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Originally posted by omega1
how bout free speech and the right to bear arms
I will not give up either, no compromise, it's not my style
Originally posted by WyrdeOne
look at our current situation and ask yourself; what good has talking done?
Originally posted by 00PS
Any insults in this thread will instantly be forwarded to the appropriate mod for action
[edit per mod request] I #ed that up already.
Please refrain from using immature language and keep the discussion on topic
which is more valuable in our current crisis: The Bill of Rights Amendment I or Amendment II
It is therefore more valuable to the people to have the right to bear arms.
While there are problems nationally, the goverment is focused on issues and problems in the international arena that do not directly affect Americans.
it is absurd we give them foreign aid that exceeds the government's federal support to many states
Besides the private contractors based out of American firms, what other American citizens are benefiting from the Iraq war besides politicians.
The Iraq war has only given the American people two things. The first is the death of their daughters and sons, fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles, teachers and students, businessmen and women. The second is a financial bill that is growing day by day and will be paid back by the children of today and tomorrow.
The American people are not benefitting from [globalization].
in today's day and age with the development of the world as a community Americans have been shoved into the fold and lesser and lesser is our goverment listening
With a goverment that listens to the people they would aptly and rightly promote the growth of the republic with a purpose and sense of unity.
The right to assemble has been hampered by such laws against homeless people as no sitting on the sidewalks. Now the policemen can tell the protesters to keep moving.
The police should support our rights and help us when we want to protest by routing traffic to effectively show the people of a city the people have the right to protest,
instead they sit and watch and have people honk and hate the protesters for creating traffic congestion.
This comes from my personal experience which can be taken as you please.
Free speech in America is getting more and more limited.
With surveillance and actions against those who speak freely. With secret service and FBI officials asking colleges and universites for enrollment rosters and background information on specific individuals.
We need guns to revolt
Originally posted by 00PSThat is, in a new American revolution, which would be more valuable. The guns or the tounge?
he's asking which is more important to resolve our current dillema.
Originally posted by Nygdan
Neither will be effective. Revolutionaries will be corraled, shot, gased and exterminated. No anti-federalist militia, not even in the wildest dreams of the montanans and such, can possibly defeat in the field the US Army. I doubt most militia groups could even defeat, say, husseins republican guard, and the army made disturbingly short work of them, and by conventional means.
What good are shot-gun militias against blister and nerve agents?
The 'current dilema' is that there is a minority of the people that are unhappy with the government. The best way for this to be addressed is thru the already established avenues. Exercise the right to free speech and vote. It hardly requires a military revolution to shift policy to the left, or right.
Originally posted by djohnsto77
The right to bear arms is necessary to insure freedoms such as free speech since it gives power to the people to resist an overbearing government. This was envisioned by the founding fathers and is a main reason the 2nd Amendment exists.
Originally posted by centurion1211
I think the 2nd amendment helps guarantee the 1st.
But then you need the 1st amendment to be able to discuss the 2nd.
Best we just keep them all.
Originally posted by metalmessiah
the demeanor of said administration would also be the deciding factor of which method would be most effective, in my opinion.
However, when my countrymen are stiffled and oppressed and repressed for their revolution, how can I sit back and not defend our right to revolt to the death, either the enemy or my own?
if there is a revolution in the USA against the powers that be[...]what do you think would be more valuable for success of the revolution - the right to bear arms or the right to free speech?