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The American Civil War of 2005 as predicted by John Titor

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posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 07:54 AM
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sorry to have to interject with facts and reason, but

www.cnn.com...

(CNN) -- A catastrophe such as Hurricane Katrina has shown how lines of authority can become blurred when it comes to handling an emergency. CNN spoke with a number of legal experts to discuss the law governing the removal of residents from New Orleans.

Q. Has martial law been declared in Louisiana?

A. No.

"People are using that term far too loosely," said Duke University School of Law professor Scott Silliman. "Martial law can only be imposed by a governor or the president of the United States when there is a total absence of any governing authority (meaning no courts, etc). Martial law allows the federal military to come in to preserve the country."

This has not happened




posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 08:14 AM
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Maybe its civil unrest and not civil war in America. But civil unrest can quickly gather pace and strength, if the US is hit by another emergency. The hurricane season has only just started, and it seems like the administration is already stretched far too thin. There are refugees in (according to SKYNEWS) over 20 other states from the katrina aftermath.

Then after the windy season comes winter, the fear of more power cuts and freezing temperatures. Unless the current administration cleans up its act it can forget about the million man march, it will be the ten million man march on Washington.

Maybe the white house wants the people to rebel against them, that would give them the cause to declare a state of emergency, allowing Bush to stay in office as long as he wants.

Maybe the civil war in America is not technically a civil war, more like the people of Americas' struggle to throw of the shackles of a fascist dictatorship.

I personally think that Titor is a quack, but I also feel that the American government have a few skeletons in the closet and more than a few hidden agendas.



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 08:39 AM
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This a message to the current moderator of this thread.

Nowhere have I violated any rules of this thread in comparison with posts from other members.

I would like to receive a proper explanation for the warning you seem to found necessary to give to me.

Roth.



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 08:43 AM
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Can you see the button that says "Gripe/Idea" at the top of the page? Why don't you use that button instead of involving the whole board in your personal drama.

My guess is that your warning was for calling someone a fool. That's really not that nice ya know. You also threw in something about someone being pathetic and childish. That's just my guess. Use the gripe/idea feature of ATS to post a message directly to the moderators.

[edit on 9-9-2005 by savannah]



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 08:47 AM
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Dude as much as i love reading your posts and as much as i agree with you on a number of topics i think there is a clear reason for the warning.

This is from the post you were warned about



You are an utter fool



I think it could be taken as a personal attack.

I agree with you that in comparison to some other post in this thread (and to some of the things said against you) it's not that bad. But as that old saying goes, two wrongs don't make a right



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by savannah
Can you see the button that says "Gripe/Idea" at the top of the page? Why don't you use that button instead of involving the whole board in your personal drama.

My guess is that your warning was for calling someone a fool. That's really not that nice ya know. You also threw in something about someone being pathetic and childish. That's just my guess. Use the gripe/idea feature of ATS to post a message directly to the moderators.

[edit on 9-9-2005 by savannah]

Nice try Savannah. It's not about personal drama you see, it's about fairness.

It's interesting you guessed I might have receive a warning for calling someone a "fool" and "pathetic" and "childish." That's exactly why I want a proper explanation from the current moderator as he/she might have missed some posts from other members using similar terminology.

So here I am using my right of objection. I am sure you'll understand Savannah.

And Burgess, I've just read your post as well. If the abovementioned would be the case than I sincerely hope ALL members on this thread will be equally treated according to the rules and there will be NO double standards:

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posted by ThatsJustWeird on 16-7-2005 at 12:20 PM Post Number: 1539546 (post id: 1561439)

How do you spell Idiot again? Is it R-o-t-h? Yes I think it is.

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posted by ThatsJustWeird on 18-7-2005 at 03:23 PM Post Number: 1544765 (post id: 1566658)

And you're an idiot if you think I even remotely suggested that.

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posted by ThatsJustWeird on 1-9-2005 at 04:05 AM Post Number: 1651928 (post id: 1673821)

I completely agree Roth. You are disgusting.

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posted by ThatsJustWeird on 6-9-2005 at 05:07 PM Post Number: 1666562 (post id: 1688455)

You quoted me, but you didn't even take the time to read what I said. Pathetic.


