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The American Civil War of 2005 as predicted by John Titor

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posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 11:00 PM
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The west has not collapsed yet

It has collapse to a certain point, wait till the economic crash, next year.


The US is not in a civil war

Not open-fighting.


The middle eastern countries are not shooting WMDs at each other

Yet, they are developping them.


Mad Cow disease is not a major epidemic

If you would have researched the Mad Cow disease, you would know that it takes 10 years to have the firsts visible signs. So if you eat meat with mad cow in it now, you'll only know it later.


No matter how hard Roth tries to spin it, George Bush is NOTHING like Lincoln.

JT never said that either, he said he tried to be like Lincoln and it didn't worked.


People aren't leaving cities for fear of conflicts

People are leaving the cities for fear of police state... not much today, but much more later i'm sure, unless the police state reverse.


The line between city and country is becoming more blurred not more defined

No. The police state is very visible in cities, not in the country so the division is right there.


Time travel is still not possible (if it's possible in the future and especially after a 10 year civil war and a nuclear war in which half the world is destroyed then it should be possible now right?)

Time travel is possible IMO, there's plenty of theories that support it, we'll have more information and possible breaktrought next year when the LHC comes online.

Nice try TJW.




posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by Vitchilo
It has collapse to a certain point, wait till the economic crash, next year.

It has not collapsed. It has grown in fact.

And what economic crash? The one that you and you alone are prediciting based on your gut feeling? That one?



Not open-fighting.

Not anything.


Yet, they are developping them.

We're talking about Titor's predictions


If you would have researched the Mad Cow disease, you would know that it takes 10 years to have the firsts visible signs. So if you eat meat with mad cow in it now, you'll only know it later.

Ok, and??
If Titor said it would be epidemic now, why would we have to wait?

Besides, even if it does take time for the any visible signs, mad cow is still highly detectable. If there was an outbreak, you'd know it...visible signs or not.



No matter how hard Roth tries to spin it, George Bush is NOTHING like Lincoln.

JT never said that either, he said he tried to be like Lincoln and it didn't worked.



People are leaving the cities for fear of police state...

No they're not.


not much today, but much more later i'm sure, unless the police state reverse.

What makes you so sure?
All the trends have been oposite.
Titor never mentioned any "police state reverse" btw as that doesn't even make sense...

(he never even mentioned police state)



No. The police state is very visible in cities

What cities?

Also, nowadays, where does the city end?? Where does the country begin??
As I said, it's becoming more of a blur



Time travel is possible IMO

What is your opinion based on? Titor?


there's plenty of theories that support it

Theories with way too many holes and NO facts.
That's the problem.

Even if time travel is possible, it'd most likely be with photons or maybe an atom. Sending something as complex as a human through time....that's laughable


we'll have more information and possible breaktrought next year when the LHC comes online.

Nice try TJW.

lol
Always pushing things up...
Next year this, next year that. How many years are you Titorites going to keep doing that?

Nice try Vit...


Edn

posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 12:29 AM
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A note on the mad cow disease i think your forgetting that the UK market for beef was nearly devastated because of this, there was a 10 year ban in the EU and was banned in 84 countries on UK beef which has only recently been lifted. Not to mention a crap load of cows had to be killed and disintegrated.



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 12:48 AM
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It has not collapsed. It has grown in fact.

And what economic crash? The one that you and you alone are prediciting based on your gut feeling? That one?


Yeah it has collapsed. The hate against the US government is higher than ever in the history. The economy is not doing well, all jobs are outsourced, the debt. Illegal immigration is higher than ever, the government even helps illegals immigrants. Ect... If you can't see that, it's your problem.



Not anything.

In the future, we could see things like tasers events and things like that as a civil war growing part. So not yet, but with the bigger picture we could.



We're talking about Titor's predictions

And your avoiding the facts. Hell, they can't use WMDs against each others if they don't have any!



Ok, and??
If Titor said it would be epidemic now, why would we have to wait?

Besides, even if it does take time for the any visible signs, mad cow is still highly detectable. If there was an outbreak, you'd know it...visible signs or not.

