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Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
You all need to read Titor again.
The ONLY times he mentioned 2008 was when he stated the war would be on everyone's doorstep and the world as we once knew it was over. The war had gotten to the point of no return.
Technology is not gone in 2036 nor is it the private domain of �government� leaders. Computer printers just didn�t work very well on 12 volts and many people just got used to doing things the old way. After the war, the main problem was distribution. Can anyone tell me how many companies in the United States still manufacture bicycle tires today? Anyone who still has a bike in 2008 will find out.
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The bike thing he just mentioned, and the Olympics he said no more after 2004. We had them in 2006.
Funny how you guys are still pushing the dates back. How long will you keep this up. First it was 2004 2004 2004 2004, 2004 came and nothing. Then it was 2005 2005 2005 2005, 2005 came and nothing. Now it's 2008 2008 2008 2008, 2008 is here and still nothing. Next it will be 2012 2012 2012 2012, 2012 will come and still nothing. Guarantee it. Then it'll be 2015, then 2020, then 2036.... You guys won't give up will you?
Originally posted by LDragonFire
hmmm lets see We can't take pictures at bus stops or airports without drawing the attention or the police or DHS.
We have lost the protection from unwarranted search and seizure. It's ok for the government to snoop it's citizens, but not ok for us citizens to see what the government is doing.
You as a citizen can be labeled a enemy combatant by the president and arrested without due process and detained indefinitely without a trial and/or without representation.
The worst is that we are no longer given the Right to the truth in the MSM, we are only given the latest government approved message.
As for the rash of taser related deaths, we are no long given the right to due process, citizens are being executed on the spot for any crime.
Our rights for filing bankruptcy have been greatly curtailed.
Our rights for owning property have also been curtailed, if wal-mart or jiffy lube wants your home, they will get it.
What has the government stopped you from doing today that you could do freely in the past?
Originally posted by The Bear Man
I'd like to point out that 2012 has been used in well over the 50 years speculations i've had time to reach back to (not me im not that old, but its been bothering people I know for that long)
Originally posted by Vitchilo
TJW, seriously, this whole civil war thing, you didn't understand. Your ``interpretation`` doesn't make sense.
Let's see. JT said that the civil war started in 04-05. Ok. He said the shooting was common by 2012. That 08 was a year people knew their world was over.
Do you agree that if the civil war, as you interpret it, TJW, open shooting and waco events on the size of the Waco was to happen every month and worse everytime starting in 04-05, people would wake up BEFORE 08?
It would take 3-4 years of hundreds of americans civilians killed openly by the US government EVERY MONTH ON TV, to wake up people?
When titor defined civil war, what did you expect him to say? Something else than the dictionnary definition? I mean a civil war is armed groups against each others. What else did you expected him to say? Riots? Abuse of government? Is that a civil war? No, but from 04-05 it's starting...
So I assume you're saying that titor said the shooting started in 04-05
which doesn't make sense and I'm saying that it started between 08 and 2012, which makes more sense.
Why did he changed the date? 04-05? Because it doesn't matter that much. It's like WW2. Did it start in 39? 38? 23? 29? 42?
Crusade against ron paul supporters?
Originally posted by Roth Joint
There is a war on your belief system right now. There was a reason that Titor posted his messages on very popular message boards.
Many people HAVE woken up to the plan, the idea of 9/11 New World Order under the United Nations. This is not a fantasy. It's a reality as announced by Bush publicly and ONLY on these precise dates 09/11/1990 and 09/11/1991. VERIFY IT!
Yes, they ARE betting we want their security instead of our liberty.
Originally posted by Roth Joint
John Titor posted his messages on very popular message boards of which one was the very famous Art Bell message board. In this way he could be assured his messages would reach a larger public. And as we can observe, it worked!
The people are NOW waking up to this new world order plan that was announced publicly by Bush senior only on the dates 09/11/1990 and 09/11/1991 and which dates TJW refuses to do his research on.
Originally posted by Roth Joint
John Titor posted his messages on very popular message boards of which one was the very famous Art Bell message board:
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But, by the end of the year Bush stopped talking about a new world order. His advisers explained that he had dropped the phrase because he felt it suggested more enthusiasm for the changes sweeping the planet than he actually felt. He wanted, as an antidote to the uncertainties of the world, to stress the old verities of territorial integrity, national sovereignty and international stability. David Gergen suggested at the time that it was the recession of 1991-92 which finally killed the new world order idea within the White House. The economic downturn took a deeper psychological toll than expected while domestic politics were increasinly frustrated by paralysis, with the result that the United States toward the end of 1991 turned increasingly pessimistic, inward and nationalistic.
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
And you're right about that date, it was the 1991 date I was disputing. He made another speech on March 6. NOTHING after that. You know why? It's the economy stupid.
Originally posted by Roth Joint
Please TJW, stop the nonsense. Please take another look at one of these videos and listen carefully to what Bush senior is saying there. And ofcourse he was referring to Adam Weishaupt and Hitler's "New World Order."
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
Stop with what nonsense? I haven't said anything and certainly haven't disputed anything. I even gave you the correct date to when Bush spoke about a NWO.
I only said this belongs in another thread.
So what are you talking about?
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
We have a whole section for that...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Go post over there.
Wavering western support for Israel is what gives Israel's neighbors the confidence to attack. The last resort for a defensive Israel and its offensive Arab neighbors is to use weapons of mass destruction. In the grand scheme of things, the war in the Middle East is a part of what's to come, not the cause.
JT: "I might even decide to tell you about an earthquake in Peru but then people that would have died by chance will now live and vice versa."
Real disruptions in world events begin with the destabilization of the West as a result of degrading US foreign policy and consistency.
This becomes apparent around 2004 as civil unrest develops near the next presidential election.
Hundreds of groups organized protests, including United for Peace and Justice, a coalition of more than 800 anti-war and social justice groups, and International ANSWER. Over 1800 individuals were arrested by the authorities, a record for a political convention in the U.S.
The Jewish population in Israel is not prepared for a true offensive war. They are prepared for the ultimate defense.
Was a lot of the US 18-24 age group killed in the war because of a draft?
Yes.
JOHN TITOR
"The year 2008 was a general date by which time everyone will realize the world they thought they were living in was over."