The American Civil War of 2005 as predicted by John Titor

Originally posted by Roth Joint
ICE, ICE Baby & The National Guard……nothing to worry about?….

John Titor: “From the age of 8 to 12 [2006-2010], we lived away from the cities and spent most of our time in a farm community with other families avoiding conflict with the federal police and National Guard. By that time, it was pretty clear that we were not going back to what we had and the division between the "cities" and the "country" was well defined”………..



They are also changing the odds for illegal immigrants who until recently ran virtually no risk of being caught after they establish

I think you just got too much carried away Roth. Where else can you find a phrase implicating Tiror as an illegal immigrant? => Mexican mostly. OK you are an extreme left libertarian and Titor must be an ex Hippie but even him doesn’t say such thing.
The answer to Titor is simple if this guy( I’ve searched about him and since he is involved in the so called paranormal research and I can’t find a reason for him to lie) who received the alleged fax in the 90’s accepts that he indeed received it before 2000 Titor was just an y2k activist.
Anyway I am through with this Titor stuff, since everybody wants to pass his own political agenda and nobody wants to really talk about it. Good luck to all American European brothers when the rich dinner is over.
See you in Valhalla.
Βαν με νοου Πολιτικαλ κορεκτ βασταρδς

Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
No one knows W2H....
Roth won't answer us when we ask him.

In the real world Al Gore and the military go together like snow and the Sahara desert, but apparently in Roth's world Al Gore is some sort of military man.

Perhaps you should add the word "line" to "Roth's world".....

What I meant with my referral to “military man” means Al Gore will be marching straight to his new life as President of the United States, serving his God and his country....whatever it takes......even if he should change the Sahara into Snow-World.............Global Warming strikes again...........just wait and see what happens.....

Originally posted by Dorian_gr

Originally posted by Roth Joint
ICE, ICE Baby & The National Guard……nothing to worry about?….

John Titor: “From the age of 8 to 12 [2006-2010], we lived away from the cities and spent most of our time in a farm community with other families avoiding conflict with the federal police and National Guard. By that time, it was pretty clear that we were not going back to what we had and the division between the "cities" and the "country" was well defined”………..

They are also changing the odds for illegal immigrants who until recently ran virtually no risk of being caught after they establish

I think you just got too much carried away Roth. Where else can you find a phrase implicating Tiror as an illegal immigrant? => Mexican mostly. OK you are an extreme left libertarian and Titor must be an ex Hippie but even him doesn’t say such thing.

I have no political preference......at least Titor called himself a "centrist".....
What do you think will happen if 'ICE' gets a bit too much carried away?.......

Originally posted by Dorian_gr
The answer to Titor is simple if this guy( I’ve searched about him and since he is involved in the so called paranormal research and I can’t find a reason for him to lie) who received the alleged fax in the 90’s accepts that he indeed received it before 2000 Titor was just an y2k activist.

...or perhaps he was just a gigolo.....

Originally posted by Dorian_gr
Anyway I am through with this Titor stuff, since everybody wants to pass his own political agenda and nobody wants to really talk about it. Good luck to all American European brothers when the rich dinner is over.
See you in Valhalla.
Βαν με νοου Πολιτικαλ κορεκτ βασταρδς

Astalavista Baby....... meanwhile the Middle East War/Crisis isn't over yet.... do you really think Hizbollah will disarm?......

hey roth, since you're quite the internet researcher, can you dig up;

1) 1 legitimate physicist or reputable scientist who backs JT specifically ?

2) 31 waco like events that the media covered like elian gonzales or the original waco ?

3) Cerns LHC collider going online in 2001 ?


txs

roth would you by chance be talking about the ICE emergency system?

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
1) 1 legitimate physicist or reputable scientist who backs JT specifically ?

Already answered in previous posts. Strike 1.

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
2) 31 waco like events that the media covered like elian gonzales or the original waco ?

Already answered in previous posts. Strike 2.

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
3) Cerns LHC collider going online in 2001 ?

Already answered in previous posts. Strike 3.

3 strikes...your out! Hey, this is easy... and fun too!

Roth, could you elaborate about ICE? Thanks.

