Originally posted by GoldEagle
1. People that are strongly with Titor's story.
2. People that are strongly against Titor's story.
3. People that act like they are neutral yet, it is evident that they believe that Titor was real.
that's probably quite accurate, tbh, i'd love
to be indifferent towards JT's story, but i can't, there's too much coincidence, although,
curiously, i do not expect these events will come to pass like a B movie.
let me try to explain if i don't make any sense, sorry for that.
whenever people have a conversation, they assume a lot, explicit information is rare, perhaps even scarce, we live in a context which we take for
granted, IF there were hints of deviating backgrounds (assuming this guy actually was some sort of alien) chances are we (and JT) would overlook them.
has anyone asked him about Nostradamus, for example?
let this sink in for a millisecond, all this guy was talking about was WW3 and how evil we are, no mention of the past, except for Jesus Christ of
course and, duh, the Y2K bug
. as silly as that may sound when typed into the same sentence. Y2K didn't happen, which can be assumed the
biggest cop-out ever or, if we still believe he's in a way real, or a sign of something more fundamental, basically that our world looks similar but
the nuances of history are different, therefore our reaction to future events will be different, too, which i strongly assume, for purely irrational
reasons of course.
as i've indicated earlier, a development can be predicted, sometimes over long periods of time, presidential elections going hand in hand with a
police /crowd control arms race being one example, it's perfectly clear that statemen's percieved need for security and importance knows neither
moderation nor limits, eg. summits usually held in citys, inhabitants kicked out as if they were peasants, is it so wrong to expect the trend to
continually worsen? it isn't it's ingrained in the sytem, there is NO choice, NO chance to tear around the steering wheel barring superhuman
i suppose you are familiar with the a political theory where crisis are understood as opportunites to (re)shape the political landscape, like they did
in 9/11 ? if not you'll probably vaguely remember it, some people loved to talk smack in the wake of 2001.. that's exactly the case here, we're
living through a period of boneheaded collectivism, the art of politics is understanding when to do what and patience can be very useful (Bismark,
paraphrased) - or detrimental if you pick the wrong time, or more accurately, miss it.
question is, will the crisis which, is imho, next to inevitable take the shape and extent of JT's horror story or not? i doubt it, i believe, and
that's only personal intuition if you wish that we are not complacent enough to let this happen, which we won't know until 'it' hits the fan. you
see Y2K could have easily been dismissed as BS, as many still believe. (for the record, i DON'T, i heard of strange surreal horror tales half a year
later that Berlin's emergency services had beedn FUBARED by Y2K resulting in ~10-20 people slowly dying while stuck in car wrecks for hours and many
homes burning down to the basements while being 'contained' by garden hose firefighting by local residents, while, on the harmless side, a local
photo studio had to close a week earlier because all buisiness data had been lost in a Y2K related crash)
ok, so long as we're stuck in the pigheaded currents of history, our world will look like JT's in the beginning, because what's happening is just
the final manifestation of things gone wrong for decades, it would take more decades to correct it, if we could - or 'reboot' aka. revolution.
that's exactly what's missing in JT's fairy tale, fighting, yes, atrocities, yes, effective broadscale resitance? no. Russia supposedly bailed them
out by the use of well, questionable means
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by Master Wu
...Isn't his idea of a gravity meter flawed? Could someone shed some light on this for me, i don't really know that much about gravity, so its all
just a thought.
glad you mention it i was at first unsure wether to discuss this aspect here, but i feel it's at least partially on topic. one thing that struck me
as odd wrt John Titor, from the beginning was his awfully slow method of traverse, i mean HG Wells' idea of a time machine includes a short trip
where time spent traveling is merely used to 'navigate through time' as you'd drive a locomotive, most 'slider' and timetravel novels include no
delay at all, the time machine is more like a jump drive, operating instantly.
i have never ever stumbled across timetravel fiction including rather modest 'range' (60 years) and hours of travel. this is as far as i know,
uniquely JT, whatever that means (wether he's just a freak thinking outside the box or the real deal) plus it's completely consistent with his
descriptions of a 'gravity lock technique', which would (in case it existed), if i understand it correctly, slowly travel the path of minimal
discerning of which would of course take some time, limited by sensor input and speed of calculation determining 'time rate' (faster
proc, faster travel), so no, imho, there's no inconsistency with VGL units, because even the closest variety of your universe still features Luna
circling Terra, changes exist but they are minimal on the chosen path. sry for spelling errors and looong post :p edit: bold text got out of hand
[edit on 11-10-2005 by Long Lance]