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The American Civil War of 2005 as predicted by John Titor

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posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by Marid Audran
Martial Law in New Orleans? Does this support Titor?


You beat me to it. I just got off the phone with my family who lives in New Orleans. They actually told me that on Saturday, authorities literally tossed them out of their house. There was absolutely to time to prepare, gather belongings...etc.

Looks like unofficially started late last week.




posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by Simulacra

Originally posted by Marid Audran
Martial Law in New Orleans? Does this support Titor?


You beat me to it. I just got off the phone with my family who lives in New Orleans. They actually told me that on Saturday, authorities literally tossed them out of their house. There was absolutely to time to prepare, gather belongings...etc.

Looks like unofficially started late last week.


thank god the authorities did that. The death toll is over 55 right now. Thank god your relatives were not among the dead. I mean that, I am happy to hear they are OK.


but connecting it to titor ?
the only connection is he never mentioned katrina, even once, more evidence he is a hoax.
Never mentioned 9/11 or Bush by name.
the things he does name, the the "federal police" don't exist.
so he misses huge events, and is wrong about the ones he does mention.


thanks for the final nail in the coffin

case closed



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by LDragonFire
Ever heard of the song 4 dead in old Ohio, there was deaths in the civil rights era of the 60's. Just as there are deaths now, now we wait to see if things esculate.

If it didn't esculate into a civil war in the 60s when it was 100X worse than anything we're seeing now. Why would you think it would esculate now?



Again, Was there Any Talk in America About Civil War in America Before 2000?.....No there wasn't and you would have been hard pressed to fill one page of posts relating to a civil war in American before 2000, But then Why is it so easy Now????


Just because you weren't paying attention then doesn't mean no one talked about it. The level of Civil War talk has been the same since the last civil war. With a few spikes during Vietnam and after Waco.


The 2% varience makes sence to me, I can't believe that time travel would be an Exact science.

Just 1% is huge.
Time travel is impossible anyway....at least for humans or other living beings.

Just as a civil war in the US right now is impossible.
I've explained why thoughout this thread.


Why do you people keep tryin to bash Roth Joint, he is an American trying to get you people to see, these events predicted are right on our horizon, whether JT was a time traveler or not, his predictions have a better chance of becomeing true, than not.

Roth has mastered the art of changing the subject when backed into a corner. That gets extremely annoying after a while.
Tell us which of Titor's predictions have a better chance of becoming true than not?


the Afagans lasted like 12 years fighting the Soviets, so yes we could last ten years...

lol not a good comparison. Nevertheless, tell us how.



Originally posted by Simulacra

Originally posted by Marid Audran
Martial Law in New Orleans? Does this support Titor?


You beat me to it. I just got off the phone with my family who lives in New Orleans. They actually told me that on Saturday, authorities literally tossed them out of their house. There was absolutely to time to prepare, gather belongings...etc.

Looks like unofficially started late last week.


Name one natural disaster on this magnitude where martial law wasn't declared. Name just one.



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest

but connecting it to titor ?
the only connection is he never mentioned katrina, even once, more evidence he is a hoax.
Never mentioned 9/11 or Bush by name.
the things he does name, the the "federal police" don't exist.
so he misses huge events, and is wrong about the ones he does mention.


thanks for the final nail in the coffin

case closed


Ah! there is a reason for your error of thought!

John Titor Rules 09 January 2001

1. I will not disclose any information that will cause someone to personally gain by its knowledge. This means no stock or sports tips.

2. I will not disclose any detailed information that would allow someone to avoid death by probability. This means no earthquake or bombing information.

3. I will not disclose any information that may compromise any future actions by individual people or threaten their family and well-being.


John Titor December 13, 2000

Unfortunately, I have decided not to discuss events that you or I can do anything about. It is important that they be a surprise. Perhaps you are familiar with the story of the Red Sea and the Egyptians?



[edit on 30-8-2005 by XPhiles]



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 02:16 PM
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nothing more amusing than a time traveller who comes to a message board to talk about time travel and then sets rules which prevent him from being exposed !


if there is going to be a civli war in the US, can't I profit from that knowledge ? buy stocks in goods that will be needed ? bullets to boots ?





he must be laughung his arse off at you guys somewhere in bermuda, or whever the money from amazon.com goes


ok. point blank to all the titor supporters. 2 simple questions.

1) when are you moving out of the war zone ? Seriously, if you really believe this, only an idiot wouldn't move out of harms way with ample warning.

2) are you ready to kill other americans before the end of this year? that' s a simple yes or no answer in case you were wondering



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest

1) when are you moving out of the war zone ? Seriously, if you really believe this, only an idiot wouldn't move out of harms way with ample warning.