Titor never said anything about dates concerning the Mad Cow Disease, he just said it was yet to begin. And I already covered that, they cut the funding by 90% last year for mad cow disease detection. And if you think they would say there's an outbreak, you're illusional. The corporations would lost too many money and anyway the people affected by it will only be sick in 30 to 50 years at most.



JT never said that either, he said he tried to be like Lincoln and it didn't worked.


From JT:
The President or "leader" in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights.

Exactly what happened. He tried to hold the country together behind the war on terror, particulary Iraq, and as we see, it's not working. And of course, their policies are driving a large wedge into the Bill of Rights.



No they're not.

Not much but yes some are. Some are leaving the country, some think of leaving the country or leaving to the country side where police and surveillance is lesser. If it still goes this way, a hell lot of people one day will leave. Stop denying facts.



What makes you so sure?
All the trends have been oposite.
Titor never mentioned any "police state reverse" btw as that doesn't even make sense...

(he never even mentioned police state)

If the trend have been the opposite(I doubt) it's only because the only employ you can find is in the service sector, when the crash comes, they'll go back to the country's side.

And yes, titor mentionned a few times the police state, he didn't said ``police state`` but he described the caracteristics of one. Look for yourself.



What cities?

Also, nowadays, where does the city end?? Where does the country begin??
As I said, it's becoming more of a blur


Every cities! If you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exists. CCTV, microphones in CCTV, police being militarised since 2001, X-ray scanning entire neighborhoods, wiretapping, ect...

The country begin when there's a severe gap in terms in police and surveillance devices.



What is your opinion based on? Titor?

No, on theories and the will that it exists.



Theories with way too many holes and NO facts.
That's the problem.

Too many holes, no much holes. LHC and Ronald Mallet will bring the foundations of time travel with their little experiments.


Even if time travel is possible, it'd most likely be with photons or maybe an atom. Sending something as complex as a human through time....that's laughable


Yeah, like when you master time travel it's so much a big step. Or when you're in war or when you want to keep your superpower status, you need to push for hi-technologies, it's shouldn't be a big problem.



lol
Always pushing things up...
Next year this, next year that. How many years are you Titorites going to keep doing that?

Nice try Vit...

We'll see TJW, we'll see.

[edit on 28-11-2006 by Vitchilo]



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 03:09 AM
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TITOR said a lot about a different timeline though.



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 03:27 AM
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ThatsJustWeird
quote: The US is not in a civil war

Vitchilo
Not open-fighting.

ThatsJustWeird
Not anything.

Vitchilo
In the future, we could see things like tasers events and things like that as a civil war growing part. So not yet, but with the bigger picture we could.


ThatsJustWeird, is it possible you been sheep down to think the civil war is not brewing due to no media coverage? I thought you was keeping up with the civil conflicts on youtube? In the back of your mind your probably thinking, "2004-2005, hmmm.... could reflect the universal date of the civil war due to media blackouts."



Titor:
I don't remember a great deal about media coverage during the civil conflicts.

You know the first American civil war started with a shot, maybe this one started with a shock. Add more 'buzz' and it could steadily get worse, say by 2012.

There is plenty of "non-lethal" weapon systems in the works....

Titor:
15. I'm not aware of any "mind control" devices being used on you now. However,
there are a great many "non lethal" weapon systems in development that turn out
to be quite lethal.




www.policeops.com...

Crowd Control Tasers Mats
Crowd Control Tasers Barricades
Riot/SWAT Charged Phaser Shields™
Phaser Baton
Phaser Charged Body Armor
K-9 Tasers Vest™ (US Patent 6272781)
The K-9 handler can remotely trigger the Taser Vest placed on the outside of the K-9 Bullet Proof Vests or combined with these Vests to incapacitate the suspect if the Dog gets into danger or the suspect won't comply. Insulators near edges of Vest protect the Dog.





A torture device that Federal Police use now, the TASER X26
comes with CD-ROM, Digital Power Magazine and whopping 26 Watts of T-Wave-producing power.......
If you get hit by this, it will make you look like




TJW, you know Roth could be right about the Taser's.....



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 03:34 AM
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I don't remember a great deal about media coverage during the civil conflicts.


