaping is bad for them, I just can't keep them away from that pipe.

Mice today...you can't tell them anything...


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posted on Oct, 9 2019 @ 09:13 AM
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originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: FredT

Here in Michigan, all flavored removed last week. Illegal to sell...and there are a lot of young Middleastern immigrants opening hooka stores, lounges, bars...here in Dearborn.

E Cigs to be banned shortly



If they ban vaping, but not cigarettes, something is very, very wrong with this country.

Oh yeah, its the politicians beholden to the corporate interests above (far above) that of their citizenry.



posted on Oct, 9 2019 @ 01:34 PM
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jesus christ where to even start.

embrace ignorance, perhaps?

clue 1: "scientific" study names ecig aerosol as "smoke".

no combustion, therefore no smoke. This should be a big hint that it is incredibly biased and flawed.

this is the same nonsense that has been spewed for ten years, trying to ride the current wave of trendy news about vaping.

nicotine is not a carcinogen.

find evidence to the contrary, i'll wait.



posted on Oct, 9 2019 @ 04:03 PM
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a reply to: flitzanu

Never said it was a carcinogen but there is ample evidence that it supports and accelerates tumor growth
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

and after digging about a bit there are not challenges to that basic assumption. Remember its not the chemical but rather what the chemical becomes when vaped or whatever delivery method you are using



E-cigarette smoke delivers stimulant nicotine as aerosol without tobacco or the burning process. It contains neither carcinogenic incomplete combustion byproducts nor tobacco nitrosamines, the nicotine nitrosation products. E-cigarettes are promoted as safe and have gained significant popularity. In this study, instead of detecting nitrosamines, we directly measured DNA damage induced by nitrosamines in different organs of E-cigarette smoke exposed mice. We found mutagenic O6-methyldeoxyguanosines and γ-hydroxy-1,N2-propano-deoxyguanosines in the lung, bladder, and heart. DNA-repair activity and repair proteins XPC and OGG1/2 are significantly reduced in the lung. We found that nicotine and its metabolite, nicotine-derived nitrosamine ketone, can induce the same effects and enhance mutational susceptibility and tumorigenic transformation of cultured human bronchial epithelial and urothelial cells. These results indicate that nicotine nitrosation occurs in vivo in mice and that E-cigarette smoke is carcinogenic to the murine lung and bladder and harmful to the murine heart. It is therefore possible that E-cigarette smoke may contribute to lung and bladder cancer, as well as heart disease, in humans. www.pnas.org...



posted on Oct, 9 2019 @ 04:05 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Not sure what facts those might be?

Is it safer than smoking? Perhaps yes, but much like the rush to get Aspartame out, the overall research was at best incomplete? Based on the research coming out (see post above) it may reduce typical cancers associated with smoking, but then enhances others.



posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 01:26 PM
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a reply to: FredT

i got really bored again when this other scientific study refers to ecig aerosol as "smoke."

i tried to glance through a few pages and find out the methodology of how they are creating thge "smoke" they are referring to, because i find it amazing that mice have the dexterity to push tiny ecig buttons.

but really, most every single "study" like this involves some large combustion machine that is heating metal coils well beyond safe temperatures (that vapers would ever use or see) and blowing toxic fumes into mouse faces.

none of them are ever accurately replicating "vaping" in the manner that a person would actually vape.



posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 02:06 PM
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a reply to: FredT








posted on Oct, 10 2019 @ 02:07 PM
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Govts everywhere earn huge amounts on tobacco taxes. Big tobacco companies are threatened by vaping.
Follow the money?
"We subjected mice to vape clouds 24 hrs a day. They got poorly"
FFS.




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