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The American Civil War of 2005 as predicted by John Titor

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posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 03:53 AM
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ThatsJustWeird
Who's denying them? They're just irrelevant to Titor and everything else.


Who is denying them? YOU!

Taser's have been proven to be relevant with Titor by ATS members in this thread, along with microwave weapons.

John Titor:
However, there are a great many “non lethal” weapon systems in development that turn out to be quite lethal.” Anyone for microwave popcorn?

I’m not aware of any “mind control” devices being used on you now. However, there are a great many “non lethal” weapon systems in development that turn out to be quite lethal. Sometimes I watch your television programs that show SWAT teams using new non-lethal weapons. They usually start out with, “In the future, the army and police will fight its enemies with new weapons systems…” When they use the word “enemy”, they’re talking about YOU! You don’t really think the Marines are going to jump out of helicopters overseas with sticky goop, pepper spray and seizure lights, do you?



Again this link Thousands of Troops Are Deployed on U.S. Streets Ready to Carry Out "Crowd Control"



I am in Seattle and heard from the brother of one of the soldiers that they are engaged in exercises now. Amy Goodman reported that an Army spokesperson confirmed that they will have access to lethal and non lethal crowd control technologies and tanks.


Ah! The Military ready to use lethal and non lethal crowd control technologies on Americans. That goes against what you said a few pages back lol...



ThatsJustWeird
Titor CLEARLY stated what he meant by "war"


order and rights.

John Titor:
The conflict was not about taking and holding ground it was about order and rights. They were betting that people wanted security instead of freedom and they were wrong.


ThatsJustWeird
I don't know what you're talking about with the "Federal Empire" stuff.


The corporate-fascist world police or nWo.

John Titor
The United States counter attacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we (in the country) won.

On my worldline, we are no longer afraid of the “NWO”. Are you afraid of Nazis?



ThatsJustWeird
You're right. It's amazing that people out there like you guys still exist. I thought the human race would be further along by now.


Again your wrong...

The Titorites are light years ahead of you, we see into the future you don't.
You guys will soon be relics of the past along with those who thought the world was flat.






[edit on 9-10-2008 by imitator]




posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 06:17 AM
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Originally posted by imitator

The Titorites are light years ahead of you, we see into the future you don't.
You guys will soon be relics of the past along with those who thought the world was flat


Amen brother. Amen. I watch what Naomi Wolf has to say, I watch the markets, I watch Reinhardt, I watch all this and I see an NWO timeline delayed. If Y2k had happened I am sure we would be there by now... but it did not happen and as a result NWO plans were delayed but not stoped... But they are like the snake that eats its own tail. They can not win because their plans are foolish to begin with. They seek a civil war to create a new currency and steal much of the worlds property to make them richer and gain more power.

They think the pauper will accept this.

They, like aristocrats before them, they fail to understand that the pauper pumps their gas, cooks their meals, builds their homes, and in this underestimation they fail to understand their position on the totem pole. They think they are better than us....like the nightwatchman, they are not.


May they revel in their confidence today.

They will not win tomorrow.

[edit on 9-10-2008 by titorite]



posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by imitator
Who is denying them? YOU!

Taser's have been proven to be relevant with Titor by ATS members in this thread, along with microwave weapons.

I HIGHLY suggest you go back and read through this thread.
I guarantee you Titor was not talking about Tasers when talking about new non lethal weapon systems and it's fully explained why.


Again this link Thousands of Troops Are Deployed on U.S. Streets Ready to Carry Out "Crowd Control"

No wonder you're so screwed up. You're one of those that believes everything he sees.
That link is a bunch of nonsense. I highly recommend you read and do your own research. This believing everything will get you no where.





I am in Seattle and heard from the brother of one of the soldiers that they are engaged in exercises now. Amy Goodman reported that an Army spokesperson confirmed that they will have access to lethal and non lethal crowd control technologies and tanks.

LOL
First rule in looking at conspiracy sites:
Whenever something starts with something like "I heard or I know from a friend of a friend of a 2nd cousin of a step brothers great aunt twice removed" it is guaranteed to be BS. There has NOT been ONE case where that isn't true.

AGAIN, PLEASE DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.
It will help you out tremendously. Help you desperately need.



ThatsJustWeird
Titor CLEARLY stated what he meant by "war"


order and rights.

John Titor:
The conflict was not about taking and holding ground it was about order and rights. They were betting that people wanted security instead of freedom and they were wrong.

What?
I didn't say the cause of the war, I'm talking about the war itself.
You know, guns, bombs, tanks, etc.


The corporate-fascist world police or nWo.

John Titor
The United States counter attacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we (in the country) won.

On my worldline, we are no longer afraid of the “NWO”. Are you afraid of Nazis?