Maybe he don't remember a great deal because there wasn't a great deal of coverage? Maybe due to a media blackout? Duh!

Great post XPhiles.

[edit on 28-11-2006 by Vitchilo]



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird

Originally posted by Roth Joint
You sound like a teenager thatsjustweird, but yes John Titor was probably a historian (or at least interested in history) and yes he said the second US Civil War would start in 2004/2005 from his viewpoint.

Why do you keep saying from his viewpoint?
He's from the future, meaning he's been through it already. If he stated something will happen at such and such a time, then by the time we get to it, we should be seeing the same things.

Unless you believe Titor was wrong, which I'm starting to get a sense from you...

Titor is right on track. One only has to look at the recent decisions made by this Administration to see how accurate Titor ‘predicted’ the events. Titor must have had his own personal reasons to describe the second US Civil War as he did. From his viewpoint that war started in 2004/2005. But it’s crystal clear he knew it wouldn’t escalate that much in the sense of fighting until around 2008. Let’s take a closer look at some of his very interesting quotes:

”The President or "leader" in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. The President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power base.”

If Titor believed there would be fighting in the US around 2005, he wouldn’t have said the above. Titor hinted at the great divide (read: hold the country together) we find ourselves in and how the decisions (read: policies) of the Administration around that time would only strip people of their hard earned constitutional freedoms (read: larger wedge into the Bill of Rights).

It is a very clear description of the behaviours of our present Administration and apparently from Titor’s point of view, a very important part of the second US Civil War that thus started in 2004 (read: second Bush Administration term) and/or 2005 (read: aggressive decisions of that Administration and not supporting their people)

Then Titor proceeds by showing us the situation in 2009 and a “power base” that would have been created by then. Apparently fighting is now happening, otherwise there would be no need for the President in 2009 to keep that “power base.”

Why is Titor comparing the situation in 2005 with the situation in 2009? Because the President in 2005 apparently created that “power base” in Titor’s point of view. So Titor clearly shows how things were put in motion in 2005 (read: no fighting yet) and how it would be necessary to defend that “power base” in 2009 (read: fighting)

Furthermore, Titor is very accurate in describing who will be used to guarantee that “power base” and during which time period this will happen:

From the age of 8 to 12 [starting from 2006 to 2010], we lived away from the cities and spent most of our time in a farm community with other families avoiding conflict with the federal police and National Guard. By that time [by 2010], it was pretty clear that we were not going back to what we had and the division between the "cities" and the "country" was well defined.

Titor states here that starting from 2006 to 2010 they lived away from the cities avoiding conflict with the federal police and National Guard. So during that time period [2006-2010] we will see National Guard troops playing a more prominent role.

It is very interesting to see that exactly in this year 2006 (October 17), the H.R. 5122 2007's National Defense Authorization Act was signed into law. This will make it very easy for the President to quickly send out the National Guard in Federal Service.

Other things that are put in motion starting from 2006: on September 30 the Department of Homeland Security awarded the Secure Border Initiative Network (SBInet), an "indefinite delivery, indefinite quantity (IDIQ) contract” estimated at $2.5 billion to build a seamless web of new surveillance technology and sensors with real time communications systems for Customs and Border Protection (CBP). Included in the plan are "funds for additional personnel, vehicles and physical infrastructure for fencing, and virtual fencing for U.S. borders."

Time will tell us how this project will evolve into what Titor calls a “division between the "cities" and the "country"”……. One thing for sure, by 2010 that division will be “well defined”…. It must have something to do with that “power base” and the upcoming elections in 2008…..



Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird

Originally posted by Roth Joint
But no, he did not say it would start with Waco type events, though they would certainly be a part of that war

English 101 buddy. Sentences in the same paragraph generally support each other.
YOU'RE saying that he didn't say that, because you're trying to make your views fit.
He stated that the war will start in 2004, the VERY NEXT sentence he states how it will be.

The war will start in 2004. I would describe it as waco events that steadily get worse.

Why do you assume the two sentences are unrelated??