Few things from JT.com

Before John left our time in 2001, he warned us about a "lie" that would change our life in 2005. Is this it? Is this under-the-table agreement between Mexico, the US and Canada to form a "North American Union" the lie John spoke of? In the agreement, the plan will take shape in our country by 2010. What will this do to our constitution? How will it effect business in the US? How do they plan to stop terror attacks? Why hasn't Congress voted on this?


Notice the date John told us Spanish was a lot more popular in Texas. It's exactly four years from the day when the agreement was signed by President Bush in Waco Texas.

www.spp.gov This North America Union will end the US, Canada and Mexico sovereignties, people who thought that Bush was a conservative will now understand that it's not the case and that the US government is working against us.

3/24/01 - Q: One last question, how did Texas fare during the war?
JOHN: Texas is still there but Spanish is a lot more popular.

Civil War?

Hazleton illegals part of new civil war
HAZLETON - The United States, to paraphrase Lincoln, is in the midst of a great civil war.

So far, no shooting, but you never can tell.

In Lincoln's time, a key issue was slavery. In our time, it's illegal immigration.

Cities such as San Francisco, Los Angeles and Chicago have declared themselves sanctuaries for illegals and refuse to enforce federal immigration laws. Philadelphia Police Commissioner Sylvester Johnson last week said his cash-strapped department doesn't have the resources to chase undocumented workers. Other cities have promised to crack down on undocumented workers and enforce immigration laws when the federal government won't.

It looks like a civil war.
Link

About the science part of time travel. (for SHP and TJW)

ROTATING BLACK HOLE WITH TWO EVEN HORIZONS SPITS OBJECTS INTO PARALLEL UNIVERSE?

The outermost edge of a black hole is the event horizon. That's the only definite part of a black hole. Size varies greatly among black holes, with smaller ones causing more distortion of space-time; space-time would have to wrap itself more tightly around a smaller one to close it off. A rotating black hole has two even horizons.

Inside the first event horizon, it is just like a non-rotating black hole (the rotation, by the way, is from the rotation of the star before it collapses): gravity pulling you in faster and faster. But when you hit the second event horizon, it's like the eye of a storm: There is no singularity, and space-time seems to return to normal.

At that point you hit anti-gravity after the second event horizon. So you would be spit right back out. But interestingly you will not come back to the same universe. You will end up in a parallel universe.

Link

A noted professor agree with JT. (again for SHP and TJW)

PROFESSOR PREDICTS HUMAN TIME TRAVEL THIS CENTURY


With a brilliant idea and equations based on Einstein’s relativity theories, Ronald Mallett from the University of Connecticut has devised an experiment to observe a time traveling neutron in a circulating light beam. While his team still needs funding for the project, Mallett calculates that the possibility of time travel using this method could be verified within a decade.


“The Grandfather Paradox [where you go back in time and kill your grandfather] is not an issue,” said Mallett. “In a sense, time travel means that you’re traveling both in time and into other universes. If you go back into the past, you’ll go into another universe. As soon as you arrive at the past, you’re making a choice and there’ll be a split. Our universe will not be affected by what you do in your visit to the past.”

Link
Time travel by 2016 His interest are general relativity and gravitation, black holes, relativistic astrophysics, and quantum cosmology.

JT said: "The major physics break through for controlled gravity distortion does happen at CERN in your future. Heck, we haven't even touched on 'Z' field compression yet."

He also said: "The 'machine' with the energy to do it will come on-line very soon. The 'method' for doing it has already been 'mostly' perfected in the Z machine at the National lab in New Mexico. "

Here's the Z machine! Link 1
Link 2


[edit on 17-8-2006 by Vitchilo]

WONDER secret WEAPON Why does the OICW get into application so far ? it is just a secret weapon I invented, the secret weapon is the terminator of the OICW.

roth, you can't hide from the glaring holes in the story. probably because no real scientist can read his posts without laughing, and there haven't been any waco events since 2004, and the cern LHC collider ( which the delorean needs to TT ) hasn't come on line yet.

Have you heeded the intrepid time travellers advice about the pending war ?

if yes, kindly provide a run down on the steps you've taken, if no, please explain why not

Originally posted by grimreaper797
roth would you by chance be talking about the ICE emergency system?