Titor clearly states any NWO FAILED to establish. Still not sure wtf you're talking about.
The U.S. was also in a civil war since 2004 before being nuked in Titor's world. And a bunch of other countries were fighting each other. When was there ever time for the U.S. to create an empire.
Newsflash, there wasn't.


Again your wrong...

The Titorites are light years ahead of you, we see into the future you don't.
You guys will soon be relics of the past along with those who thought the world was flat.

What future are you seeing? Ours or Titor's. This is a Titor thread and since Titor is a proven hoax, then why are you posting in this thread of YOUR vision of the future? Shouldn't you be creating a new thread?

I truly pity you in your delusional state...

Again it is very unfortunate there are still humans out there that are still this gullible....


[edit on 9-10-2008 by ThatsJustWeird]



posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird

This is a Titor thread and since Titor is a proven hoax, then why are you posting in this thread of YOUR vision of the future? Shouldn't you be creating a new thread?


[edit on 9-10-2008 by ThatsJustWeird]


Really? A PROVEN HOAX?!?! If that is so you can give the hoaxers name, Otherwise your just a liar bent on inciting anger by arguing illogical points with people.

Titor DID mention those less lethal (TAZERS) weapons as being quite lethal.

But you TJW... you are just trying to make people mad for the fun of it like others before you and that is truly pitiful. As the world goes to pot I got a feeling you are the type of person that will regert staying in the city.



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 12:04 AM
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You know what. Whatever. Seriously, if you "men of the future" are an example of the future enlightened man, then I am ending it all tomorrow. You cannot read. You talk in circles that demonstrate either great density or just willfull ignorance. And now I see that you would really rather sit at your computer promoting this crap over and over and over again with no proof whatsoever to back it up with....? That is sad. I have to admit, I just do not care this much anymore. Anyone with at least a normal IQ reading this thread knows what is wrong with it anyway.



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 03:21 AM
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ThatsJustWeird
I HIGHLY suggest you go back and read through this thread.
I guarantee you Titor was not talking about Tasers when talking about new non lethal weapon systems and it's fully explained why.


Your tactics are starting to be repetitious with no substance, statements like "go back and read through this thread." without providing any links is useless. Why not you give a brief explaination on this page, give me an assurance that you're really right.



ThatsJustWeird

That link is a bunch of nonsense.


Thousands of Troops Are Deployed on U.S. Streets Ready to Carry Out "Crowd Control

Every single word from that link makes perfect sense, pay attention it's a very reliable source.



ThatsJustWeird
LOL
First rule in looking at conspiracy sites:
Whenever something starts with something like "I heard or I know from a friend of a friend of a 2nd cousin of a step brothers great aunt twice removed" it is guaranteed to be BS. There has NOT been ONE case where that isn't true.

AGAIN, PLEASE DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.
It will help you out tremendously. Help you desperately need.


I would never post BS..... read the ArmyTimes


ArmyTimes: Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1 Ready to Carry Out "Crowd Control



www.armytimes.com...

They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.

Training for homeland scenarios has already begun at Fort Stewart and includes specialty tasks such as knowing how to use the “jaws of life” to extract a person from a mangled vehicle; extra medical training for a CBRNE incident; and working with U.S. Forestry Service experts on how to go in with chainsaws and cut and clear trees to clear a road or area.

The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.

“I was the first guy in the brigade to get Tasered,” said Cloutier, describing the experience as “your worst muscle cramp ever — times 10 throughout your whole body.

“I’m not a small guy, I weigh 230 pounds ... it put me on my knees in seconds.”


This is the same thing that happened to Germany before all their freedoms were taken away!

Notice they use Homeland with Army.

In German, homeland is translated as Heimatland, and this was a term used by the Nazis to refer to the more common German term "Vaterland" ("Fatherland"). It was also the name of a strongly pro-Nazi magazine edited by Wilhelm Weiss during the rise of the Nazi Party in Germany.



ThatsJustWeird
What?
I didn't say the cause of the war, I'm talking about the war itself.
You know, guns, bombs, tanks, etc.


You forgot K9 Units, flash bang, Stinger, Taser's and tear gas grenades.
It's all still there and being used... The conflict will consume everyone in the US by 2012 and end in 2015 with a very short WWIII.

The American Federal Empire policing the global backyard with Non-Lethal Weapons



www.globalsecurity.org

Non-Lethal Weapons

US forces increasingly operate in challenging environments known as military operations other than war. These operations include humanitarian assistance, military support to civil authorities, peacekeeping and peacemaking operations, and non-combatant evacuations. US Forces are involved in support and stability operations (SASO) throughout the globe. Maintaining and establishing law and order, reducing civil disturbances and responding to varied levels of threat have become mission assignments. Countering these with varied levels of force become recurring tasks for military forces involved in joint multinational and interagency operations.