The two sentences are indeed related, the war starts in 2004 and that war can be described as “having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse”….. Nothing about Waco type events beginning in 2004….just a description of that war……the Waco type events can just as well start in 2008…..and that makes very much sense to me when taking Titor’s other statements (see above) in consideration.



Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird

Originally posted by Roth Joint
….. the part he most certainly remembered when looking back on that war with his memory from 2036…..

Again, he's not looking at this from his memory only. You keep saying that, again, to justify your views

JT about the start of the war:

I remember the exact date. When it comes, it will not be a surprise.


Just another example of how you are twisting Titor’s words. Titor was answering a question about the Nuclear War and not the second US Civil War:

February 13, 2001 10:51
Question: What is the specific Date that the Nuclear war starts? If you can't remember the exact date, could you put the month at least? An estimate!
John Titor: “I remember the exact date. When it comes, it will not be a surprise.”

AND
November 21, 2000 10:41
”I know exactly where I was and every detail of the exact moment the first nuclear warheads began falling on Jacksonville.”

AND
February 15, 2001 17:06
“Suggesting there is a war coming is a bit different than saying avoid Washington DC at 3:45 AM on March 12, 2015.”

The rest of your post is just plain rubbish and a waste of time to go over it.



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 11:48 AM
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Would anyone consider The police busting down your door and gunning down an innocent old lady, than go to a known informant and ask him to lie to "cover their asses" a Waco-type event?

92 Year Old Woman Goes Out Shooting When Cops Kick Down the Door(Update)



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 01:16 PM
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X and vit, if you can't hide a civil war in third world countries what makes you think you can even remotely hide one in a country like the US.

Get real...




Finally, some decent answers from Roth!

Originally posted by Roth Joint
Titor is right on track. One only has to look at the recent decisions made by this Administration to see how accurate Titor ‘predicted’ the events. Titor must have had his own personal reasons to describe the second US Civil War as he did.

Yeah, he lived through it



From his viewpoint that war started in 2004/2005. But it’s crystal clear he knew it wouldn’t escalate that much in the sense of fighting until around 2008.

Again with the "viewpoint"
From history (remember he's from the future) the war started in 2004.

He said it would steadily get worse and be at everyone's doorstep by 2008.
It's 2007 in a few weeks.
What's taking so long?


Let’s take a closer look at some of his very interesting quotes:

”The President or "leader" in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. The President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power base.”

If Titor believed there would be fighting in the US around 2005, he wouldn’t have said the above.

What? That doesn't make sense.
The only reason why the president would try to hold the country together is because there IS fighting. If you're trying to hold something together that means it's been torn apart.
By trying to stop the fighting and division they passed laws that drove a bigger wedge which would lead to even more division and more fighting.



Titor hinted at the great divide (read: hold the country together) we find ourselves in and how the decisions (read: policies) of the Administration around that time would only strip people of their hard earned constitutional freedoms (read: larger wedge into the Bill of Rights).

This country has never been in complete agreement on ANYTHING. Presidents usually don't care and continue to do what their party wants. If this president Titor speaks of is trying to hold the country together, that means it must be bad.


It is a very clear description of the behaviours of our present Administration and apparently from Titor’s point of view

lol, hardly.
Name one thing Bush has done to try to hold this country together?


Then Titor proceeds by showing us the situation in 2009 and a “power base” that would have been created by then. Apparently fighting is now happening, otherwise there would be no need for the President in 2009 to keep that “power base.”

Do you know what power base means?
The president here is just trying to hold on to power. It's obvious the president here is becoming less and less of a player as the country deepens into war.


Why is Titor comparing the situation in 2005 with the situation in 2009?

lol, because those are the years in which the presidents take office. It would only make sense to use those years.


From the age of 8 to 12 [starting from 2006 to 2010], we lived away from the cities and spent most of our time in a farm community with other families avoiding conflict with the federal police and National Guard. By that time [by 2010], it was pretty clear that we were not going back to what we had and the division between the "cities" and the "country" was well defined.

Titor states here that starting from 2006 to 2010 they lived away from the cities avoiding conflict with the federal police and National Guard. So during that time period [2006-2010] we will see National Guard troops playing a more prominent role.

