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Originally posted by peterpaul
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But before I left I had to sign little piece of paper. It included the following: I am not to reveil any kind of information that is considered a business secret belonging to the company. The IBM has the right to prosecute you by law for the lenght of 20 years in case you break your silence. In other words: I shut up or "they" shut me up.
Anyone out there who still thinks I'm just talking BS.....
Cheerio
Peter Paul
Originally posted by Long Lance
cool, so IBM knows ghe future, too? (/jk)
you know, you sound as if you were not quite content with the system and talking from experience, so i'm inclined to believe you wrt your life, IBM and all , but i am UNWILLING to the highest degree to accept that a brutish, egocentric, immodest organisaition - even if it was satanic 'NWO' itself - knows the future for crying out loud.
this concept is totally repulsive to me. perhaps they think they know, but that's it. if they knew the future, they'd avoid stupid stuff like JFK and all, you know.
so, i'd really like to know why you believe in your prophcy's infallability. i expect from a present-day individual to question the nature of your god and, lo and behold, the nature of your visions!
PS: i read notredame's stuff in two languages, there were contradictions in a few spots, and both versions were incomplete. what i read doesn't square with your nukes though, although it DOES square with your tanks... just imho, of course, without going into detail or claiming to be the kahuna of all prophecies...
final surge of curiousity, these tanks, you said they 'raced', how fast would that be? uncanny fast as in 100mph or just full speed, ie. more like 50mph? known models or presently unknown ones? or do they all look the same to you?
Originally posted by grimreaper797
priest you should have put the link to the physicist in your profile, i want to look at the full manuscript and now i gotta go searching for it
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
Bottom line Roth, the 2038 problem is easily corrected no matter how you try to spin it and will not be a problem in 2038. Also, this is irrelevant to Titor.
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
Originally posted by Peter Paul
Now just read how Roth just warded off someone's false arguments by explaining to him what it really means to rewrite code. Now who do think is right about that piece of high-tec information? Who do think has the better end of that discussion. Someone who thinks he knows something about computers or someone who can really tell you in detail about the many hidden things that go on inside of those chips?
lol
Roth babbled on and on with his limited understanding. He didn't "ward" off anything. I'm the one who posted that Wiki article concerning the 2038 bug. Roth hasn't posted a link yet to support his views concerning that. Did you even read that link?
John Titor:
“We need they system to "debug" various legacy computer programs in 2036.”
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
Originally posted by Roth Joint
Look at all those increasing WACO-type deadly taser events in the media. They have already grown past the monthly stage since 2004!
We've gone through all this before. Titor mentioned Waco.
Waco > any taser event.
Why would Titor use Waco as the event to which the first Civil War battles are to be compared to if they're just taser incidents? Titor must not have been a very smart man if that was the case.
John Titor:
However, there are a great many "non lethal" weapon systems in development that turn out to be quite lethal. Sometimes I watch your television programs that show SWAT teams using new non-lethal weapons. They usually start out with, "In the future, the army and police will fight its enemies with new weapons systems…" When they use the word "enemy", they're talking about YOU!
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
Originally posted by slaughterdove
i really want to know the logic behind the comparison. I don't understand the correlation but i really want to hear why it was made!
Don't hold your breath for a straight answer...
I've been waiting for months now.
Titor specifically said there would be a Waco type event each month in 2004. Meaning something equivilant to Waco. The best they can come up with is taser incidents which 1) don't even come close to be compared with Waco and 2) have been occuring since tasers have been invented.
Unfortunately Roth specifically is so intent on having this Civil War happen that he ignores all that and will copy and paste that very lame answer he always posts every time this is brought up. Hopefully this time he'll come up with something that's logical and makes sense and shows he has an understanding of what a Waco type event is, but again....don't hold your breath.
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
Originally posted by Roth Joint
I am sure you will be able to find lots of these WACO-type incidents in the media that started out on a monthly base but are now steadily growing worse...
Now that we've established that taser events are not equal to Waco and that line of thinking is complete bunk. That is in no way shape or form what Titor was talking about when he said there would be a Waco type event each month. Now that we've established all that could you please cite examples of the 24 Waco tyoe events that have occured in the past two years?
www.mercurynews.com...
Between September 2004 and May 2005, seven people died in Northern California after being shocked by a Taser, according to media reports. San Jose's first taser-involved fatality was Brian Patrick O'Neill, 33, who died in police custody on Aug. 1 after he had been doused with pepper spray, struck with a baton and jolted with a Taser.
Last month, the American Civil Liberties Union of Northern California criticized Taser use by local police and sheriff's officers as seriously unregulated. The organization said Tasers were involved in 77 deaths around the country during the past year, 15 of them in northern and central California.
www.chillicothegazette.com.../20050830/NEWS01/508300304/1002
How many deaths?
Amnesty International USA announced in April that Taser-related deaths in the United States and Canada have hit triple digits growing from 74 in November 2004 to 103. The new number covers June 2001 to March 2005. In the first three months of 2005, there were a reported twice as many Taser-related deaths (13) as there were during the same period in 2004 (six), and as many as there were all year in 2002 (13).
www.zwire.com...