Non-Lethal munitions applications will be used by military personnel to apply the minimum force necessary while performing missions of crowd control and area security at key facilities around the globe. These devices will aid military forces/commanders in situations of hostages rescue, capture of criminals, terrorists, or control of other adversarial persons.


John Titor: You don’t really think the Marines are going to jump out of helicopters overseas with sticky goop, pepper spray and seizure lights, do you?



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 03:24 AM
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Originally posted by imitator


I would never post BS..... read the ArmyTimes


ArmyTimes: Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1 Ready to Carry Out "Crowd Control



www.armytimes.com...

They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.



Who do you think puts out The Army times? So far this whole story has fallen flat of evidence. There is no proof whatsoever that any troops have been deployed. Unless you really want to claim that Alex Jones and John Titor share a credibility level, then by all means, you got me there.

or...

can you not read what your credible source says?

Correction:
A non-lethal crowd control package fielded to 1st Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, described in the original version of this story, is intended for use on deployments to the war zone, not in the U.S., as previously stated.


read ALL the way to the bottomarmytimes

[edit on 10/10/08 by MorningStar8741]



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 03:48 AM
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lol yes..... you see "correction" it's only there because of public outcry.

Just call the Air Force Lt. Col. a public affairs officer for Northern Command, she will tell you... However she has made a "correction" stating that the forces would not use nonlethal weaponry domestically. This is simply a lie.....They have a huge storage of lethal and nonlethal weapons there. These weapons are not there to be stored away... they are there to be used domestically.


[edit on 10-10-2008 by imitator]



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 03:50 AM
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Originally posted by imitator
lol yes..... you see "correction" it's only there because of public outcry.

Just call Air Force Lt. Col. Jamie Goodpaster, a public affairs officer for Northern Command, she will tell you... However she has made a "correction" stating that the forces would not use nonlethal weaponry domestically. This is simply a lie.....They have a huge storage of lethal and nonlethal weapons there. These weapons are not to be stored away... they there to be used domestically.


Are you telling me to call and check with someone that you are also stating will lie to me?



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by MorningStar8741

Are you telling me to call and check with someone that you are also stating will lie to me?


You said you wanted evidence so go ahead and call, check into it. I'm sure she is being told what to say. It's my opinion the military made the "Correction" a simple lie to keep it quite. However, those weapons are here to suppress any insurrection. What we are witnessing is a crackdown on dissent, the same people in Titor's world, they have the authority to arrest citizens and detain people without legal or constitutional recourse..

[edit on 10-10-2008 by imitator]



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by imitator

Originally posted by MorningStar8741

Are you telling me to call and check with someone that you are also stating will lie to me?


You said you wanted evidence so go ahead and call, check into it. I'm sure she is being told what to say. It's my opinion the military made the "Correction" a simple lie to keep it quite. However, those weapons are here to suppress any insurrection. What we are witnessing is a crackdown on dissent, the same people in Titor's world, they have the authority to arrest citizens and detain people without legal or constitutional recourse..

[edit on 10-10-2008 by imitator]


WOW!!!!!!!That is the best display of logic so far. You call someone a liar or say that they will lie on command and also tell me to check with them?????

So if they say yes, then I was proven wrong, but if they say no, then they are lying as told, and I am proven wrong. No wonder you are here sticking up for this farce. The story is not true. The troops are not 'here.' Do you not think that the powers that be would not have stopped that story before it got out instead of issuing a correction? Or how about taking it off the web instead of adding a correction. You really have lost it this time.



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by MorningStar8741
The story is not true.


Ok point me in the direction where it says it's not true..... provide me a better link.



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by imitator

Originally posted by MorningStar8741
The story is not true.


Ok point me in the direction where it says it's not true..... provide me a better link.


Ok, since you are on the merry-go-round already, I guess we need to agree on what you mean by "it." Which part of the story would you like proof of? That the story is false or that the correction is true? Did you miss where either way, it doesn't matter. You want a link, go right back to that story. You tell me what you think is true and I will be happy to correct you.



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by MorningStar8741

Ok, since you are on the merry-go-round already, I guess we need to agree on what you mean by "it." Which part of the story would you like proof of? That the story is false or that the correction is true? Did you miss where either way, it doesn't matter. You want a link, go right back to that story. You tell me what you think is true and I will be happy to correct you.


Looks like your changed your mind, Now what? You think part of it's true lol.... go right back to that story lol.... I will await your link, if you have one.....

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posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by imitator


Looks like your changed your mind, Now what? You think part of it's true lol.... go right back to that story lol.... I will await your link, if you have one lol...