We would see conflicts with the national guard.
It's 2007
No national guard. No division between city and country.


It is very interesting to see that exactly in this year 2006 (October 17), the H.R. 5122 2007's National Defense Authorization Act was signed into law. This will make it very easy for the President to quickly send out the National Guard in Federal Service.

We've been through this before. Read the law.


Other things that are put in motion starting from 2006: on September 30 the Department of Homeland Security awarded the Secure Border Initiative Network (SBInet), an "indefinite delivery, indefinite quantity (IDIQ) contract” estimated at $2.5 billion to build a seamless web of new surveillance technology and sensors with real time communications systems for Customs and Border Protection (CBP). Included in the plan are "funds for additional personnel, vehicles and physical infrastructure for fencing, and virtual fencing for U.S. borders."

Time will tell us how this project will evolve into what Titor calls a “division between the "cities" and the "country"”……

lol
That's a real stretch Roth, even for you.


The two sentences are indeed related, the war starts in 2004 and that war can be described as “having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse”….. Nothing about Waco type events beginning in 2004….just a description of that war……

And if that war starts in 2004, then that would mean the Waco type events would start in 2004.
War = waco type events

War = 2004

2004 = waco type events




With the last part, glad to see you're paying attention!

I just did EXACTLY what you all have been doing this whole thread. Funny how you can saw when I did it, but refuse to see when you and your buddies are doing that. Don't you find that strange?



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 01:59 PM
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How do you get so into someone who in your own words "surfaced on the internet claiming that he was a time traveller from the year 2036"
The man is a grade one conman or nut or both in my opinion. Where is the proof by the way, the pictures & diagrams Dude ?



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
X and vit, if you can't hide a civil war in third world countries what makes you think you can even remotely hide one in a country like the US.

Get real..


Most 3rd world countries don't have the capacity to receive or contain information in which controls the media like the US. Propaganda from elite groups and corporate globalism is very real, they even cause civil war in 3rd world countries as well.

The mass media is the battle line of corporate global control.

Come on now TJW, you know the news can be manipulated and suppressed in this country, you have to start with the small stuff like the 92 Year Old Woman going out in a blaze of glory or the student shot with Taser by UCPD. Most incidents like this doesn't even make it to our ears. Those little Waco type events that we talked about a few pages back are being suppressed all the time.

Admit it TJW, the government has learned from their past and now use media as their weapon.

Wouldn't you want to know that the Federal Empire is waging war against you, destroying you from within?

Could it be America is full of sheep?

Titor:
Perhaps I should let you all in on a little secret. No one likes you in the future. This
time period is looked at as being full of lazy, self-centered, civically ignorant
sheep. Perhaps you should be less concerned about me and more concerned
about that.



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by Vitchilo
Yeah it has collapsed. The hate against the US government is higher than ever in the history. The economy is not doing well, all jobs are outsourced, the debt. Illegal immigration is higher than ever, the government even helps illegals immigrants. Ect... If you can't see that, it's your problem.

What does any of this have to do with the west collapsing???
1. The hate against the Gov has been been this high PLENTY of times. Since the founding of this country.
2. The economy is doing great
3. The DISCUSSION on illegal immigration is higher than ever

4. Again, what does this have to do with the West and it's collapse???



In the future, we could see things like tasers events and things like that as a civil war growing part. So not yet, but with the bigger picture we could.

I can guarentee you tasers will not trigger or be a part of any civil war.
Don't fall into Roth's trap. That is one of the more ridiculous notions put forth in this thread.
1. The number of people who die from tasers is EXTREMELY low for it's usage.
2. Tens of THOUSANDS of more people are and have been killed by guns over the past 150 years. Why no civil war?
If there's no civil war over guns then to even suggest Americans will start killing each other because of tasers is beyond ridiculous.




Not much but yes some are. Some are leaving the country, some think of leaving the country or leaving to the country side where police and surveillance is lesser. If it still goes this way, a hell lot of people one day will leave. Stop denying facts.

What facts?
The fact that many cities are be revitalized and people are moving back into the city? That fact?
No I'm not denying that at all!

