TJW,
Mate, open your eyes. In fact these discussions happen everyday in the NWO, war on terrorism and current events forum as well ATSNN. I thought it
would be common knowledge now on this forum of just what 9/11 changed and what are the future implications. In fact you've been here 3 months longer
than me.
One sentence replies is the most I will do, unless further expounding is necessary.
btw, if time travel is available in the future, that would mean it's available now, right?
And how do these time travelers keep their vehicles from being seen?
And what if the UFO's seen by millions around the world, are time travellers?
Talking about here and now - 2005.
Nothing happens until 2015 however. (btw, he doesn't even say that China forces them to annex. It could be Russia for all we know.)
We have a future scenorio in the time-frame 2005-2015 given to us by Titor. This is what we are debating.
Now, the recent events of China making threats to Australia and Japan, make Titor's scenorio more plausible than before. Now, we are not saying it
will happen, but most people can see his scenorio being somewhat plausible. Perhaps, it was just an extrapolation of the events in 2001. However,
nonetheless, it reinforces his case.
To corroborate Titor's story, there is already some technical documents photographs and his demonstration of what he calls is a distortion field, and
events - the civil unrest during election time, CERN hopeful of creating a microsingularity . In fact there is a patent by GE scientist for a
gravitomagnetic device.
and the problems in the Middle east, which are several times greater than in Titor's time. Finally, his foretelling of civil rights being stripped
away. I believe he also said something about 9/11, correct me If I'm wrong. Finally his good knowledge of physics and his rather passionate and
sincere story of his life.
You know when I first read about Titor, I was very dubious and called it bad science fiction. However, this is why reading and researching is a wise
thing to do.
No doubt it changed. But the change for most countries wasn't forever.
As far as I know, the patriot act has completely changed the face of the constitution and bill of rights. There have been constant terrorist drills
and threats, and I guess your own people in power saying "America is in danger " "We will need to enforce martial law, if another attack happens"
Hey, wasn't that part of the reason, why Bush was re-relected? Meanwhile, here in UK, we have many police state bills passed. Finally Bush openly
coming out and declaring a NWO is to begin.
Then finally consider national ID card, the constant wars in the Middle east and human microchipping. Are you awake, mate?
Not new, just focused more on.
Yep, nothing new about scarpping many amendents of consititution and making plans for martial laws and building concentration camps for civil
dissenters - not my words - General Ashcroft - architect of the patriot act.
]Examples?
Read above.
So all the countries you mentioned in a police state now....
hmmm....
They are just teetering on the edge at this moment. You know like Nazi Germany was teetering on the edge once. All that is left is someone openly
coming out and saying. "He folks, even though it was very obvious we have become a police state, you still didn't get it, so I have taken it upon
myself as your president to tell you we have become one and this is necessary because of the dangerous times we live in" Are you oblivious to all
those people around the world, even in America itself, that are now caling America a police state? There's your civil war right there.
Iran is about to be invaded?? By who???
By the fairies and elves, who else
There is a topic on this right now, in fact this is being discussed ever since 2005 begun, and people with
common sense, can put 2 and 2 together. You know I really believe it now, that quite a sizable portion of Americas believe the earth revolves around
the sun once a day.
]As evidence by what?
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Threats to Australia and Japan and rising tensions. This because American foreign policy is destabalizing and giving countries like China the
confidence to settle their own issues. This is how world wars begin. Oh, and Titor said this too.
On who? Their war started before 9/11....
I guess the nuclear weapons war games of destroying as many American cities as possible and cause more than a 100 million deaths by Russia means
nothing? I guess the military exercises between Iran and Russia and Russia supporting Iranian nuclear policy, even giving it nuclear technology, means
nothin? I guess Russia slamming America diplomatically, means nothing either? Finally, I guess Russia being a major business partner of Iran for oil,
means nothing either?
America expanding in it's backyard like a cancer, means nothing either? All the world wars have occurred after escalating tensions between several
countries and many wars. America has invaded Afghanistan and Iraq and is now set to invade Iran and is making threats against North Korea at the same
time. In fact it has an entire list of countries that need democracy
. Oh, and I guess the fact that North Korea is makiing threats against America
and telling it how it can nuke it's cities. Means something else?
Russia, North Korea, China and Iran are involved in this. And you say tensios can't rise to world war?
How did you get into lala land mate. I want to go too!
Who's fearing a world war?
I can guarentee you a world war would NOT erupt if the US attacked Iran.
And if it did, who would be fighting who?
Yeah, but your guarantee is not worth anything, after all those silly claims
you have made.
Iran, Syria and Russia vs US, UK.
China vs Japan, Taiwan and Australia and US
A world war will not erupt right away, but the tensions will reach a point of no return
and quickly spiral out of control. Again, what Titor said.
lol
I really want to know how much you were affected?
Do you know someone who died?
Do you know someone who knew someone who died?
Probably not. Well, when you find that person, then come talk to me about not being affected.
I was affected by having my civil rights taken away
And that's bad no doubt. The economy overall however is not dire.
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If would be surprised if you can even count to 7 trillion
American debt is 70% of it's GDP. Dude, you are tripping!
The debt is rising by $2 billion a day.
The US dollar has dropped below the pound and the Euro even further
And US is falling in everything from health care, quality of life, literacy, science.
I suggest you read Soicrow's topic in ATSNN. Someone needs a wake-up call and
I can't think of a better topic on ATS to do it. Heck, America is losing jobs like water to China and India.
Most of the infotech and hi-tech companies in America and run by Indians.
Plus, their equipment is outdated.
They've admitted this themselves, that's why the war games they've been having has been focusing on trying to draw the enemy in a Iraq type
situation.
You have no idea, if you think Iran is going to the same as Iraq. Iran is much bigger than Iraq. mountainous, has a potent air force, good navy and
land forces. Let me just put it like this, you will see US soliders there dropping like mosquittos, that most likely a draft will be commisioned and
ordinary civlians will be sent in this pointless and criminal war. There's where your civil war chances will sky rocket. This is just a fact, that
people who live in the real world know.
I know more about your county and it's system then you know yourself. That is really sad. Hey, a lot of people here from other countries, know more
about it than you. Don't you feel ashamed? Ah, Americans quite an arrogant and shamless bunch.
Doh, I promised you one sentence rep'ies. Ah well, I just didn't have time to be brief.
[edit on 14-3-2005 by Indigo_Child]