[edit on 9-9-2005 by Roth Joint]



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 08:59 AM
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Roth Joint, I think the reason why this thread is still alive is because everyone loves reading your post. That goes without question. But you probably received the warning by using 'You are an utter fool'. It would have been better to reword your statement using the word 'foolish' instead.

[edit on 9/9/2005 by Simulacra]



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by Simulacra
Roth Joint, I think the reason why this thread is still alive is because everyone loves reading your post. That goes without question. But you probably received the warning by using 'You are an utter fool'. It would have been better to reworded your statement using the word 'foolish' instead.


Thank you Simulacra. I will try to see if I am still able to reword "You are an utter fool" into "this is foolish."

My sincerest apologies if I may have offended anyone. If I am not able to reword the abovementioned terminology I will repost it with the reworded phrase.

Roth.

[edit on 9-9-2005 by Roth Joint]



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 09:18 AM
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Can we have an end to the drama please. There's more than one person to blame here and all parties involved need to stop. Stop make personal comments about other members and stick with the issue. If anyone has a gripe about the way they are being treated by another member, moderator, whoever, then please use the gripe/idea feature. You will get a much faster response there than placing your complaint in the thread. (Also it will keep the tread from being derailed into a boxing match.)

Now back to discussing the hoax that is John Titor.



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 09:45 AM
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My reworded post to ThatsJustWeird:

Dear ThatsJustWeird,

I tend to think that is a bit foolish. Not only that, but I am presenting you facts from people who truly work on those levees (I suggest you read them again on this thread) whilst in my opinion you were merely showing propaganda from the influenced U.S. Army Corps of Engineers officials through a telephone interview.

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers said Thursday that a lack of funding for hurricane-protection projects around New Orleans did not contribute to the disastrous flooding that followed Hurricane Katrina.

In a telephone interview with reporters, corps officials said that although portions of the flood-protection levees remain incomplete, the levees near Lake Pontchartrain that gave way--inundating much of the city--were completed and in good condition before the hurricane.



So far for what I would call clear propaganda. And now for the facts:

THE LEVEES COULDN'T BE FINISHED AS OPPOSED TO WHAT THE US ARMY ENGINEER CORPS OFFICIALS WANT US TO BELIEVE:

www.tpmcafe.com...
"It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay," Maestri said. "Nobody locally is happy that the levees can't be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us."

www.philly.com...
For the first time in 37 years, federal budget cuts have all but stopped major work on the New Orleans area's east bank hurricane levees, a complex network of concrete walls, metal gates and giant earthen berms that won't be finished for at least another decade.

KATRINA DID NOT DIRECTLY HIT NEW ORLEANS AS A CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE:

www.cbc.ca...
"Katrina, which weakened slightly overnight to a strong Category 4 storm, turned slightly eastward before hitting land, which would put the western eyewall - the weaker side of the strongest winds - over New Orleans.

"It's not as bad as the eastern side [of hurricane Katrina]. It'll be plenty bad enough," said Eric Blake of the National Hurricane Center in Miami."

www.wistv.com...
"The National Hurricane Center estimates the strongest winds to hit New Orleans were about 100 miles-per-hour. Authorities in New Orleans say at least 40,000 homes have been flooded."

As we have learned now, a Category 2 Hurricane has winds between 96 and 110 miles per hour. And a Category 3 Hurricane has winds between 111 and 130 miles per hour.

So again, the FACTS are clear and simple:
New Orleans wasn't hit with the strength from a Category 5 or 4 Hurricane. New Orleans was hit by Katrina with a strength of no more then Category 3. Which brings us back to:

www.chicagotribune.com...
"Does this mean we should blame President Bush for the fact that New Orleans is underwater? No, but it means we can blame Bush when a Category 3 or Category 2 hurricane puts New Orleans under."



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 12:18 PM
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John Titor
“However, there are a great many "non lethal" weapon systems in development that turn out to be quite lethal.”
“They usually start out with, "In the future, the army and police will fight its enemies with new weapons systems…"
"When they use the word "enemy", they're talking about YOU!”
"I would describe it as having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse."
“While you sit by and watch your Constitution being torn away from you.”