This is easy, as soon as I can see that the fight is at my doorstep, probably between 2006 and 2007... because the last of the people who will leave will leave in 2008. I will go to the Appalachian Mountains and start a farming community and I will bring many books on Water Systems and Electrical Systems and Farming.





Originally posted by syrinx high priest


2) are you ready to kill other americans before the end of this year? that' s a simple yes or no answer in case you were wondering



No. I would not kill anyone who wasn't intentionally trying to kill me first.

Frankly, Its YOU who I am affraid of. You will not make plans and will not have stored 2 years worth of food and supplies. Make it 3 years to be on the safe side... but you will have none. Your Money will be only paper and you will be without hope. You and your family will starve to death and you only way to survive will be to kill and steal for food.

Don't worry about me being a threat,...it you i'm worried about.



[edit on 30-8-2005 by Where2Hide2006]

[edit on 30-8-2005 by Where2Hide2006]



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 03:20 PM
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thank you for illustrating my points. No one will be doing any killing this year over the utah rave, and none of you really believe in this stuff.

case closed

[edit on 30-8-2005 by syrinx high priest]



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest
if there is going to be a civli war in the US, can't I profit from that knowledge ? buy stocks in goods that will be needed ? bullets to boots ?

Mmmh... what about stockpiling bikes and bicycle tires for 2008?.....

Know what I mean?...



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest
2) are you ready to kill other americans before the end of this year? that' s a simple yes or no answer in case you were wondering

No, we are not ready to kill Americans before the end of this year.

And if that doesn't happen will that mean that Titor's "prediction" about the second US civil war is not coming into our reality? Ofcourse not.

Firstly because Titor said that we would slowly, steadily grow into a civil war and secondly because the civil war would be between the forces of the US Government and their own American civilians.



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
Roth has mastered the art of changing the subject when backed into a corner. That gets extremely annoying after a while.


Thanks for the compliment.

However, the fact remains that on this entire thread you haven't been able to properly defend yourself against my stronger arguments that were systematically weakening every one of your objections against John Titor's chronicles.

Furthermore, you have mastered the "art" of mocking, scoffing and sneering with a very helpless and poor attempt at sophistry.



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priesthe must be laughung his arse off at you guys somewhere in bermuda, or whever the money from amazon.com goes

Wow. Really Syrinx... Yep, I can see "John Titor" already driving that fiery red Ferrari and waving at all those pretty girls outside there. All those MILLIONS of people standing in line to buy a mug from a purported "time traveller." Yep, BIG BUSINESS!
Let the money games begin...


Just follow that huge amount of money!



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 06:26 PM
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I am a martial arts instructor. The first thing i teach my students is how to avoid conflict. Sadly, i also teach how to be ruthlessly destructive once all measures of avoiding conflict are exhausted.

I have read everything i can on JT (i enjoy doing mental "what If its true" exercises with interesting but whacky stories). And i have come to a few realizations about myself. My father worked for the government for 30+ years and made quite a good living at it too. I have been raised to honor and treat the government with reverent respect The one and only reason i have no tattoo's is because i thought i might work for the government too one day.

My views of the government started changing when i was in college (doesnt everyones? lol) when, among other things I started seriously studying american history with my own eyes and not through the eyes of others 'educational propaganda'. As a half-breed Native American with full blooded grandparents and great-grandparents who remember 'pax americana' and 'manifest destiny', i started to realize just how shifty our lofty american government can be and the degradations to which it will lower itself in pursuit of such shiftyness at times.

I consider myself a Pure Blooded American. I am a positive-contributing member to our society (at least i like to think i am), and so were my parents. I come from a fairly wealthy and influential family. But i will tell you this:

If it turns out that the United States government was behind 9-11 just so they can have this 'nwo war' and clamp down our civil liberties, I for one will quickly dedicate the rest of my life to fighting them as ruthlessly and as destructively as possible. It looks to be heading that way. Though i have yet to see the 'Unmistakable Proof' that would turn me into a militia nut, things DO seem to be headed in that direction.

The first thing i would do is avoid major cities, conflicts with police, and attention from the 'authorities' in any way shape or form. I would also do my best to teach each and every person i come across at least some small measure of self defense. As a military vet and lifelong hunter (for food only and only in season) i would not stop there.

Do i believe in the possibility of civil war in the united states during my lifetime? If its prooven that 'they' were behind 9-11, yes, i do. Would i do my best to avoid such a situation? Yes I would. Would i participate in a civil war against the united states government under such circumstances? You bet your britches i would. Wholeheartedly.