I got my info from the Census and looked at real life stats. Where did you get your info from? Seeing as you don't even live in the US, I'm extremely curious to know where you heard that from?



If the trend have been the opposite(I doubt) it's only because the only employ you can find is in the service sector, when the crash comes, they'll go back to the country's side.

Newflash:
There's no country side to go to!

If there's an economic crash, the even more people will move INTO the city. That's where all the jobs will be. Look at history buddy.
What are you going to do in the country?? Farm? LMAO! This is the 21st century. A) There isn't and wouldn't be enough farmland B) unless you own a huge farm or multiple farms, you wouldn't be able to make a living.



Yeah, like when you master time travel it's so much a big step.

This statement is proof you have no clue as to what you're talking about. Or what would be involved to even think about making time travel possible.


Or when you're in war or when you want to keep your superpower status, you need to push for hi-technologies, it's shouldn't be a big problem.

This isn't just some war
1. This is a civil war
2. The civil war is followed by a nuclear war
All of which completely devestates this country and kills off half the population. I can't imagine someone actually wasting their time and all that money trying to come up with time travel when they can't even drink clean water or breathe clean air. Someone would have to be a complete idiot to use all those resources and energy trying to prove something that wouldn't even be useful instead of rebuilding.
(more on all of this later)



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 07:00 PM
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ok im glad you think by me calling you an immature fool, makes me look stupid. because as you try to burn ppl for not reading posts, you sure didnt read mine very well.

i stated and i quote


Your unwilling to accept the possiblity that some ppl dont eat everything their feed.


and what i meant by that is we are not swayed by the absence/manipulation of evidence(meaning FOXnews and where ever you get your happytime news).

thats fine that you missed a word, but as you can tell that 1 word changed the point.

--further more a lot of what Titor claimed has come to pass and/are occuring.
heres some you should look at


Real disruptions in world events begin with the destabilization of the West as a result of degrading US foreign policy and consistency.


economic crash


Q. Was a lot of the US 18-24 age group killed in the war because of a draft?
John: Yes.


Draft


Q. Will you readily be able to identify the enemy?
John: They will be the ones arresting and holding people without due process.


legal rights

and minor predictions like the peru earthquake, or 100,000 ppl dieing

ok time travel is not impossible, the major contributor in access to time is gravity. theoretically if you can create a large distortion with gravity(why gravity because it owns all) and spin this distortion in the correct direction you could travel backward through time. also with the new theory of dual event horizons being possible, the task is much easier and seemingly more stable.

lastly its not hard to hide any event that occurs , givin you have the something to distract the masses with. take your pick of all the meaningless and foolish things occurring these past view years.

i know your not going to agree with anything me or anyone else has/going to tell you. but if you take the time to search the current times we are in and corroborate it with Titors story you may find similarities.

oh 1 last thing its 2006 right now not 2007, the fact that your taking liberties with this date and not of others is PRICELESS..........

[edit on 28-11-2006 by Glyph_D]



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 10:38 PM
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Another freedom may soon be under attack.
The excuse is terrorism, but I maintain it's NOT terrorism they fear as much as it's the fact that they cannot hide their actions very well from those who have the internet.

Gingrich raises alarm at event honoring those who stand up for freedom of speech

MANCHESTER – Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich yesterday said the country will be forced to reexamine freedom of speech to meet the threat of terrorism.

Gingrich, speaking at a Manchester awards banquet, said a "different set of rules" may be needed to reduce terrorists' ability to use the Internet and free speech to recruit and get out their message.

"We need to get ahead of the curve before we actually lose a city, which I think could happen in the next decade," said Gingrich, a Republican who helped engineer the GOP's takeover of Congress in 1994.

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Lose a city?

We already did...it was called New Orleans.