Aggressive taser use by law enforcement officers getting out of control:

www.chillicothegazette.com.../20050830/NEWS01/508300304/1002

How many deaths?
Amnesty International USA announced in April that Taser-related deaths in the United States and Canada have hit triple digits growing from 74 in November 2004 to 103. The new number covers June 2001 to March 2005. In the first three months of 2005, there were a reported twice as many Taser-related deaths (13) as there were during the same period in 2004 (six), and as many as there were all year in 2002 (13).

www.zwire.com...
Amnesty International has said at least 129 people died between 2001 and July 2005 after being shocked with Tasers. At least 18 autopsies have labeled the Taser as a factor in the deaths. "The reality of the fact is people are dying,'' Steele said after the meeting.

Below, fortunately the little girl didn’t die, but doesn’t this just make your blood boil?:


news.cincinnati.com.../20050909/NEWS01/509090434/-1/CINCI
Girl, 12, subdued with Taser
Cincinnati police: Use by officer in school complied with policy
September 9, 2005

NORTH AVONDALE - Cincinnati police subdued a 12-year-old girl with a Taser in an elementary school hallway after she refused to go to in-school detention and struggled with officers, officials said Thursday.

Officers were called to Burton Elementary School, 876 Glenwood Ave., about 11:20 a.m. Wednesday after the girl refused to go to her in-school suspension class, a police report said. "The student became very, very upset to the point that the school staff thought they needed assistance beyond their security to calm the student," Cincinnati Public Schools spokeswoman Janet Walsh said Thursday.

When officers arrived, they talked with the girl - who continued to refuse to stand up from her chair, police said. When an officer placed a hand on her arm she became combative and began to struggle with officers, according to a police report. Officers warned her that if she didn't follow the officers' demands, they would use a Taser on her. Walsh said she did not think other students saw the confrontation.


Below, little boy’s heart failure by Taser use and Ronald Hasse murdered by nearly one full minute of 50,000 volts of Taser-torture:


www.suntimes.com...
Doctors: Taser stopped teen's heart
September 4, 2005

A 14-year-old shocked by a Chicago Police stun gun has become the first Taser-linked cardiac arrest to be documented in a medical journal, two doctors from Children's Memorial Hospital say.

The doctors, in a letter published in the New England Journal of Medicine last week, say the electricity delivered from the Taser stun gun led the boy to suffer "ventricular fibrillation,'' in which the heart stops beating. In the boy's case, paramedics already on the scene immediately used a defibrillator to restart his heart. The doctors argue that police who deploy Tasers should carry such medical equipment just in case.

The conclusion was made by Paul Kim and Wayne Franklin, two heart specialists at Children's Memorial, where the boy was treated after the incident in February. It follows a similar conclusion in July by the Cook County medical examiner's office in a case that happened the same week. The medical examiner ruled the death of Ronald Hasse was a homicide, occurring after Chicago Police used a Taser for nearly a minute to subdue him.


And more:


www.chillicothegazette.com.../20050830/NEWS01/508300304/1002
Man struck with Taser dies
Cause of death still undetermined
August 30, 2005

A sheriff deputy's use of a Taser gun is being looked at as a part of an investigation into Friday's death of a 40-year-old Laurelville man.

Shawn Norman, of 16557 Ohio 327, died Friday at Berger Hospital in Circleville. Norman was taken there by medical squad after deputies from the Ross County Sheriff's Office noticed he was having difficulty breathing, went into unconsciousness and lost his pulse at the scene of his arrest. [HAVEN’T WE HEARD THIS BEFORE?] Norman was suspected of grand theft and burglary.

Sheriff Ron Nichols said Norman was hit three times with about 50,000 volts from a M-26 Taser. However, he said, a cause of death has not been issued and he would not comment on whether the device contributed to Norman's death. [HAVEN’T WE HEARD THIS BEFORE?]

www.accessnorthga.com...
SCLC will lead protest march against Taser gun use
August 26, 2005

A civil rights group said Friday it will lead a march to protest the use of Taser guns by law enforcement.