Amnesty International has said at least 129 people died between 2001 and July 2005 after being shocked with Tasers. At least 18 autopsies have labeled the Taser as a factor in the deaths. "The reality of the fact is people are dying,'' Steele said after the meeting.
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
Originally posted by Roth Joint
And to give you a little hint:
"All those arrested are presumed innocent until found guilty in a court of law".....
What are you talking about?
John Titor:
"You must realize that why people are fighting is more important that what they are fighting with. The conflict was not about taking and holding ground it was about order and rights.”
“They were betting that people wanted security instead of freedom and they were wrong."
Originally posted by peterpaul
Oh by the way: the central point of all discussion is to learn what it's all about. In my post is something Roth asked me and I believe he got the message.
Originally posted by syrinx high priest
The science has been debunked by a professor of physics at Duke University. Should anyone care to challenge his claims, kindly enlighten us with your credentials to do so.
Originally posted by XPhiles
Originally posted by syrinx high priest
The science has been debunked by a professor of physics at Duke University. Should anyone care to challenge his claims, kindly enlighten us with your credentials to do so.
HAHA Your Funny syrinx high priest...
I will challenge his claims... simply because he has no time machine.
Dr. Robert Brown only has a hypothesis about Titor and he has not scientificly done a experiment to prove other wise. This supposedly is the "Scientific Method" used by all scientists is it not?
I challenge Dr. Robert Brown to build a experiment to prove Titor is wrong.
If he can not put up, he needs to shut up lol......
The Titor science can not be debunked by Dr. Robert Brown, simply because he does not know the future of science. That is unless he himself has a time machine lol........
No credentials needed, just common sense.........
Originally posted by Roth Joint
Unfortunately for you ThatsJustWeird, you are the one with the limited understanding.
The Year 2038 problem is entirely about legacy code programs which you fail to seem to understand. So let me explain it to you in easy to understand language. The “quick fix” you are probably referring to, simply won’t work:
A modern 32-bit computer stores a "signed integer" data type representation of Unix time, such as “time_t” in 32 bits. By the year 2038, the time_t representation for the current time will be over 2 140 000 000 (January 19, 2038 at 3:14:08 AM GMT). And that's the problem.
When a “signed integer” reaches its maximum value it wraps around to its lowest possible negative value. This means a 32-bit signed integer, such as a time_t, set to its maximum value of 2 147 483 647 and then incremented by 1, will become -2 147 483 648. A time_t value of -2 147 483 648 would represent December 13, 1901 at 8:45:52 PM GMT.
The “quick fix” that has been suggested for existing 32-bit software is to re-define time_t as an “unsigned integer” instead of a “signed integer.” But blindly changing time_t to an unsigned integer will make the code unusable in particular parts of a program and introduce a whole new set of problems such as time differences not being computed properly.
And as I have stated before (which ThatsJustWeird fails to understand) the biggest problem will be the “legacy code” used for decades to enhance and maintain the source code of older and important 32-bit programs.
Any new PC architecture will have to be able to run existing 32-bit programs in some kind of "backward compatibility" mode. Even if every PC in the year 2038 has a 64-bit CPU, there will be a lot of older 32-bit programs running on them.
This problem is somewhat easier to fix than the Y2K problem on mainframes, fortunately. Well-written programs can simply be recompiled with a new version of the library that uses, for example, 8-byte values for the storage format. This is possible because the library encapsulates the whole time activity with its own time types and functions (unlike most mainframe programs, which did not standardize their date formats or calculations). So the Year 2038 problem should not be nearly as hard to fix as the Y2K problem was.
As previously stated before, the manner in which US civilians die through the hand of their own officers of the law using ‘non-lethal’ taser weapons upon them is comparable to the manner in which law enforcement used ‘non-lethal’ CS ‘tear gas’ weapons to immolate children and their parents in WACO.
Furthermore, Titor stated these WACO-type events would start somewhere in 2004/2005 and they would be covered by the media. He also said they would start on a monthly base and steadily getting worse.
This is exactly what we are observing when we read up on the many deadly taser events and increasing concern over the lethality of taser weapons that began to be reported in the independent media late 2004. Now in 2005, they are indeed steadily getting worse:
Taser deaths have become a national issue. US civilians of all ages and genders have been electrocuted before prosecution. It will only be a matter of time when more US civilians gather together in opposition to these methods of action.
Didn't John Titor mention not only Waco, but Ruby Ridge, and the Elian Gonzalez situations?
Originally posted by launchpad
The riots that started in Paris spread to those places if i am not mistaken- but a lot of the news was very close held by the European countries.
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
Wow, why are you saying I fail to understand? I posted an article which has expert opinion in it. Why should I listen to you over them?
Please post a link or something showing why I should believe you over experts.
There are ways btw to get around the problem on 32 bit systems
www.2038bug.com...
Also, different computers suffer from different year problems. IBMs for example suffer has a Year 2116 problem (not '38). With Windows NT the year is 2184 when it will have this problem. Use a Mac? You won't have a problem until the year 29940.
computer.howstuffworks.com...
