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Originally posted by sugeshotcha
LoL 2005 is nearly up and still no civil war. So much for Titor's phony predictions.
Originally posted by loam
I have stated often that I remain skeptical of the whole JT thing...
However, I do wish to point something out. From a 'historical' perspective, the assessment as to when a war begins does not necessarily require an "official declaration" of war- nor does it necessarily have to coincide with one. Food for thought....
Originally posted by Master Wu
This thread cannot officially end until 2015 when the nukes start blasting it to kingdom come. Possibly even 2008.
Very few here seem to realize that events leading up to war are usually shadows and subterfuge until seen in retrospect, and the few who try telling the others that are usually left standing there unheard. Let me state this clearly once and for all:
You May Be In A War And Not Know It.
However i fully concede that civil war in the united states where neighbors are killing neighbors in outright armed cohesive military menouvering and conflict is just so far beyond the current comprehension of what Americans are like (not the government, but the people) that it seems EXTREMELY unlikely any time soon.
Originally posted by Vitchilo
Anyone think that if Bush declares Martial Law (due to Wilma/Bird Flu/CIA terrorist attack ) in the entire country and gains the control of the army it could get real as JT predicted wisely?
well do keep in mind ruby ridge was not to the level of waco and he did use that as an example didnt he?
Originally posted by Master Wu
Ive never stated that i believe the timetravel aspect (in fact, not only have i never stated that i believe JT, i have stated that his story OBVIOUSLY BS). I do however remember stating that regardless if he was real or not, we had all better keep our eyes open and aware of what the government is up to. Failing to do so could get you and those around you killed (yes i am ex-military).
It does me no good to show you examples. I gave some examples in page 64 of this thread of waco type events (which were 'blown off' as being nothing but BS)... i guess you just can't prove to flatlanders that the world is round until they are pushed off the edge lol.
BTW you probably don't live in a border state or you would see armed conflict quite often (i have a relative who owns land in texas right on the border with mexico, i have personally buried bodies of people who were shot - both white and mexican - and no we werent the ones shooting).
Ever see two gangs shoot at each other or a police/gang shootout? I have, and i'd easily characterize that as organised armed conflict. Ruby Ridge falls into that catagory as well. So does the conflict with the Mohicans up in New York. The militia shootout in Montana about 8 years ago. The police shootout with the KKK in alabama.
And if 911 wasnt organised armed conflict, then i guess i just don't know what is.... maybe you are right after all, the world is rosy and the government isnt out to control you, go back to watching your tv shows, no one will be hurt and the world will turn out to be better than the one your parents lived in. Heck i'll even join in on your chant "Viva Bush! Viva Cheney! Viva Iraq! Long Live The Patriot Act! Down With The Environment! Screw The Electoral Process! And screw anyone who gets in the way of any of it!