Originally posted by Vitchilo
Roth, could you elaborate about ICE? Thanks.

'ICE' is likely a part of the "federal police" Titor emphasized.... and what do you know...they are working hand in hand with the National Guard... yep....
www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 18-8-2006 by Roth Joint]

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
roth, you can't hide from the glaring holes in the story. probably because no real scientist can read his posts without laughing, and there haven't been any waco events since 2004, and the cern LHC collider ( which the delorean needs to TT ) hasn't come on line yet.

Have you heeded the intrepid time travellers advice about the pending war ?

if yes, kindly provide a run down on the steps you've taken, if no, please explain why not

Please stop your repeated BS Syrinx.....all is discussed and explained in previous posts...... I am getting bored..... explain why you can't come up with something really new and interesting and explain why.... in detail.....

hey roth,
your run around is almost as finely tuned as titors...hmmmm....he liked to answer questions with a question, excellent techniquw when you are full of it


I just think its interesting all the believers haven't taken JT's advice

maybe you just like a good argument ?

the alternative isn't very flattering


here's a (relatively) new topic, his manner of speech, as it were. Wouldn't a person from 2036 use slang or terms we are not familiar with ? Why does his manner of speaking match our time ?

Lebanese forces beat back Isreali Commando Offensive

Things aren't looking too good for Isreali forces, offensively at least. Its funny how the Lebanese army can't handle fighting Hezzbollah forces, but can beat back some of the best of the IDF.

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
hey roth,
your run around is almost as finely tuned as titors...hmmmm....he liked to answer questions with a question, excellent techniquw when you are full of it

Wouldn't a person from 2036 use slang or terms we are not familiar with ? Why does his manner of speaking match our time ?

After preparing yourself, how would you approach a person or group of people in 1970? How would you talk with them? Would you find any reason to use slang or terms they are not familiair with? Why would you use it if they wouldn't understand you?.......

Originally posted by modese7en
Lebanese forces beat back Isreali Commando Offensive

Things aren't looking too good for Isreali forces, offensively at least. Its funny how the Lebanese army can't handle fighting Hezzbollah forces, but can beat back some of the best of the IDF.

Don't worry, they are prepared for the "ultimate defense".......

How far do you think the arm of the federal ICE special police agents will reach in our very near future….? How much of a moral objective will this become…?

John Titor warns: “From the age of 8 to 12 (2006 to 2010), we lived away from the cities and spent most of our time in a farm community with other families avoiding conflict with the federal police and National Guard. By that time, it was pretty clear that we were not going back to what we had and the division between the "cities" and the "country" was well defined.”

news.enquirer.com.../20060908/NEWS01/609080384/1077
Fairfield buffet owner indicted
Man faces charges of facilitating illegal immigration

The owner of a Chinese restaurant in Fairfield transported and harbored illegal immigrants who worked for him, a federal grand jury alleged Thursday. Jiang, the owner of Bee's Buffet, could be sentenced to more than 30 years in prison if convicted. Federal authorities have said he will be deported after serving any sentence.

The government also is demanding Jiang forfeit two pieces of real estate he owns, his 2004 Nissan Titan and nearly $300,000 in cash found at his home and in a safe deposit box.

Jiang's lawyer, Hal Arenstein, said his client will plead not guilty when arraigned next week in U.S. District Court in Cincinnati. Arenstein said the cash seized from Jiang is profit from running his restaurant. "He works hard for it," Arenstein said. "He's been working in restaurants since the 1990s. He's a hard-working guy."

"No matter how large or how small the company, ICE has no tolerance for individuals who use illegal aliens in their workplace," said Brian Moskowitz, special agent in charge of the ICE office of investigations in Detroit.

How far do you think the arm of the Government may reach now or in our very near future….? How much of a moral objective will this become…?