[edit on 10-10-2008 by imitator]



What is it you want a link to? The bottom of the story, there is a correction. I do not know what else I can possible show or tell you. It was explained at the bottom of the page that these troops are not running around are streets, nor will they be. Read all the way to the bottom. Do you really need a new link to the story?


Correction:
A non-lethal crowd control package fielded to 1st Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, described in the original version of this story, is intended for use on deployments to the war zone, not in the U.S., as previously stated.


here


How many times do I get to collect points for reposting this article?


[edit on 10/10/08 by MorningStar8741]



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 02:35 PM
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study time travel alot better and understand some things haven't taken place that is in the bible code. I believe that Titor changed the world by accident with his prediction of y2k. With that, everything change. The Future isn't written in Stone, its up to you to Decide.



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 02:38 PM
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First you said the story is not true....
Now you changed your mind that the story is true.
You seem to believe the Correction is true lol.

The military now considers deployments to a war zone can be anywhere in the world even in the "Homeland" thus the correction is wrong.



[edit on 10-10-2008 by imitator]



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by sirbikesalot06
study time travel alot better and understand some things haven't taken place that is in the bible code. I believe that Titor changed the world by accident with his prediction of y2k. With that, everything change. The Future isn't written in Stone, its up to you to Decide.


Kinda makes all the talk of time travel nonsense whether it is true or not then doesnt it.



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by imitator
Your tactics are starting to be repetitious with no substance, statements like "go back and read through this thread." without providing any links is useless. Why not you give a brief explaination on this page, give me an assurance that you're really right.

The link is this thread. There are several sustained portions of this thread where well...everything has been discussed.
I have tried giving you explanations but you seem to have great difficulty understanding simple things.
If you really wanted to find the truth you would have no problems finding it.




Every single word from that link makes perfect sense, pay attention it's a very reliable source.

There is absolutely nothing right about that article, except that troops will be spending dwell time in Ft. Stewart. There are several LONG threads on ATS already about this. They will NOT be deployed in the streets anywhere and just about everything in that link is taken out of context. That is by NO MEANS a reliable source btw. A reliable source is a source that has a track record of being proven right and can back it's claims by facts. That fails at all.




I would never post BS.....

WOW. Biggest lie ever.
EVERYTHING you have posted so far in this thread, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR POSTS have been nothing but BS.


read the ArmyTimes

Yes, please do.


ArmyTimes: Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1 Ready to Carry Out "Crowd Control

Why are you giving out false titles?

as far as the correction

This is simply a lie.....They have a huge storage of lethal and nonlethal weapons there. These weapons are not there to be stored away... they are there to be used domestically.

You have any thing at all to back your ridiculous statement?

Yeah, didn't think so.

Look, what you want to be true and what you wish to be true is NOT the same as reality buddy. That's the bottom line.


Funny how you just simply ignore context and ignore important quotes.

“If we go in, we’re going in to help American citizens on American soil, to save lives, provide critical life support, help clear debris, restore normalcy and support whatever local agencies need us to do, so it’s kind of a different role,”

Meaning what? Meaning in any disaster, they will be directed by LOCAL authorities. They are not authorized nor ever will be to take command of anything domestic.

They reason they're doing this training, as stated in other articles, was in response to what they have seen overseas and to be used overseas.




You forgot K9 Units, flash bang, Stinger, Taser's and tear gas grenades. It's all still there and being used...

Says who?


The conflict will consume everyone in the US by 2012 and end in 2015 with a very short WWIII.

What does this have to do with anything?
Or the link you posted?


John Titor: You don’t really think the Marines are going to jump out of helicopters overseas with sticky goop, pepper spray and seizure lights, do you?

Exactly.
They use GUNS and BOMBS.

Titor is in a shotgun infantry right? So when they're attacking with shotguns, do you honestly think the army will be using pepper spray or tasers to fight back?

Get real man....
Enough of this fantasy crap.



sirbikesalot:

study time travel alot better and understand some things haven't taken place that is in the bible code. I believe that Titor changed the world by accident with his prediction of y2k. With that, everything change. The Future isn't written in Stone, its up to you to Decide.

1. Human time travel is not possible
2. There is NO evidence the "bible code" is correct on anything. They should have just stuck with the original prophecies in the bible.
3. No one's ever heard of Titor when he made that prediction. And if everything's changed then that means there won't be a civil war or anything else Titor predicted.
4. "The Future isn't written in Stone, its up to you to Decide." You are absolutely right. Try telling that to the Titorites though...



posted on Oct, 10 2008 @ 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird



ArmyTimes: Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1 Ready to Carry Out "Crowd Control

Why are you giving out false titles?



From the link:



So the headline read this: Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1

and inside the article read : They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control.

So whats with you ignoring things that go against your argument?

You would make a lousy debater in the fight club.



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