The announcement was made by the president of the Atlanta-based Southern Christian Leadership Conference who said the three-mile march Nov. 12 will be held in the suburban Atlanta town where a jailed man died days after he was stunned with a Taser.

The SCLC previously had asked that District Attorney Danny Porter reopen the investigation of the death of Frederick Williams, who died in May 2004 after deputies stunned him with a Taser gun while in jail. The civil rights group wanted him to recommend a special grand jury be convened to re-examine whether the deputies should be held accountable for the 31-year-old Lawrenceville man's death.

The group wants the raise awareness about the dangers of law enforcement using Taser guns. The SCLC plans to urge the stun gun's manufacturer, Taser International Inc., to stop manufactering the devices on Tuesday in Atlanta, Steele said.

www.cantonrep.com...
Taser gun arrest video circulated
September 9, 2005

CANTON — The brother of a man who died after police used a Taser gun during his arrest gathered reporters at the Stark County Courthouse on Thursday to voice his family’s disapproval of last week’s grand jury decision not to indict the officers.

Two police officers were called to the home of Shawn Pirolozzi on June 13 after residents reported seeing a bloody and naked man running into traffic and jumping on cars. Police said that when the officers arrived, he attacked them. One officer shot him with a shock-inducing Taser.

Videotape from the police cruiser shows Pirolozzi struggling with the arresting officers. One officer repeatedly hit Pirolozzi in the neck in what police said was a trained technique used on uncooperative suspects. The other officer is seen kicking him. The Police Department released the same tape several weeks ago.



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 01:57 PM
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After this is done I want my $100



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John Titor- The time Traveler.

If done right, his story could turn into a pretty decent novel. And by done right I mean filling all the holes. And most importantly.....taking the time travel part out.
1. Energy. Can anyone here imagine how much energy it would take to send a human being through time intact? No you can't. No matter how much I try, I just can't imagine that much energy harnessed. It's simply not possible.

2. We're humans. I don't think people realize how fragile our bodies are. Does anyone honestly believe we can be exposed to the amount of energy, forces, pressure, etc. that it take to time travel and not be completely obliterated?

3. Materials. Pop quiz! What element on Earth, moon, Mars, whereever is abundant enough, and strong enough (to withstand the toils of time travel) to create time machines?

Give up? There is none

4. The multiverse. So apparently according to Titor there are and infinate number of timelines. If you do overcome all impossibilites and time travel, getting back to where you started is virtually impossible. He can't get back to his worldline, and he can't come back to this one. Yet....he has a job as a time traveler....
How is this possible? How is it possible that after every mission, he goes back to his world and the people are the same, the events that led up to that point are the same, etc. He says there's only a 1-2% divergence.....but that is significant! The difference between us and monkeys is about 2%. Yet he never makes any comments about the year 2036 being different every time he goes back. Are you telling me that in every possible worldline time travel is discovered by 2036, and in every one there's a civil war and a nuke war?

5. Timing is everything. Speaking of Civil and Nuclear wars....Titor claims he's from the year 2036. The US and and rest of the world has been at war since at least 2004 until about 2016 (let's assume the nuke war lasts a year or so - he never specifies). Years of war. Billions - not millions - billions dead. Resources limited. Water and environment a mess. Yet in just 20 years after, society is able to surpass what took hundreds as far as Tech is concerned. The world's population would not have replenished in just 20 years meaning services would be extremely stretched. Resources will still be rare. The worldwide economy would be in shambles. Yet they still have time to create time machines.

Instead of rebuilding and surviving, they're busy making time machines. It would take billions upon billions of dollars to create such machines. Where did they get the money?? Why aren't they rebuilding with that money?? Again, any time machines would use tons upon tons of amounts of energy. Why in the world are they wasting that energy on time travel, when they need it then and there. It would take years and years of R and D to create time machines. When did they have time for all that??