John Titor warns: “Do you really think your government is telling you the truth? While you sit by and watch your Constitution being torn away from you…….”
Q: Will you readily be able to identify the enemy? JT: “They will be the ones arresting and holding people without due process.”

www.radionetherlands.nl...
Bush acknowledges existence of secret prisons
07-09-2006
On Wednesday US President George W. Bush spoke openly for the first time about secret prisons where the CIA has held and interrogated key terrorist suspects. He said these suspects had recently been transferred to the Guantanamo Bay detention centre. Now Mr Bush wants the US Congress to give him the power to have the suspects tried by military tribunals. The tribunals were declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in Washington during the summer.

mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp...
Bush comments on secret prisons confirms fears about war on terror, critics say
SYDNEY, Australia -- Critics from around the world on Thursday dismissed U.S. President George W. Bush's defense of using secret CIA prisons overseas to detain terrorist suspects as tacit approval of torture, and demanded they be shut down immediately.

They said Bush's acknowledgment of the program and justification of tough interrogation measures vindicated the worst fears that Washington had gone way too far in the pursuit of its war on terror.

"President Bush's speech was a full-throated defense of the CIA's detention program," Kenneth Roth, executive director of New York-based Human Rights Watch said in a statement. "Although the president adamantly denied that the U.S. government uses torture, the United States has used practices such as waterboarding that can only be called torture."

Lawmakers at the European Parliament, meanwhile, demanded the U.S. give the locations of the secret detention facilities.

[edit on 8-9-2006 by Roth Joint]

Exactly Roth Joint. At least JT was right about the police state coming VERY FAST.
Here's another thing... I said this law to my friends and one said that if he EVER be on this list for nothing, meaning losing his job and family/friends, he would kill those who pass this law. Those law aren't that ``bad`` JUST when they don't touch you personally. When they does, it's a very bad nightmare.

www.toledoblade.com.../20060829/NEWS24/608290360/-1/NEWS

SEX OFFENDERS
Plan gains to publicly identify accused
Ohio panel backs registry proposal

BLADE COLUMBUS BUREAU

COLUMBUS - An Ohio legislative panel yesterday rubber-stamped an unprecedented process that would allow sex offenders to be publicly identified and tracked even if they've never been charged with a crime.

No one in attendance voiced opposition to rules submitted by Attorney General Jim Petro's office to the Joint Committee on Agency Rule Review, consisting of members of the Ohio House and Senate.

The committee's decision not to interfere with the rules puts Ohio in a position to become the first state to test a "civil registry."

The concept was offered by Roman Catholic bishops as an alternative to opening a one-time window for the filing of civil lawsuits alleging child sexual abuse that occurred as long as 35 years ago.

A recently enacted law allows county prosecutors, the state attorney general, or, as a last resort, alleged victims to ask judges to civilly declare someone to be a sex offender even when there has been no criminal verdict or successful lawsuit.

The rules spell out how the untried process would work. It would largely treat a person placed on the civil registry the same way a convicted sex offender is treated under Ohio's so-called Megan's Law.

The person's name, address, and photograph would be placed on a new Internet database and the person would be subjected to the same registration and community notification requirements and restrictions on where he could live.

A civilly declared offender, however, could petition the court to have the person's name removed from the new list after six years if there have been no new problems and the judge believes the person is unlikely to abuse again.

The attorney general's office said it continues to hold discussions with a group representing day care operators about one of the rules pertaining to what such facilities would do with information they might receive pertaining to someone on the registry if that person is living nearby.

[edit on 8-9-2006 by Vitchilo]

Ok already. Ha ha ha.
That's what you want right? People to laugh at you? This whole schtick was funny for a while, but you can stop now. It's really lost it's humor.
Now I admit I did help in perpetuating this longer than it should have been, but now, it's just old...
lol, anyone still believing in the Titor story should see a shrink immediately as you have some serious issues
Fortunately, that's no one on this board (I don't think. I hope not!). We've just been humoring you all. Right?


Anyway, who's next after the September 12th guy?

Oh come on now ThatsJustWeird, Ye Have Little Faith..... Is there not a larger wedge in your Bill of Rights now.
I guess you take the President words "we're safer" for granted.

So you claim to be the instigator lol.... more the antagonist.
I think TJW, deep down inside you held on to this thread and the others in hope that Titor is real. Come now admit it, do not say you was pushing the thread..... You was really just pushing for your own answers. And now it seems you are wholly convinced in your own beliefs.

"serious issues" ....... serious TJW, move out to the country for a few years, you will get your answers there.

How will it ever get old? The whole Titor thing is moving between past and future. Right?