This problem is somewhat easier to fix than the Y2K problem on mainframes, fortunately. Well-written programs can simply be recompiled with a new version of the library that uses, for example, 8-byte values for the storage format. This is possible because the library encapsulates the whole time activity with its own time types and functions (unlike most mainframe programs, which did not standardize their date formats or calculations). So the Year 2038 problem should not be nearly as hard to fix as the Y2K problem was.
Don't say I fail to understand this or that I'm saying this stuff. Experts are.
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
Again, with the taser issue.
Titor specifically said there would be events equivilant to WACO!
What part of this is so far above your understanding?
Waco involved tanks, fires, shootings coming from both sides, death, etc.
Dragon says he found out there were 130 deaths from tasers. Guess what? That is spread out over YEARS. Waco happened in Days. Event like Waco in which two sides engage in armed conflict is what Titor said how the war would start! These are his words! Why are you so desperately trying to change that?
Tasers!?
You can't possibly be serious in comparing a police officer tasering a person conducting a criminal act to a battle in which there were deaths on both sides and actual armed conflict.
John Titor:
Q: Does the civil war start in such a way that those willing will have time to remove themselves to safer locations?
JT: “Yes. You will be forced to ask yourself how many civil rights you will give up to feel safe.”
“By 2008, I would say the civil conflict is pretty much at everyone's doorstep.”
“Outright open fighting was common by then and I joined a shotgun infantry unit in 2011.
“On my world line in 2011, the United States is in the middle of a civil war that has dramatic effects on most of the other Western governments.”
“The conflict will consume everyone in the US by 2012 and end in 2015 with a very short WWIII.”
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
lmao
1. The use of tasers and discussion of their use and "lethality" has been around since the '90s. Just because you weren't paying attention then doesn't mean it wasn't being discussed. Here's a perfect example of you taking something then trying to twist it to fit your and Titor's agenda.
www.fwweekly.com...
In 2000, TASER International of Arizona introduced the M26, which the company touted as being nearly four times more powerful than its predecessors.
Three years after the M26 came the X26, offering “even greater stopping power.”
In reviewing the information on 74 deaths reported since 2001 — including autopsy reports on 21 — Amnesty points out that nearly all the deaths occurred in males between 18 and 59 years old, of varying ethnic origin. Most of them involved the M26 Taser, which is used much more frequently than the newer X26.
www.corpwatch.org...
But those early Tasers were a far cry — a long, agonized scream, victims might say — from the powerful weapons being used by police today. In 2000, TASER International of Arizona introduced the M26, which the company touted as being nearly four times more powerful than its predecessors. Looking like something out of a sci-fi movie, the gun shoots two fish-hook-barbed electrical wires that can travel up to 21 feet and deliver a 50,000-volt shock in a cycle that lasts five seconds. It can also be fired by placing the weapon in direct contact with clothing or skin. The shock renders the recipient instantly immobile, and the five-second cycle may be increased if the officer continues to hold the trigger down. The M26, with bright yellow striping across a black body, comes equipped with “built-in laser sights and an onboard data chip that records the time and date of each firing to back up an officer’s use of force reports.”
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
2. Yep, he said the war would be covered by the media. Why is the media not covering it? Not once did he mention the independent media. He said the media would cover the war like they did they Waco, Elian, etc. events. Meaning basically non stop wall to wall coverage by the MAINSTREAM news. That's not occuring at all. The biggest story last week was the lauching of XBox 360. Now don't you think that if there was a CIVIL WAR going on in the most powerful country in the world they would take about that instead of a video game system?
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
3. The use of tear gas was not the only thing that happened at Waco. I keep trying to get you to do research on what happened at Waco, but you continue to refuse to do so. As a result you probably didn't know that tear gas wasn't the only thing that happened at Waco.
www.wsws.org...
FBI admits use of incendiary grenades at Waco
27 August 1999
Officials of the FBI and Justice Department admitted Wednesday that tear gas grenades with potentially incendiary effect were used in the final assault on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas six years ago. The fire that erupted in the compound killed 80 members of the religious sect.
Originally posted by syrinx high priest
lame argument at best. did you actually read the whole post by Dr. brown ?
Brown concludes the BH time travel idea is impossible on a few levels. 1) the size the devise would have to be. 2) the cooling issue. 3) what happens when a BH is near earths gravitational pull. Can you challenge him on any of these points ? I'd love to see you try. He never says time travel is impossible, just titors story.
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
More than likely this will be read in December of 2005. The last month in 2005.
To this date we were supposed to have had 23 events equivilant or worse that Waco, with the mass media coverage that Waco recieved.
At least 23 battles in the Civil War should have taken place by now.
4 ATF agents and 80 branch members died total.
Simple math here: let's say each of the events were just equivilant to Waco and not worse. That would put the total deaths for the 23 battles that were supposed to have taken place at 1840 Civilians and 92 military or law enforcement personnel. Now, taken into account that each battle was to grow worse that would put the total deaths into the several thousand range. Which would be on pace with what Titor said (millions of Americans would die in the 10 year war).
How many battles have taken place: 0
How many deaths have happened as a result of the battles: 0