6. Testing. This could go with #4. Since there are multiple time lines and you can't get back to your original.....how exactly do you successfuly test a time machine? There's no way you can create such things without testing them.




next up: John Titor's Civil War and his other "predictions"



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
After this is done I want my $100



You didn't prove anything... all you did was state your opinion, which i believe is incorrect in that Time Travel is possible, and the power source required would come from a mini-black hole made by GE and CERN

...but please keep going



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 02:40 PM
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Perhaps our definition of war is different. I would define it as a conflict where organized groups engage in maneuver and armed conflict."


anyone see this yet ?


I'm confused, is new orleans a waco type event, or has the war started ?



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest


I'm confused, is new orleans a waco type event, or has the war started ?


Its yet another Waco like event. There will be more to follow.



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by Where2Hide2006
You didn't prove anything... all you did was state your opinion, which i believe is incorrect in that Time Travel is possible, and the power source required would come from a mini-black hole made by GE and CERN

...but please keep going

I'll post the rest later, because I want to deal with comments like this first.
Ok, you believe Time Travel is possible. Well....go ahead and explain how.

And again, converting any "mini-black hole" into a harnessable energy source, then converting that into something that can be used for time travel would take an incredible amount of energy, time (for R and D), and money. Right now.
In the Titor story, they're able to do all that in just 20 years post apocalypse in which half the world dies (and after such a war the vast majority remaining would be extremely sick due to all the radiation and the lack of health care, extremely poor - remember all the business centers [major cities] were destroyed - and struggling, etc.). When would they have had the time to worry about time travel??? WHY would they be researching time travel when the world around them THEN needs help.
And again, such a project would take billions upon billions of dollars. Money I'm sure they would use rebuilding society, not worrying about time travel.

Something I didn't touch on earlier. This supposed computer problem. Let's say the gov or whoever did just happened to have billions of dollars just lying around. Why not use that money to fix the computer problem? Or just simply create a new system! I'll go over his lame explanations over this later as well.



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 05:36 PM
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Seriously, if this UNIX problem is true then, why didn't they just use Windows or another OS instead of building a bloody time machine and flying back 37 years to pick up a computer from the 70s? For goodness sakes, they built a "TIME MACHINE" and they can't correct a problem on a computer, they just have to change a bit of code or make a patch. Couldn't they made a program that can translate the code on a Basic computer, or replicate the hardware in the 70s IBM?

Apparently the further we go into the future, people get dumber.

EDIT: Also I dug up some info about that error. It's real, but well known and should be fixed by then.


2038/01/19: (03:14:07 GMT) 2**31 seconds from 00:00:00 GMT, Thursday 1st January 1970 (UNIX's birthday). The seconds counter used for date/time information in UNIX and C and C++ will reach 2,147,483,647 - the largest number which can be stored as a 32-bit signed integer. As a result an overflow problem will occur (i.e. the value of the next number is unpredictable). Time differences mean it appears that it will happen earlier in America (22:14:07 US EST, Monday 18th January 2038). There will also be a an additional problem due to a discrepancy of a few seconds between system clocks and astronomical time because the system will not have taken account of leap second adjustments made in the interim period. This may be significant only for a few very specialised systems, but could give rise to difficulties if changes are based on algorithms which do not take this into account. It is understood that the Java programming language (which in many respects closely resembles C++) will not have this problem.

www.iee.org...

2,147,483,647 is the largest number a 32-bit computer can hold in is memory. The new 64-bits can hold larger numbers. By the year 2010 many people will be using the 64-bit systems. 32-bits will go the way of the 16 and 8-bits by the year 2038.



[edit on 9/9/2005 by GoldEagle]



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 07:13 PM
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I don'tr have much time to post here now...But

Thatsjustwierd, you have stated over and over on this thread that Time travel is impossible, know you state that the Energy involved is why its impossible, and that the human body or any material on earth could not withstand the Energy created in order to time travel. Ok... I think you are wrong, Humans once believed that humans could not with stand the G-forces of breaking away from Earth Atmosphere+ gravity..Humans believed that the world was flat, Humans according to the Bible believe we and our Sun was the center of the universe....ect..ect. These are just my opinions..ok I don't have any links to back up what I say...But if I recall correctly the scientific break-through happen before major conflict erupts in the USA, then around the world. I think your trouble comprehing timetravel, Is like my trouble comprehending that the universe is Infinite, this boggles my mind, but its all good.