On edit, scroll down.
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posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by Glyph_D
ok im glad you think by me calling you an immature fool, makes me look stupid. because as you try to burn ppl for not reading posts, you sure didnt read mine very well.

i stated and i quote


economic crash

lol
People have been predicting an economic crash since....well....I can't recall a time when people haven't been predicting an economic crash! Can you?
Fortunately for us, real factors determine what happens with the economy, not people's predictions



Draft

lol
I can guarentee you there won't be a draft. If he votes for his own bill I'd be surprised. lol
They've been doing this for years.


legal rights

I can almost guarentee you all the stuff Bush has done will be looked over and probably overturned in the next couple years now that the dems have taken over and especially if they win the White House.


and minor predictions like the peru earthquake

Titor predicted a Peru earthquake?? This is news to me. Got his quote???
He said he wouldn't predict stuff like that, so this really surprises me. How did I miss that?


or 100,000 ppl dieing

He didn't predict 100,000 people dying. Also, there have been several events in which 100,000 people have died since Titor. How do you know which one he was talking about??


ok time travel is not impossible, the major contributor in access to time is gravity. theoretically if you can create a large distortion with gravity(why gravity because it owns all) and spin this distortion in the correct direction you could travel backward through time. also with the new theory of dual event horizons being possible, the task is much easier and seemingly more stable.

lol
The resources and energy that would be needed to do that and send an actual human being through time does not exsist. Even if it did, this is still all theory.


lastly its not hard to hide any event that occurs , givin you have the something to distract the masses with. take your pick of all the meaningless and foolish things occurring these past view years.

It's extremely hard to hide events, especially nowadays with the level of access of information available to everyone (how many police have been caught in the act of doing something in the past couple weeks because of camera phones?).
The CIA can't even hide the names of it's spies

To suggest a Civil War could be hiden is beyond ridiculous.


oh 1 last thing its 2006 right now not 2007, the fact that your taking liberties with this date and not of others is PRICELESS..........

Oh wow, a whole month left...


Since you want to be technical....it's been FY 2007 for a couple months now

Oh wait. That's one month 29 days. (before you correct me in saying a "couple" of months)



posted on Nov, 29 2006 @ 01:29 AM
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The most rediculous aspect of all of John's claims is that Australia will repel an invasion from China.

Now whats so rediculous about that is Australia has No nuclear weapons, no Carriers, 3 operational ( Deisel Powered ) Subs about 200 working Jet Fighers and no more than 50 000 troops. The military aged Pop. for draft is just a little under 5 million ( CIA Fact book ) so how is it going to compete with a behemouth like china ?

We let them come in and bore them to death with League I guess
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posted on Nov, 29 2006 @ 03:09 AM
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Originally posted by mazzroth
The most rediculous aspect of all of John's claims is that Australia will repel an invasion from China.

Now whats so rediculous about that is Australia has No nuclear weapons, no Carriers, 3 operational ( Deisel Powered ) Subs about 200 working Jet Fighers and no more than 50 000 troops. The military aged Pop. for draft is just a little under 5 million ( CIA Fact book ) so how is it going to compete with a behemouth like china ?

We let them come in and bore them to death with League I guess
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War is war anything can happen, "Remember the Alamo" Santa Anna's force was suddenly overwhelmed and destroyed by a smaller Texan force at San Jacinto.

You know what is really ridiculous, that an Australian man has control over several news media outlets in America.

Rupert Murdoch





Who is Rupert Murdoch?
Consider Murdoch's empire: According to Businessweek, "his satellites deliver TV programs in five continents, all but dominating Britain, Italy, and wide swaths of Asia and the Middle East. He publishes 175 newspapers, including the New York Post and The Times of London. In the U.S., he owns the Twentieth Century Fox Studio, Fox Network......


What is League I lol.... is that soccer.



posted on Nov, 29 2006 @ 03:16 AM
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League is a version of rugby americanised with 5 goes at getting to the touch line but without all the armour the yanks wear.

As for Murdoch being an Aussie he is actually a British National who migrated to Australia, setup a media empire moved to the US and got US citizenship.

PS: Ive heard he is backing Hilary in 08 with large sums of cash.



posted on Nov, 29 2006 @ 03:45 AM
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Ah! rugby... I never seen the game played, but if it's boring will certainly never watch it lol.

So I'm guessing Murdoch is going for Global citizenship
I know the US allows for dual nationality with some countries, dunno about Australia though.

Murdoch is an Australian-born billionaire.... He was born in Australia and is of Scottish ancestry.



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