By the way, it was in 2005 that i realized what JT meant by "not putting blind trust in others". It was in 2005 that i started seriously thinking that maybe our government was behind 9-11. It was in 2005 that i realized that 'waco type events' means 'government being shady'. It was in 2005 that i finally started to prepare for that which i didn't really believe was possible: The Worst.

[edit on 30-8-2005 by Master Wu]



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by Roth Joint
However, the fact remains that on this entire thread you haven't been able to properly defend yourself against my stronger arguments that were systematically weakening every one of your objections against John Titor's chronicles.

Furthermore, you have mastered the "art" of mocking, scoffing and sneering with a very helpless and poor attempt at sophistry.

Wow.

Just wow.
You know at first I started to laugh at this, but then I realized how sad it is. Poor Roth. He has to resort to outright lies. Silly pathetic ones too.


Please show me any of these "stronger" arguments you presented to which I haven't addressed. Also please show where I have done any "mocking, scoffing, and sneering" (excluding any times I've got annoyed because you've changed the subject yet again or failed to give a straight answer yet again).



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest
a hurricane causing the downfall of western civilization ?

1) turn off the computer
2) open the door
3) go outside and get some fresh air




What do you think now?



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 07:14 PM
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Energy Prices Surge on Pipeline Snags

www.breitbart.com...


Governor says entire city needs to be evacuated

www.wwltv.com...


Katrina Devastation Called 'Overwhelming'

apnews.myway.com...


Martial Law

www.breitbart.com...

CNN reporting looting, car jackings and shooting....people going into survival mode....looking for anything to barter with for food and water...refugees on the highway, carjacking to get out of town...


2.7M W/OUT POWER...

news.yahoo.com...

PENTAGON IN HURRICANE RELIEF...

www.cnn.com...

The scale of this is scary. This is just the beginning of MUCH worse.....

There is already talk of mandatory quarantines because of potential disease....There are mandatory guard activations...

This will truly be historic......

One can only guess what the impact on the rest of the nation will be....

Don't underestimate how destabilizing this could be.....


[edit on 30-8-2005 by loam]



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 07:16 PM
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All you have to do is read the posts..pwned by Roth Joint.....easily

Im around 1/3 to 1/2 cherokee, can hunt, fish, garden, I can kill clean and cook anything, and have been able to since I was 10 years old. My 11 year old can do allmost what I can.

If civil war broke out in America, who ever said All the military would back the Fed. Government?....could citizens poorly armed, poorly supplied, poorly managed, in the woods, Fight the well armed USA military for 10 years?..Ask the Viet Cong...

If authoritys started to arrest people without due process, Are you gonna tell me you would sit idely by and let them Arrest your teenage son for petty offences running the chance of never seeing them again...or your best friend, or wife.....any father would fight and kill before they could allow this to happen.

Crime in the USA is at a thrity year low......then why are we moving more and more toward a policed state/militerized state. And Im not refering to Katrina disaster area, unless they[cops] start killing people for looting.

What if posting to this thread gets you the label of "Enemy Cobatant"...and its off to Gitmo you go.

Tazering people to death is a abomination against a free democracy[unless its a 1 on 1 confrantation]
Preemtive War is a abomination against a free democracy
Gitmo is a abomination against a free democracy
torture is a abomination against a free democracy
Using the military to police our civilian population is a amomination against a free democracy
bringing POW's from Afganistan/Iraq is against the Geneva Convention

peace

ps: I would much rather teach my kids to be productive members of our society. We will all know in the comming years what I had to teach them.



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 07:19 PM
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Sorry I forgot to add this....in the 60's we as americans Enjoyed a Increase in civil rights, especally minorities, the differance now is easy to see, Now Everyone is loosing rights at all levels, at a unprecedented pace...

peace



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 07:22 PM
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Look at almost ANY hurricane that has hit the United States in the last 50 years. The ONLY difference between them and this one is the fact that the city sits 12 feet below sea level, and will take a long time to drain the flooding from. This is NO different than ANY hurricane that has hit in recent times. As far as the Pentagon being involved, who ELSE is gonna do it? Fed Ex?



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 07:25 PM
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this sounds crazy but is there anything to this story about a Coup` in America by one of its Generals???

here is where i found this...

www.whatdoesitmean.com



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 07:28 PM
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He we removed from command for violating the Uniformed Code of Military Justice and committing adultery. Adultery is against the UCMJ, and you can and will be courtmartialed for it. He was going to retire soon anyway I believe so they simply fired him and let him retire. He was legally seperated from his wife, but having an affair.



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