Muti-verse
It seems to me that a multi-verse to exist in Reality is impossible, or lets say that messes with my head too...But If a multi-verse Existied in lets say some type of matrix, or colossal computer simulation I could fathom it. or it would seem to make sence logically. heavy crap to believe in, but no more heavy than Jesus, or UFO's

ill discuss the 1-2% later

But I do believe the Tech and maybe the time machines were devloped Before War and Death, that we still seem to be [Even If Titor is Bunk] headed for.

ok thats my 2 cents for now

peace



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by LDragonFire
I don'tr have much time to post here now...But

Thatsjustwierd, you have stated over and over on this thread that Time travel is impossible, know you state that the Energy involved is why its impossible, and that the human body or any material on earth could not withstand the Energy created in order to time travel. Ok... I think you are wrong, Humans once believed that humans could not with stand the G-forces of breaking away from Earth Atmosphere+ gravity..Humans believed that the world was flat, Humans according to the Bible believe we and our Sun was the center of the universe....ect..ect. These are just my opinions..ok I don't have any links to back up what I say...But if I recall correctly the scientific break-through happen before major conflict erupts in the USA, then around the world. I think your trouble comprehing timetravel, Is like my trouble comprehending that the universe is Infinite, this boggles my mind, but its all good.

Muti-verse
It seems to me that a multi-verse to exist in Reality is impossible, or lets say that messes with my head too...But If a multi-verse Existied in lets say some type of matrix, or colossal computer simulation I could fathom it. or it would seem to make sence logically. heavy crap to believe in, but no more heavy than Jesus, or UFO's

ill discuss the 1-2% later

But I do believe the Tech and maybe the time machines were devloped Before War and Death, that we still seem to be [Even If Titor is Bunk] headed for.

ok thats my 2 cents for now

peace



Maybe this Unix bug is just like the 2000 bullsh**??

And I personnally think that time travel is possible, maybe us are not aware of all the theories and possibilities.... Maybe the time machine was already completed before the war and they just found it?? And the human is very good in reverse-engineering so it would be easy to create another and another one...

And the money bullsh** don't count if you have to do something or die, I'm not paid? so i'll die or I'll not do a thing that could save the world... And the meaning of money maybe is far less than today because a new mentality developped after the war?

And I also think that everything we believe, is possible... if the human never thoought of flying, we wouldn't be here... and all the greatest inventions and greatest inventors such as Einstein and Tesla... So if we believe in time travel maybe is possible?

[edit on 9-9-2005 by Vitchilo]



posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 07:32 PM
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JT never said that time travel was common. In fact i believe he once stated that most people in his own time do not believe in it. I think that its highly inferred that he was part of some 'secret government type thing' that had in its history been part of a university in a remote type location.

It isnt anything like "we have progressed to where mankind is timetravelling", its more like "at area 51 we have a small group of timetravellers". And let us not forget, even NOW there are masses of people who think everything is normal (secret, yet normal) at even area 51 (or nellis, or wright patterson etc...)

Whos' to say the victors didn't later come across (or had members previously working at) these secret type bases and just furthered their research? It's the INFRASTRUCTURE of technology that needs rebuilding, not the cutting edge of technology that needs to be regained. The cutting edge of technology would remain alive and expanding, but just in few isolated pockets. The infrastructure (web if you will) of technology would need MASSIVE amounts of time and research, let along laying new cables and 'nodes' etc in order to get society as a whole (whether isolated or not) back on its previously well integrated feet.

I think an arguement along the lines of "they need this archaic equipment but they have timetravel makes it unbelievable" is far too shortsighted and does not take into account the tenacity of americans when it comes to technology, post apocolyptic or otherwise.

Btw, some of the current cutting edge in technology involves slowing down and speeding up the speed of light itself, the simultanious communications between particles separated by time and space, the teleportation of light particles and waves, the quantum nature of electromagnetism, not to mention the holographic nature of time and space and how it relates to everything being connected and the multi-universe theory and its implications for time travel and quantum mechanics.

In some way shape or form, these technologies theories and applications of such would survive nuclear war, but in what shape or form would they do so?



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